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**Reel Slots** Gaming Machines => IGT S2000 and Vision Games => Topic started by: filounet on June 19, 2021, 10:35:53 PM
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Hello,
I just bought an IGT the Pink Panther slot.
Model number 96433600 is written on the identification plate.
I have had and repaired many electromechanical or electronic e-series machines from Bally, but never any IGT and none as recent as this one either.
The machine turns on and nothing happens when I try to put a token in the coin comparator, I noticed on the card that there are two piles present, a green one of 3.6v which announces 3.8 v and another plate which is 0.8v for 3v.
The screen on the top of the machine is not functional either, nor do I know how this part of the machine opens.
Can you tell me what I need to do first to test and restart this machine?
Any advice will be welcome because I am new to this type of machine
Protect yourself well
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I changed the 3v battery but still nothing at the level of the machine, here are some pictures of the slot, thank you for your precious advice
Does anyone have the same machine to make sure I am not missing anything on the CPU?
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Open the door, turn OFF the power switch.
Lift up slightly on the chrome player tracking plate from the bottom slot above the door.
Once you get the chrome plate off, gently lift up on the glass and it will come up above the metal tabs holding the glass in place....be careful here.
There is a knob on the left side of the LCD display.
Pull out and the LCD will swing out towards you.
Take a photo of the harnesses connecting to it from the back wall inside the topbox to the LCD.
We will be able to get your machine running.
Right now it looks like you don't have anything on the reel glass blue VFD display panel showing anything.
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Thank you for your feedback and your time, here are the pictures
Protect yourself and your loved ones well
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The continuation and end thank you
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1st problem I see is your I/O board is NOT connected. I highlighted it in the picture. the harness probably fell behind the hopper. Connect that back and see if there is anymore problems.
Chris
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Here is a pic of what the harness looks like
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1st problem I see is your I/O board is NOT connected. I highlighted it in the picture. the harness probably fell behind the hopper. Connect that back and see if there is anymore problems.
Chris
That harness is only needed if you have backlit reels. That machine does not have backlit reels. It does have backlit strips though. EDIT: after seeing more pics it does not have backlit strips either.
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I confirm that this connection cable is not present in the machine :Scratch-Head:
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I confirm that this connection cable is not present in the machine :Scratch-Head:
sorry all of mine are backlit including my vision
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It is by seeking that we find and all advice is good to take :hail:, thank you for your help :thank_you:
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Great to see the top glass. :drool04: I have that same kit but my top glass is wrong.
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That is different glass than I have seen. Great that it is 5 coin top glass also. I would check the power supply behind the reels. Sometimes during transport it will slide to the left and unplug some. No displays point me there. Where are you located? Someone might be close by.
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That game is AWESOME! When I looked it up, I could only find 1 video (the rest were some awful video slot with rockets).
How many of the short video are there?
Does any one have a video of what happens when the Panther makes it down the ladder?
I look forward to seeing it running real soon. If anyone can get it going its the guys on this forum.
Best of luck.
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I like the sizes you used in your photos....that's what I do....excellent!
Okay, I circled in yellow one of your photos of the back of the LCD monitor.
The connection is the netplex and power Molex.
The orange, black, and red wires are the power wires while the green ones are for the Netplex communication between the topbox LCD and the machine's MPU below.
There's actually two types of COM...the other being the the other smaller Molex connection with the three grey/black/yellow and white wires but our main concern is the power wires to the LCD.
Can you follow this harness to the back of the topbox?
The other end should be plugged into what is called the "Power Distribution board"....basically it's a small circuit board that acts like a power strip for various power or Netplex connections....check to see if it's plugged in.
Also, check to see if that small circuit board has a short similar colored harness that goes towards the left down into another plug that runs down to the bottom of the machine on the backplane board.
I don't know if you have a multimeter or know how to use to use one...but it would be a lot easier to just undo the Netplexharness Molex from the LCD and stick the probes into the Molex and see what voltages are coming out of them.
Offhand, without me going into any shchematics or drawings and not being near a machine at the moment, I think the orange wire and ground will give you 24-25 volts, the red wire and ground will shoot out 12volts.
I don't like how tight that orange wire is comming out of the harness on the LCD.
If you were to remove the back cover, you would see four wires running to the back of the circuit board inside that runs to a Molex header that is EXACLY like a power connector on a 1990's desktop computer.
That plug I actually use to test LCD monitors with a desktop computer power supply!
Also, if there's a jumper across upon the two pins behind the RAM memory cards next to the leftside LCD fluorescent invertor board, you will see everything pop up on the screen during boot up!
There's also a battery inside the LCD that needs to be checked on the LCD computer board as well..it's one of those coin cell batteries and should be over 3 volts.
I DO have a question..history...do you ever see this LCD come on?
If your zip code is too far from mine @ 12910, maybe I could troubleshoot it for you on one of my Visions...or a member closer to you could look at it for ya?
One way or another, we'll get this puppy up and running for ya...I have the exact same 5 coin Pink Diamonds glass/ strip kit running on the floor at work.
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The ribbon cable under the circled Molex connector looks loose.
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This is like reading a good suspense novel, I really hope you get this machine running, it is absolutely beautiful!
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I agree...and that big heavy coil on it doesnt help one bit!.... :rotfl:
I think that ribbon cable is for emotive light that surrounds the LCD display.
I've never had one of those "surround" lights.
When building Visions, I always got the LCD computers without them.
I don't know if having it disconnected would interfere with the LCD from turning on?
I DO have another question for the owner though....
The topbox glass has a progressive label in the jackpot award window...does the machine have a progressive meter display on top of the topbox?
All I saw in your pics are the candle and fan harnesses.
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Sorry but I did not understand everything, that's a lot of information for my little brain, I will relate it all tomorrow with a rested head.
I live in France near Paris so it might take a long time to meet you and I'm sorry.
At start-up, the LCD screen turns pink and then goes out completely, I did not see a disconnected molex but two wires not connected to the lock for which I unfortunately do not have the key.
I never saw the machine working nor even its LCD screen on, the person who sold it to me had not restarted it for 3 years and he played with it at home knowing that I have known him for many years and trust him completely, thank you for your great help and support for this reboot
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You should remove the green battery. It will cause more harm than good. They are not needed for home use. It will definitely leak and eventually cause major damage.
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That game is AWESOME! When I looked it up, I could only find 1 video (the rest were some awful video slot with rockets).
How many of the short video are there?
Does any one have a video of what happens when the Panther makes it down the ladder?
I look forward to seeing it running real soon. If anyone can get it going its the guys on this forum.
Best of luck.
That is a different game. There are at least 3 different pink panther vision games. (and a I-game)
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That game is AWESOME! When I looked it up, I could only find 1 video (the rest were some awful video slot with rockets).
How many of the short video are there?
Does any one have a video of what happens when the Panther makes it down the ladder?
I look forward to seeing it running real soon. If anyone can get it going its the guys on this forum.
Best of luck.
That is a different game. There are at least 3 different pink panther vision games. (and a I-game)
Interesting, it had the same glass so I figured it was the same game.
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His glass says it is PANTHER BUCKS. Just like Top Dollar.
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OK, we all agree nice game. Now let figure this thing out. Never going to boot until the VFD and Displays light up. I have seen bent pins on a sb keep the VFD from coming on. This is not the case since he has not removed it. The coin battery is not backwards. Follow the harness from the door back to the mother board. Is something not plugged in? Is the door I/O card in place and any good? Has a rodent chewed anything? Any component you check, make sure the machine is off. If you pulled the MPU while it was on, would cause this too.
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Hi,
I opened the back plate on the LCD screen and changed the battery which was dead
I disassembled the CPU board and removed the green battery
I checked the connections and the various cables and saw nothing in particular either in the body or at the door after removing various covers.
I took the voltages which are 24.8v and 13.2v at the Molex, red and orange cables at the back of the screen.
I followed this cable from the Molex to another Molex on the left, it goes back below to the CPU board.
However, I don't think it's plugged into a power distribution board?
I took some photos of the bottom of the boards and connectors to better identify a problem.
Thank you for your help :thank_you:
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Not concerned with the monitor right now. We have to get the displays and vfd working first. That part goes first and waits for the monitor.
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Ok so do I have to do anything in order to continue to find the fault?
Have a good day
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Where's the power supply? There is no ps in that pic you posted
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Yeah, power supply is absent. Should look something like this:
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Post 19 shows his power supply. Now to find out if it is slid to the right and seated or is any good.
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Oh haha, looked through the pics too fast.
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What is up with the picture in post 27. What did you do with the power supply?
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I removed it and put it back in place to be sure that the connector was not damaged and that it went well in its location
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Take a picture of the MPU with the machine on. Need to see the lights on it. My money is on the power supply being bad, or the door I/O card
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Here is the photo
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Do I have to do something?
Thank you :thank_you:
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The VFD is the blue colored "Vacuum Fluorescent Display" on the reel glass....does it display anything at all when the machine is powered up?
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no unfortunately no display
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The wires I've circled in yellow are bothering me
At the moment, I am nowhere near an S2000 machine.
Can anyone verify why he has a red and black wire going into the Molex connector with orange wires and why there's a black and white wire crimped together?
Also, since you're in France, aren't the electrical outlets 220 volts AC ?
Can you tell me if this machine's power supply box was converted from 115 VAC to 220 VAC ?
Click on photo below to enlarge if needed...>>>
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I believe the red and black goes to the bell.
Do you have another power supply you can swap ? Wouldn't hurt to have a spare as well. They are a common issue.
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So the wires coming out of the Molex (red, orange and black wires) go well to the bell
The white-red and black wire that are crimped go to the top left card on the Molex (see photo)
Yes it is an original 220 / 240v power supply
Unfortunately no, I do not have another power supply to interchange it
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Hi,
When I opened the block to check the capacitors, I didn't notice anything in particular
Should we change some as a priority?
Does anyone have the schematic of this box and the information on the capacitors?
Thank you for your invaluable help.
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There's probably nothing wrong with your power supply unit as you've already stated that you have 12 and 24 volts coming out of it.
I don't know why the blue VFD display isn't coming on....maybe it's zapped? I don't know.
Let's see if we can get your LCD to come on.
In the photo you've posted (#2), there's a regular desktop power header coming off the LCD circuit board right under that ribbon cable.
Remember the old XP, Vista desktop computers we use to have?
They had power supplies that had 4 -pin white Molex connectors that had the power coming out to power up desktop MPU's.
They also had different connectors for the hard drive power, and the CD drive power.
Well....this Vision LCD is powered up with those same plugs.
If you got a desktop power plugged in there under the ribbon cable, the jumper on the two pins behind the RAM memory sticks, you would be able to see the LCD boot up.
It would probably halt at some point as it's searching for the SB chip on the machine's MPU as you have have problems with the machine itself but yeah....you could get the LCD to power up all by itself on a bench with just an old desktop power supply.
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I have info and pictures for the Condor supply. I will post in the general forum with the other power supplies when I get a chance.
Tony
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Turn the power off. Remove the MPU and leave it out and turn the power back on. See if the VFD lights up. And is the bill acceptor cycling during power up?
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Shot in the dark but do you have a reset on your power distribution box?
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Hi,
Unfortunately I do not have an old computer power supply but I will try to find one in the week to perform the test even if I admit not having understood where exactly the jumper ?
Regarding the issue of the fuse holder, it is good when I tested it with a multimeter.
Eh concerning the question to turn on the slot by having to remove the CPU, indeed I have two indications which appear for the first time on this screen, see the photos
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If this is without the mpu inserted then the problem is MPU or chip. Normally a bent pin will give a red light on mpu. Check all of the chips.
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There is just a yellow light and a green light on the board
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Did you check the legs on all the chips?
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Remove each chip very slowly and it's orientation....they ONLY go back in with the notch on top of the chip body facing the notch on the chip socket or the imprinted etching on the circuit board itself.
if the legs are straight, the chip may be okay....make note and report which chips are in which socket.
Be certain each leg goes back into every socket hole fully.
Take your time and do things slowly until you get better at it.......this is a hobby - not a job that pays you by how many pieces you make per hour.
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I just removed all the EPROM and they are all visually ok, no broken or bent tabs
They are 32 and 40 pins and I wanted to know if there are the equivalent models at https://fr.rs-online.com/web/
So I will order some in advance if I need to schedule any later
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Hi,
I just got two old computer power supplies but I admit I don't understand or plug it into the LCD screen
I took pictures of the back of the screen as well as of the two power supplies that have different connections
Thank you for your help
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Lets try this. Tell us everything your machine says. Turn on, Display passes self test?? Checking memory??? APP start??? Waiting on video screen??? Tell us everything "In Order" Forget the monitor right now. It is waiting on something from the machine. You said it lights up then goes dark. It is working
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Hi,
Here is a video when switching on it will perhaps be more telling, the turn of the LED screen at the top lights up at start-up then goes out and unfortunately nothing happens at the level of the two screens (the LED and the blue part in the center on the left) of the machine.
The yellow and green buttons are lit on the CPU board
https://youtu.be/jhQLX4gw6wE
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Perhaps you didn't understand. Only the blue vfd screen. Close up so it can be read.
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Hi,
Here is a video when switching on
https://youtu.be/jhQLX4gw6wE
This is helpful, but didn't show long enough to see what happens.
Back in post #49, you had 2 pics of the blue screen showing the boot sequence and messages.
1) Display passed self test
2) Displays Netplex Link is down.
3) ??
Are there more messages or does it stop there?
I could be wrong, but it also looks like the jackpot reset switch wires are not attached to anything?
(maybe these 2 wires go someplace else?)
If you replaced batteries, pulled chips, etc you are going to need these connected and a key to turn the switch several times.
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Open or closed machine the blue screen never works, it shows two different sentences (see my photos) if the CPU card is not installed as I realized at the request of the person of the forum and only these two sentences.
Yes I confirmed that the two wires are not connected I had indicated it from the beginning by asking if they should be connected but unfortunately I do not have the key to the lock even if they were connected.
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We must have a communication problem. If your machine was here in front of me, it would have been fixed within an hour. This is why questions are being asked. At this point I am sure that you need a new mpu. Netplex down is a typical varta battery leakage problem.
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hello,
Here I am again after a little illness and I really want to get this machine running again.
can you tell me what i need to do or buy to get it working again?
I measured the voltages and they are all good compared to the schematic.
Thank you for your help
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Elvis suggested that you go out and get a "known-working" 504 MPU circuit board...that's the main processing board in your machine that holds all the chips.
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Take a picture of your MPU and a close up of the SB and SG chips. Let get to the bottom of this
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Thank you for your feedback and your help :hail: Filounet
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Nice Panther Bucks. I would change the GAME chips to SG000380's. Since you bought it not working lets start there. Someone copied those chips, because having a percentage written on them is wrong. The percentage is controlled in the setup of machine. Check with RB and buy all 3 chips along with vs11gx1. So SG380 game 1&2, SB425, vs11gx1. Hopefully the card in the top monitor has BGM000136. I believe now your problem is with the chips. If you have chips for a non vision game, you can try those to be sure the board is good.
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Hello, thank you for your valuable advice, I will do what you tell me, how and at what address is it possible to contact RB?
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You can find him on the vendor page
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Sorry to bother you but I can't find the RB contact for my chips, I looked on these two locations and I didn't understand, thank you for your help.
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Go to the members page and send message
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Hello, I do have the files in my possession but I am waiting for my new programmer because the old one broke down :duh:, I will not fail to come back to you as soon as I have been able to install the chips
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Hello,
I was finally able to set up my 4 new EPROMs but that doesn't change anything, I still have nothing that appears on the two screens...(the blue line and the top screen)
Do you have another suggestion, thanks for your help :EmoticonHelp4:
Philip
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Turn OFF the power switch and remove the MPU from the tray.
Pull out the hopper too...you do NOT need it to get your machine running.
You can re-install the hopper later on.
You did a test once of pulling out the MPU and turning on the power switch and saw two lines of messages on the blue VFD display.
However, when you put in the MPU, that blue VFD display doesn't display anything.
I think there's something wrong with the MPU...it may not be the chips.
Look under the MPU at all the pins.
Carefully inspect every one of them.
Are ANY of the pins folded down and touching another pin?
If so, that means they are shorted.
You might get away with using a pair of tweezers and try to straighten the bent pin.
If not, then the only hope you have is to get a new MPU circuit board, install the chips onto the MPU and try powering on the machine to see if the blue VFD displays anything.
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Hello,
I checked the pins well and there is no problem on that side, alas.
Indeed the blue screen displays lines without the MPU but with the MPU no more writing and the screen at the top does not display anything either. I am familiar with Bally electronics but this is my first IGT, do some PCBs need to be changed over time on IGT CPU boards?
If I have to change my CPU board, are there several board references for this slot?
Thanks for your help Phillip
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There is just a yellow light and a green light on the board
Yes, but this does not mean the red Led is burned out.
Your VFD display only comes on when the MPU is removed.
Now we know there's nothing wrong with the blue VFD display.
This is pinpointing a problem with the MPU.
Can you try this problem MPU in another machine cabinet?
If not, place a WTB ad in the Classifieds section of NLG for an 502 or 504 MPU.
Switch the Base chip, the pair of SG chips, and the Version chip onto the new MPU board when it comes in.
As you carefully install them into the chip sockets, make sure they are in the correct orientation (direction) and you do NOT fold any pin legs underneath the chip body.
I really wish I knew why your blue VFD display doesn't work when you put this MPU in.
I've never had this problem and I don't know what is causing the machine to halt.
When I turn on the power switch, I always see in this order...>>>
"Display Passes Self-Test"
"Please Wait...Testing Memory"
"Waiting For The Video Display"
By any chance did you happen to check the voltage on the MPU coin cell?
Is it above 3 volts?
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So the voltage is 3 volts. I have to find a functional card knowing that I live in France. Thanks for your help Philip
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I am very confused. What card are you referring to? The battery is on the mpu. Only other is I/O card for door and cabinet. Your vfd works without the mpu. Probably bad mpu
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Why are you confused?
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I also noticed that not everything lights up at the door when the machine is on.
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I have to find a functional card...
I think therockinelvis may be confused because you called the MPU in an S2000, a "card".
The MPU is a "circuit board"... do you guys in France call circuit boards "cards"?
Over here on NLG, when someone mentions "cards" in an IGT S2000, they're using referring to the I/O cards on the door, or the other one on the right-hand side of the MPU enclosure.
Don't worry so much about the fluorescent lighting right now...let's get your machine working first.
I need to ask you....when you pull out the MPU with the power OFF, we know the blue VFD display displays two lines of information....does the red LED display on the right side of the reel glass display anything at all?? :scratch-head_3: :scratch-head_2:
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If it's the part circled in red in the photo, it's not on.
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Check the top two fuses on the power supply supply.
One of them might be burned out.
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Hello, alas they are good and the output voltages also correspond so no worries on that side.
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It's easy for me to swap parts as I have access to more than a single machine to work with.
Someone like you that only has a single cabinet and very limited parts makes it hard to figure out exactly what to recommend.
I don't want you spending lots of money buying parts.
However, any homeowner of a slot machine SHOULD have at least an extra MPU.
It's like having a spare battery, but unfortunately, a lot more expensive.
Spare parts every S2000 slot owner should have...>>>
Batteries...change to newer flat coin cells if possible.
Door optics...emitter & receiver.
Door I/O cards...inner & outer.
Button Lamps, candle lamps, fluorescent display lamps & ballasts.
There's more parts I could recommend for more advanced slot owners but above is pretty basic.
Anything that pretty much contains a bulb, filament, or fuse doesn't last that long due to the machines being turned OFF & ON all the time - in an home environment.
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Hello,
And a very happy new year 2023 to all.
So on your very good advice, I ordered a functional card in theory on ebay
I just received it with a very very long wait in customs ☹
When installing it, it gives me this flashing message Call attendant and RAM ERROR, the top light is on and the card now has more LEDs too
Thank you for your always precious help.
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Open door and flick jackpot key until it says to push test button for 3 seconds then close door.
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Hello, I don't see a key when opening the door so I turned the exterior key several times and I got this message to press the test button for 2/3 seconds and so I pressed the only button at the map on the bottom left and I now have programming messages showing up?
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With the door open and machine on, turn the jackpot key 4 times. Display should say press test button for 4 seconds. Do that it is the one on the front of the MPU. Display will say close door and it should start booting
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Sounds like you are getting close, Phil.
Keep the faith!
Tater
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I'm getting closer I hope to the truth but it's only thanks to you 😊
I suck at IGT and it's sad because I've had a lot of Bally's before but this is my only IGT
So the machine plays well, collects the coins well, allows me to play, the sound is TOP, the light around the screen also works very well but unfortunately I don't have the video of the animation that appears on the screen…
Do you have any good advice for me?
Many thanks in advance
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Well, alas, all is not so well.
I have a Cloture M message and sometimes door open with TILT also despite it being closed but I have the impression that the problem comes from the small connector present on the door and on the machine.
The reels start spinning endlessly...
When I press hard on the door it starts again but it does not last, I assume that this is also a tilt or a system against cheaters
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The reels turning slowly is a reel tilt. Open door turn key they will stop. Close door and they should finish last spin. Next is the monitor lighting up saying please wait? If machine is playing just no video it is most likely the pl520 inverter board on the side of monitor. You can shine a flash light sideways on screen and see the video
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With the photos of the connectors of the door and in the machine
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I can clearly see 3 cards in place on the screen, which card needs to be changed?
Indeed with a light on the side I can see the scrolled images well but it is very little visible
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With the monitor cover off, far left outside of case is the pl520 inverter. 1 inch by 5 inches. Look outside the fan. Has 3 small plugs
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Search eBay for pl520 inverter
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It's this board....it lights up the tubes inside the screen.
Here's one for sale on ebay...>>>
https://www.ebay.com/itm/195547733439? (https://www.ebay.com/itm/195547733439?)
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Oops my mistake ls520 so sorry
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Hello, thank you all for your help and your precious answers :hail:, I will order it today.
I had trouble finding this card with this reference but I understand better now :I_agree_1:
I have not yet seen where it is or what to disassemble to access it in the end for the moment
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I found and I ordered thank you all and have a nice day :thank_you:
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I can't believe I don't have a picture of installed inverter. However, if you look at this picture you will see circled JP1. Place a jumper on it so when monitor is booting you see what stage it is in. Just above JP1 is a small ribbon cable that goes outside the case to the inverter. 2 Phillips screws and 3 mini plugs. Hope this helps. At least you can play the game now. If you enter the bonus no big deal. I think pressing the spin button declines offer and pressing the max bet accepts offer. You get 4 offers. The last one you have to take
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better picture. Click on image to enlarge
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Thank you for your great help, here is the photo of the board in my machine, I hope to receive a new board soon to make it work normally :dancing_2:
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I have save your picture for future help to others.
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Hi,
I'm finally back after some health problems and as all is well I'm going to resume the post where I stopped, namely the change of the card to have the images from the LCD screen, the small board is now changed and I finally access the images, however I have new error messages that I didn't have before ☹
I obviously replaced the two button batteries on the MPU and on the video card that I had removed during my absence.
As a reminder, I have already repaired and completely restored many Bally machines but this IGT is my first and unfortunately I therefore have no spare parts to carry out tests if necessary.
The error messages are as follows:
• CALL ATTENDANT
• General Reel TILT
• CLOSURE M
Sometimes the MPU lights are on and sometimes they are off
Thank you for your valuable help and any advice you can give me to finally get this machine working again.
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We need to see a picture of your bill acceptor.
A general reel tilt message is showing.
If the reels are slowly turning, open the door and turn the key once to stop the reels.
Then close the door and tell us what you see on the VFD display.
Your anniversary is coming up.
You've been working on this Vision machine since June of 2021 ??
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Indeed, I had to leave the slot machines and everything else for several months but now things are better so I'm picking up where I left off with the Pink Panther.
So the rollers do not rotate at all and I have the following different error messages
I took several photos and tell me if I need to take more?
The MPU card is lit with only the top lamp in orange
Thanks a lot
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La suite
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"Bill Validator Hardware Error".... you have an IBA4 bill acceptor.
I believe that was called an "International Bill Acceptor" made by JCM (Japan Cash Machine) and from the label, I can see that it was made in December of 2004....sooo...that thing is going on 20 years old now.
Unfortunately, I have never seen one of those as I'm in the United States.
I'm sure someone has some info relating to that model but also, that is pretty old too.
I will try to dig around and see what I can find on that BV.
For now, try doing the simple things such as re-seating the cash box and opening & closing the main door a few times.
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It works perfectly, I moved the door contact by 3 millimeters and it works perfectly, thank you for your help
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It's all working now?
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Now I'm just looking for how to reduce the sound of the pink panther video? Thank you for your help
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Open the door, press the little white Test button on the power switch box...it might be behind it too?
Then watching your LCD screen in the Menus, that would be in the "LCD Volume" as you scroll thru the pages.