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Title: IGT Vision Tripple Diamond
Post by: Painkiller2014 on February 15, 2015, 05:34:52 PM
Hello i am from Austria and i have a problem
 
I have a Igt Vision Machine Tripple Diamond  but the Machine does not work on the Display stand  Ram Error and after that Game Eprom CRC Mismatch ??
 
Can you help me or say me what ist he problem ??
 
Greetings 
Title: Re: IGT Vision Tripple Diamond
Post by: qbert on February 15, 2015, 06:30:57 PM
When the machine gets to CRC mismatch you will need to turn the jackpot key on the side of the machine. it should then change error message, turn the key again do this two more times and the display should then read "press test swirtch for 2-3 seconds"
Push the test switch in and hold (more like five seconds) until the display reads "close main door" Close the main door and if the display goes to the 7 series of numbers you should follow this link for more help (or post back here).
At some point you will probably need a key chip if you don't have one already.
http://newlifegames.com/nlg/index.php?topic=2115.0 (http://newlifegames.com/nlg/index.php?topic=2115.0)
 
 :NLG_WELCOME:

Rich
Title: Re: IGT Vision Tripple Diamond
Post by: RB on February 15, 2015, 06:55:32 PM
Are you sure this is a Vision? It has a Vision base chip in combo with a SS chip. That combo will not work. No matter how many times you clear the error, it will repeat. Please post a pic of the entire machine.
Title: Re: IGT Vision Tripple Diamond
Post by: Painkiller2014 on February 16, 2015, 06:31:51 AM
Yes i am sure that its a IGT Vision MAchine
I have write with another guy he say the same.That the SS not for IGT Vsion is
I have buy a Sg00380 1+2 and a SB0000060 for the Machine but nothing works no reaction
With the other Chips the Machine is running and then Comes the Error

Title: Re: IGT Vision Tripple Diamond
Post by: RB on February 16, 2015, 07:21:47 AM
Sounds like you are on the right track now. Good luck !
Title: Re: IGT Vision Tripple Diamond
Post by: Painkiller2014 on February 16, 2015, 08:00:11 AM
But i dont understand with the SB0000060 and Sg00380 there is no reaction on the machine
The Yellow LEDS not flashing and no reaction in The Display
And with the wrong Eproms and ss Chips the machine Show the Errors?
Title: Re: IGT Vision Tripple Diamond
Post by: Painkiller2014 on February 16, 2015, 08:02:57 AM
I have try it with the IVC 97 to clear the Ram there is also no reaction
And with the Key 17 Chip ist the same
Title: Re: IGT Vision Tripple Diamond
Post by: qbert on February 16, 2015, 08:54:06 AM
Please post a picture of the mpu with the sg380 and sb00060 installed on your board.
Title: Re: IGT Vision Tripple Diamond
Post by: Painkiller2014 on February 16, 2015, 09:18:51 AM
Here the Photo
Title: Re: IGT Vision Tripple Diamond
Post by: qbert on February 16, 2015, 12:44:32 PM
Looks like everything is correct. From my cellphone pictures I can't tell if u44  is installed one pin off.
Probably not just the angle of the photo.

I am not sure RB can you help. Should the SB be 000060 or 100060.

Rich
Title: Re: IGT Vision Tripple Diamond
Post by: RB on February 16, 2015, 02:20:40 PM
SB000060 is Triple Diamond Deluxe Bonus Wheel 3CM. I show SB000037 for Triple Diamond Bonus Wheel. Not sure if that's 2 or 3CM.
Title: Re: IGT Vision Tripple Diamond
Post by: therockinelvis on February 16, 2015, 02:53:20 PM
Check your chips. Maybe a bent leg since nothing is displayed. Also ALL my visions with 380 mains have a version vs0011GX1. I see yours is different. Is this machine new to you? Have you seen it play before? The version chip is not making it show nothing. It has to be a bent leg or someone burned the chips wrong. I suspect the machine was set up as a regular trip. diamond and not using the monitor at all. You need to check the monitor to see if it has the Data Card in it and what ATA BGM it has.
Title: Re: IGT Vision Tripple Diamond
Post by: CVslots on February 16, 2015, 03:33:37 PM
SB000060 is Triple Diamond Deluxe Bonus Wheel 3CM. I show SB000037 for Triple Diamond Bonus Wheel. Not sure if that's 2 or 3CM.

Yep, and with his glass not showing any Bonus at all, he can't use either of those. We just got some goofy Trip Diamond Deluxe machines like that. The monitor did nothing, simply displayed"Good Luck". Game played fine with an SS, but used SB000001....not the usual SB001000 we typically see paired with an SS chip.

Software:
SB000001
SS6284 or SS6285
SG000236
VS009GX0
Title: Re: IGT Vision Tripple Diamond
Post by: therockinelvis on February 16, 2015, 05:53:23 PM
Ros is absolutely right. With the sparkle reel strips there is no bonus spot either. And with this vision list there is no triple diamond vision only triple cash windfall

Thanks to IDESIGN for this list.

VISION GAMES

  American in Paris
 Balloon Bars
 Baseball Diamond
 Big Wheel Bonus
 Bonus Select (Hook Line & Winner etc.)
 Bonus Spin Wild Star Red White & Blue
 Cash Advance
 Cleopatra 3-Reel
 Cleopatra 5-Reel
 Diamond Jewel Thief
 Diamond Mine
 Dick Clark’s New Year’Rockin’ Eve
 Double Diamond Run 3-Reel
 Double Diamond Run 5-Reel
 Double Ringer
 Fox ‘N’ Hound
 French Dough
 Good Times
 Globe Shopping
 Heartbreaker
 Kool Kat
 Mata Hari 3-Reel
 Mata Hari 5-Reel
Match Reel Bonus
 Money Maze
 Money Machine
 Ms. Little Green Men 3-Reel
 Ms. Little Green Men 5-Reel
 Munster Match
 Mystery Multiplier
 Neptune’s Treasure
 Net Pay
 Nothing to Lose
 Palio Pix
 Panther Bucks
 Payroll
 Pick a Panther
 Pinball
 Pink Slip
 Quest
 Racing 7’s
 Random Pay
 Rue De Riches                          Triple Cash Windfall
 Run For Your Money                 Two Ways to Win
 Sea Treasure                             Wild Cherry Bonus Pie
 Shooting Gallery                         Wild Cherry Double Pie
 Slingo                                          Wild Cherry Pie
 Slot Bingo                                     Wine Cellar
 Star Gazer
 Tee Time
 Tour de Slots
Title: Re: IGT Vision Tripple Diamond
Post by: Painkiller2014 on February 20, 2015, 01:57:01 PM
Whit this Chips the Machine was running and the Big Display also running !!
And than Comes the Error Ram Error
Title: Re: IGT Vision Tripple Diamond
Post by: idesign on February 20, 2015, 03:21:54 PM
Actually, there is a Triple Diamond vision game, it's Triple Diamond Deluxe Bonus Wheel.  That list includes all the Big Wheel bonus games which includes Double Diamond Deluxe and Triple Diamond Deluxe.
Title: Re: IGT Vision Tripple Diamond
Post by: Painkiller2014 on February 20, 2015, 04:53:43 PM
And what can i do?
Any ideas?
Maybe ist the Problem that the Machine have Credits on it?
Title: Re: IGT Vision Tripple Diamond
Post by: qbert on February 20, 2015, 06:36:24 PM
I think we got off track here.
my first question is to painkiller:
  Did this machine play properly at any time with the big wheel bonus on the video screen using the chip set from your first post? (the SS 4787 chip with the SB000001)
If the answer is yes then we have to attack this problem differently.
 
I am assuming it is a big wheel bonus game as that is the only vision machine that uses a Double Diamond or Triple Diamond theme.
For what it's worth a friend of mine has a Double Diamond Big Wheel vision that uses
SB000016
SG000159
VS0091x0
My question to everyone else is do any of you know where to look at a Big Bonus wheel Triple Diamond theme to help painkiller out?
 
Rich
Title: Re: IGT Vision Tripple Diamond
Post by: idesign on February 20, 2015, 06:56:16 PM
Roz is correct...............No way this machine he has is a TD Deluxe Bonus Wheel. The glass and strips are all wrong.  What he has is a Triple Diamond machine with a vision screen in it.  The vision screen will not display any kind of bonus.   It will have a card in it that will cycle between GOOD LUCK and some other messages.  I've seen these kind of machine before in AC some time ago.  The screen was used to display all kinds of messages using vision builder software.
Title: Re: IGT Vision Tripple Diamond
Post by: CVslots on February 20, 2015, 10:22:17 PM
Roz is correct...............No way this machine he has is a TD Deluxe Bonus Wheel. The glass and strips are all wrong.  What he has is a Triple Diamond machine with a vision screen in it.  The vision screen will not display any kind of bonus.   It will have a card in it that will cycle between GOOD LUCK and some other messages.  I've seen these kind of machine before in AC some time ago.  The screen was used to display all kinds of messages using vision builder software.

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Title: Re: IGT Vision Tripple Diamond
Post by: Painkiller2014 on February 21, 2015, 06:09:22 AM
With this Board and The Chips from the Photo the Machine was still running !!!!
Also the Display the Display schow the Weels an runs!!!
Than come the Ram Error and i dont know maybe that was Credits on the Machine
Title: Re: IGT Vision Tripple Diamond
Post by: Painkiller2014 on February 21, 2015, 06:15:16 AM
There was no Bonus Reel or something the Same Picture as on the Rollers was in the Display
I have Play with my Doughter and than Comes the Tilt
Title: Re: IGT Vision Tripple Diamond
Post by: qbert on February 21, 2015, 06:58:32 AM
OK guys so we know it is just a regular DD, the display would show the same thing as the reels when playing and it worked just fine with the ss chip combination that was originally pictured so lets stop patting ourselves on the back on how good we are and help get this machine up and running.
 
Would a bad top box battery do this? I only have experience with reel touch machines so I'm a little blind here.
I know reel touch has some ram chips in the top box that need to have the contacts cleaned up some time to bring it back to life.
I have never seen the ram chips on the MPU go bad other than physical breakage from bad handling so I don't think that is the problem.
Where do we go from here?
 
Rich
Title: Re: IGT Vision Tripple Diamond
Post by: therockinelvis on February 21, 2015, 06:32:47 PM
This may sound very dumb, but I have had people do this. When you turn the key and it tells you to push test button, are you pushing the little white button on the front of the circuit board tray? I have had people say they were pushing the button when they were pushing the large cherry switch that turns the inside light on and off. Are you getting to the point where it says push button? Does it then say close main door? Anything after that? Take a video and post it so we can see what steps you are taking. This is normally a very simple procedure. Confusion does happen. We want your machine fixed as much as you do.
Title: Re: IGT Vision Tripple Diamond
Post by: Painkiller2014 on February 25, 2015, 10:15:07 AM
Ther is no reaction ore that the Display says push the Diagnose Button.
I turn the machine one she says Ram Test after that she write Ram Error Crc Game Eprom Mismatch  and then turn the Key some ctitical Data will be lost
And than Start the Machine new and the same beginns 
Title: Re: IGT Vision Tripple Diamond
Post by: qbert on February 25, 2015, 10:42:16 AM
When you get some critical data etc. You must turn the key again then when the next msg comes on the display turn the key again. Keep doing this until the display says press the button for 3 seconds. Hold the button for about 6 seconds close the door and then it should reboot on it's own.

Tell us what happens after doing the above.
Title: Re: IGT Vision Tripple Diamond
Post by: therockinelvis on February 25, 2015, 11:30:52 AM
Like Qbert said. Turn the key several times until the display say's push test button for 3 seconds. The display will then tell you to close the door
Title: Re: IGT Vision Tripple Diamond
Post by: Painkiller2014 on February 26, 2015, 07:46:36 AM
Hey guys the Machine is running!!!!
After 300 Times Reset with the Key the machine is still alive!!!!
I must make a Setup does anyone have a instruction for the Vision machine?
Stand allone with coins and notes .
I have see the Monitor write good luck but as the machine was running the Monitor Show the same Pictures like the reels ??
I have a Instruction from the Casino but i dont know it is the reight one
Can anybody help me or send me a instruction??
Thansk a lot !!
Greetings
Title: Re: IGT Vision Tripple Diamond
Post by: qbert on February 26, 2015, 08:44:34 AM
Open the link on the first post I put on this string.
When you open that link there should be a PDF file explaining the set up after a clear.
Let me know if you can get to that PDF and see if that will help.
Almost there now glad you got it going.
Rich
Title: Re: IGT Vision Tripple Diamond
Post by: qbert on February 26, 2015, 09:03:03 AM
Most of the instructions you have look good, but if you have coins and hopper you must change 7.1.5.2 from coinless mode "enabled" to coinless mode "disabled" to be able to use coins. You will need your key chip to change this and remember there must be zero credits on the machine for the key chip to work properly.
Also you will need to change the hopper limit from 0 to a larger number like 800.

Let us know how things go.
Rich
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Title: Re: IGT Vision Tripple Diamond
Post by: Painkiller2014 on February 26, 2015, 09:08:19 AM
Ok thanks
Key Chip is the Key 17??Right??
Do you know what i must adjust that the Monitor  Show the same Picture like the Reels?
Is the Setup from you the same like the s2000?

 
Title: Re: IGT Vision Tripple Diamond
Post by: qbert on February 26, 2015, 09:17:38 AM
Key 17 should work. Standard S2000 set up should work.
I have limited experience with vision machines so others here my have to take over. I would think if you have all of the original chips installed it should just come up and start working on the vision monitor. I do not know of any special settings that you must change to make the monitor display the wheels.

Rich
Title: Re: IGT Vision Tripple Diamond
Post by: therockinelvis on February 26, 2015, 10:47:57 AM
Remember you have to have zero credits to set up the machine. When you get to "Limits" set high like 9000 and BV to 3000, set your denomination and turn on/off hopper, printer. If your machine played "Good Luck" and showed the reels spinning before then it will again, which must be the reason you have a different SB chip than usual. I will have to go back to the beginning of this post and write that # down for future reference. Great you got it. We're going to miss your posts. haha If your able, I would like to know what files are on your monitor card. It should have "ATA" "BGM" numbers on card in top slot
Title: Re: IGT Vision Tripple Diamond
Post by: Painkiller2014 on February 27, 2015, 07:39:44 AM
Here the Fotos from My Flash Card
Title: Re: IGT Vision Tripple Diamond
Post by: qbert on February 27, 2015, 08:02:55 AM
Were you able to key the machine?
What is the current status of the machine?
Title: Re: IGT Vision Tripple Diamond
Post by: Painkiller2014 on February 27, 2015, 09:29:50 AM
The Machine works i Need some fine adjust.
I can Chose of some Bonuses
Becouse i dont know what Bonus is the right that i can see the same Pictures as the reels
Title: Re: IGT Vision Tripple Diamond
Post by: Painkiller2014 on March 02, 2015, 10:10:44 AM
Next Problem
I  make the Setup and all thinks are olright becouse if i pull the Plug wait a few of minutes and turn the machine on again it Comes the same Error !!!!Ram Error !!! :banghead:I have Change all batteries make a Ram Clear and a new Setup but ist Alwaiys the same after a Time with no Energie Ram ERROR!!! :duh:
What can be the Problem??

Greetings
Title: Re: IGT Vision Tripple Diamond
Post by: qbert on March 02, 2015, 08:01:36 PM
There is a battery in the top display have you changed that one?
Title: Re: IGT Vision Tripple Diamond
Post by: therockinelvis on March 03, 2015, 05:42:23 AM
Ram error usually comes from changing chips. Check your solder joints on MPU battery. The top box battery won't cause this. The only advice I can give on your bonus screen is to try all the different bonus settings until you find the one you want. I was searching in settings and found bonus settings and saw like 10. I left it alone. All my visions have the bonus play and don't use a SS chip
Title: Re: IGT Vision Tripple Diamond
Post by: Painkiller2014 on March 03, 2015, 11:38:54 AM
May be the ss chip is the Problem
I have borrow another board and will try first give the ss chip out and look what hapend
Than i try the othe board with my Chips
Title: Re: IGT Vision Tripple Diamond
Post by: Painkiller2014 on March 03, 2015, 11:41:51 AM
@ qbert  wich Batterie do you mean?
On the board?
Title: Re: IGT Vision Tripple Diamond
Post by: therockinelvis on March 03, 2015, 06:44:34 PM
He's talking about the coin battery located inside the top monitor. I don't think that will give you the RAM error. Did you check your solder joints on your MPU battery?
Title: Re: IGT Vision Tripple Diamond
Post by: Painkiller2014 on March 04, 2015, 07:42:32 AM
Which solder Joints?
Can you say me where they are?
I have romove the ss Chip lock the new Message !!
Title: Re: IGT Vision Tripple Diamond
Post by: qbert on March 04, 2015, 10:06:51 AM
There is a 3 volt round battery that is soldered to the mpu board it must be over 2.8 volts for everything to operate properly. This is the solder joints to check.
 You can also remove and discard the green varta battery you do not need it for home use.
I do not believe your as chip is bad. Make sure battery measures at least 2.8 volts.
Title: Re: IGT Vision Tripple Diamond
Post by: Painkiller2014 on March 08, 2015, 09:15:15 AM
Thanks for your help!!
But it was the Board !!
I have test e new board with my old Chips and the machine works well also with the ss Chip
I have check a new board and al thinks working
if i turn tha machine of or pull the plug the machine works
thanks!!!!
Title: Re: IGT Vision Tripple Diamond
Post by: therockinelvis on March 08, 2015, 05:12:25 PM
Glad you got it. So you have it showing the reels? What setting did you use?
Title: Re: IGT Vision Tripple Diamond
Post by: Painkiller2014 on March 12, 2015, 10:50:31 AM
No i have Chose the Mistery Factory Price is funnier to Play

Gerrtings froma Austria and thanks
Title: Re: IGT Vision Tripple Diamond
Post by: therockinelvis on March 12, 2015, 11:33:39 AM
 Mistery Factory Price is funnier to Play???
Would love to see a video of it. You have to do mp3 on here or upload the youtube and post link here.
Title: Re: IGT Vision Tripple Diamond
Post by: Painkiller2014 on March 12, 2015, 01:45:40 PM
Sorry but the Machines is not  available to Play i have bring it back today!!
I thinks Mystery Money Factory is better as Mystery Door Price or something

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