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Help with using a s+ kit in a s2000
« on: February 10, 2023, 09:02:21 AM »
I have a S2000 machine and I want to convert to a 2 coin Red White & Blue. From what I understand, IGT didn't make RWB 2 coin for the S2000, so I need to use a s+, ss reel chip.

In the how to guide, How to use IGT S+ game kits in an IGT S2000, it says
 
You need a S2000 base chip SB001000.

I have a SB100055. Just to make sure, that won't work, and I'll need to buy a SB001000?

"A 27C64 at 120ns (or faster) will work with older S2000 GMEs that are 4 meg."
"A 27C64 at 100ns (or faster) will work with newer S2000 GMEs that are 8 meg."

How do I determine whether the GME is 4 or 8 meg?

And does anyone know whether these 2 coin RW&B chips were made at 120ns-100ns or where I can get them? I'd like the 2 coin and some of these chips because because the odds of hitting the top award are 1 in 32,768, instead of the others at 1 in 131,072 to 262,144.

SS4089

SS6624

SS3284

SS4625

SS3285

SS3286

SS7250

SS3287

SS0244

SS7883

SS3288

SS3849
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Re: Help with using a s+ kit in a s2000
« Reply #1 on: February 10, 2023, 09:10:29 AM »
There is a 2C RWB SB chip for S2000. There are many varieties of RWB, including Double, Triple, Wild Star, etc. SB100055 is DRWB 3C.
Post a picture of the award glass and I can send you the correct chip.
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Re: Help with using a s+ kit in a s2000
« Reply #2 on: February 10, 2023, 09:15:10 AM »
SB100293 2CM RWB.  I have a complete kit.  S+ strips may be different than S2000 strips. PM if interested.

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Re: Help with using a s+ kit in a s2000
« Reply #3 on: February 10, 2023, 10:10:44 AM »

I'm sorry, I'm a complete noob with this. My machine is currently a 3 coin Double RW&B, and I want to convert to the original RWB at 2 coin.
The only reason I'm doing the conversion is some of those 2 coin RWB have 1 in 32000 jackpot odds. I want those odds more than anything.
If I can set that in a s2000 chip with  (Stops) 64 (Top Award Hits/Cycle) 8, I'd love to buy it. Or otherwise any of the Splus chips listed if you have them.


Thanks, SixCardMark, but I've ordered the glass and reel strips from AZSLOT and, RB, it was by phone, so I don't have a picture of it, but the award is 1000 for the top and 500 for the second.

Thanks RB and SixCardMark
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Re: Help with using a s+ kit in a s2000
« Reply #4 on: February 10, 2023, 11:04:03 AM »
Hi - I can't answer your S2000 questions, but as it pertains to your question pertaining to the  S+ chip sets and if they came in 100 or 120ns.
Given that the S+ was last made in the late 80's (a few in the early 90's)  most are 40yrs + now and the original chips were not that fast.

SO.... The easiest answer is to burn the desired binary onto the chip size/speed of your choice.
You can get an original game kit - this means your legally buying the game and not copying or infringing on anyones copyright.
A game kit is Glass/Strips and Eproms.

You read the original chip into a binary file using a Eprom reader/writer, then you write it back out to a faster chip.

To that point 27C64 chips are almost nonexistant and tend to be on the slower side.
Even the 27c256 chips are pretty much obsolete - in that they are not being made anymore.
The good news is that there is lots of NOS (New old stock) around and you can also use 27c512 (just a larger chip).
https://www.mouser.com/c/?q=AT27C256R-70PU
https://www.mouser.com/c/semiconductors/memory-ics/eprom/?q=AT27C512

Most are in the 70ns speed (The lower the number the faster the chip) and no harm in being faster.

To use a larger chip what people do is take the 64K binary, and write it 4 times consecutively to the 256k chip (or 8x with the 512k chip).
When your writing the burner writes from the bottom up, while the machine will read from the top down. So your choices are to write with an Offset so the data is higher up in the chip or to simply stack it (write the same code 4x times) and not worry about complicated offsets.

If your not up to this a reputable member like SixCardMark cand probably provide you the eproms at the right speed.
Just thought you would like the info.





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Re: Help with using a s+ kit in a s2000
« Reply #5 on: February 10, 2023, 11:18:17 AM »
Hi - I can't answer your S2000 questions, but as it pertains to your question pertaining to the  S+ chip sets and if they came in 100 or 120ns.
Given that the S+ was last made in the late 80's (a few in the early 90's)  most are 40yrs + now and the original chips were not that fast.

SO.... The easiest answer is to burn the desired binary onto the chip size/speed of your choice.
You can get an original game kit - this means your legally buying the game and not copying or infringing on anyones copyright.
A game kit is Glass/Strips and Eproms.

You read the original chip into a binary file using a Eprom reader/writer, then you write it back out to a faster chip.

To that point 27C64 chips are almost nonexistant and tend to be on the slower side.
Even the 27c256 chips are pretty much obsolete - in that they are not being made anymore.
The good news is that there is lots of NOS (New old stock) around and you can also use 27c512 (just a larger chip).
https://www.mouser.com/c/?q=AT27C256R-70PU
https://www.mouser.com/c/semiconductors/memory-ics/eprom/?q=AT27C512

Most are in the 70ns speed (The lower the number the faster the chip) and no harm in being faster.

To use a larger chip what people do is take the 64K binary, and write it 4 times consecutively to the 256k chip (or 8x with the 512k chip).
When your writing the burner writes from the bottom up, while the machine will read from the top down. So your choices are to write with an Offset so the data is higher up in the chip or to simply stack it (write the same code 4x times) and not worry about complicated offsets.

If your not up to this a reputable member like SixCardMark cand probably provide you the eproms at the right speed.
Just thought you would like the info.

Thanks, Jay, I really appreciate that information.
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Re: Help with using a s+ kit in a s2000
« Reply #6 on: February 10, 2023, 11:37:29 AM »
 I think I'll buy that whole kit that SixCardMark is offering. PM sent
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