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Title: Alpha pro mpu engine differences/upgrades
Post by: Hertz14 on February 12, 2023, 11:01:36 AM
I’ve searched some for a thread that states the differences between the 2.0, 2.1 and 2.4 engines and am coming up short.

The main reason I have for the question- I currently have a 2.0 with 4gb, soon to be 8. Besides that, what else can I do to upgrade this engine? I have a quadro 2000 vid card on it as well. Is there any way to upgrade this box to a 2.1? Or get close? I was told that it also is not possible to run Argos on a 2.0.

I’m learning as I go on this unit and it’s very cool the changes that were made from the alpha to the A2 platform. I’ve also gathered a lot of info on some threads regarding the use of usb loading (which I am still not successful at - and yes logic doors open and switches working) I am able to load games using the cf method.

Some of you guys know these in and out, what do I need to know? Any pointers or things you’ve learned along the way that you wished you knew earlier?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Alpha pro mpu engine differences/upgrades
Post by: idesign on February 12, 2023, 11:13:53 AM
There is no way to upgrade a 2.0 to a 2.1 or a 2.4  Just like there is no way to upgrade a 2.1 to a 2.4.  They all use different Bios too, and they are not interchangeable between CPUs.  Argos will run on a 2.1 or a 2.4 with the correct bios. 
Title: Re: Alpha pro mpu engine differences/upgrades
Post by: Hertz14 on February 12, 2023, 11:15:35 AM
There is no way to upgrade a 2.0 to a 2.1 or a 2.4  Just like there is no way to upgrade a 2.1 to a 2.4.  They all use different Bios too, and they are not interchangeable between CPUs.  Argos will run on a 2.1 or a 2.4 with the correct bios.

That answers that-

So ram and vid card are pretty much the extent of making changes?
Title: Re: Alpha pro mpu engine differences/upgrades
Post by: idesign on February 12, 2023, 11:23:49 AM

That answers that-

So ram and vid card are pretty much the extent of making changes?

That's about all you can do.  Not even sure what the advantage is to 8gb ram in a 2.0.  The K2000 is a good video card choice though.

The 2.0 does have a nasty history of spontaneous failure where it will boot up to a certain point and then reboot, constantly.  I hear it can be repaired but it's costly, but considering what the CPUs currently sell for it's still cheaper than a replacement.
Title: Re: Alpha pro mpu engine differences/upgrades
Post by: Hertz14 on February 12, 2023, 11:27:50 AM
Well it looks like I’ll be in the market for a 2.1 in the future then. 2.4s have gone up so much in price, it’s hard to justify.

I’ll play with this one for a while and see if a 2.1 comes along.
Title: Re: Alpha pro mpu engine differences/upgrades
Post by: coolwavepic on February 12, 2023, 12:15:05 PM
The 2.0 CPU is fine unless you get a great deal on a 2.1. I have both and while the 2.1 is faster to some extent, I can still run the 360 (Wonka, Monopoly, Dragon Spin) with no issues on the 2.0. Only issue I see sometimes is the coin show stutters a little. But that may be poor programming and optimazation by the programmers of that game. Firelink runs fine but the Fireball Animation in the denom select screen lags on a 2.0... but once playing the game, its fine... weird huh?
Title: Re: Alpha pro mpu engine differences/upgrades
Post by: omegas_dano on February 19, 2024, 07:41:59 AM
There is no way to upgrade a 2.0 to a 2.1 or a 2.4  Just like there is no way to upgrade a 2.1 to a 2.4.  They all use different Bios too, and they are not interchangeable between CPUs.  Argos will run on a 2.1 or a 2.4 with the correct bios.


Has different motherboard too
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