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How to use a PE+ wingboard
« on: February 10, 2022, 04:20:18 PM »
I have a superboard, how does the wingboard attach? I am planning on adding some games.
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Re: How to use a PE+ wingboard
« Reply #1 on: February 10, 2022, 06:05:38 PM »
You remove the CMOS RAM and Data chips on the MPU board and the wingboard plugs into those sockets. 

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Re: How to use a PE+ wingboard
« Reply #2 on: February 11, 2022, 12:21:17 AM »
so, what are my alternatives?  I really want a 9/6 straight poker machine. or the next best thing to it.  I think the over riding question, is how can I change from my current double double bonus poker to a straight jacks or better?  I would love to have a dozen games, but that's not possible with the PE plus setup I have.                         .

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Re: How to use a PE+ wingboard
« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2022, 08:00:08 AM »
Easy.  Change the game software.  You have a superboard that supports multi-poker software sets (5 games in each set), pick one that has your J or B 9/6.  This is the set I run on mine, it has it.


XM00001P   P77A   99.20   Multi-Poker (Bonus Poker Four-of-a-Kind)   CG2174   CAPX2174
XM00001P   P200A   98.50   Multi-Poker (Bonus Poker Deluxe)            
XM00001P   P34A   100.80   Multi-Poker (Deuces Wild)            
XM00001P   CA           99.50   Multi-Poker (Jacks or Better)            
XM00001P   P324A   100.20   Multi-Poker (Double Bonus Poker)            

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Re: How to use a PE+ wingboard
« Reply #4 on: February 11, 2022, 02:01:15 PM »
I am needing to buy parts, Can you recommend who is reliable and has an interest in making sure you get the right parts for the right machine.  Looking for full set of buttons for both my S+ and PE plus.  I just finished a nightmare of tracing down a non working micro switch- after sanding down the gunk on the terminals, brought it back to life.  are the guys on this board a good source for parts?  Thanks for the info on the chips.  By any chance do you know of a Youtube video of someone swapping out game chips on an MPU?

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Re: How to use a PE+ wingboard
« Reply #5 on: February 11, 2022, 02:37:57 PM »
Yes, vendors here are reputable or they wouldn't be here.  You can probably get a set of chips from member RB, but the CAPX chip you might have to look around for. 

I'm not aware of any youtube videos, but it's not a difficult thing.  Remove the old game software, put in the new, clear the errors and that's about it.

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Re: How to use a PE+ wingboard
« Reply #6 on: February 11, 2022, 04:48:00 PM »
The vendors on the home page have NOT paid for advertisements. They were offered banner ad's by our late "great" host Joey because they are the good ones.
If you let them know you are from NLG they will treat you right. I suggest you call them and not necessarily go through the web site.
JIM and RB are on the forum and can often get you parts quickly as well.

In this case a PE+ MPU board for a slant top is the same as a MPU board for the uprights. The metal trays the board sits in is a bit different but thats it.

To remove a chip - you can get chip extractors - which I find very horrible to use. I think someone created these to make a buck. Kind of like a special pooper scooper when a plastic bag or shovel will do.

Looking at the chips they should all have labels on them. If you can see the little glass windows on the top that is not good. EPROMS are eraseable using ultraviolet - left exposed to light long enough they may go bad. Usually to erase them you need high intensity UV for 20min so don't worry that they were exposed to the room light for a couple of hours but you do want a label on them to cover the little window and also so you know where they came from... ie a MGO chip looks just like a MBO chip.

You won't get into trouble for putting the wrong chips in the wrong sockets (yes we will judge and laugh at you - but you won't be in trouble) - in the case of a MBO and MGO chip - B is for Blue and G is for Green and the consequences is that you will have the wrong colors. You put the Program and Data chips in the wrong sockets the machine won't start. No harm no foul - just put them in the right spots. The cavet is that there is an orientation to the chip that you do need to pay attention to.

Use a small flat head - gently put it under one end of the chip and wiggle it so the chip starts to come up - then do the same at the other end.
You don't want to wedge the chip up as you risk bending the pins so bring it up a bit from each end at a time until it comes loose. Take your time.
a chip extractor is meant to clip on each side of the chip and allow you to pull straight up. It slips off more often than it grips and people have pulled legs right out of the chips as the are gripped too tight in the sockets - your better off with a screwdriver.

Now that you have the chip out (here is the cavet) - The first thing to observe is that the chip will either have a knotch in it or a small hole on one end.
Next look at the socket - you will see that there is a notch on the socket - when a chip goes back in just make sure the notch on the socket is at the same end as the one on the chip.
Not a lot of rocket science here - however if you put the chip in backwards you will fry it - so lets try not to do that.

Ideally store your chips pressed into some non-static foam or a chip tube.  Where will you get these items ?? When you buy new chips they will come either in a chip tube or non-static foam. Just reuse the ones that came with your new chip set. I keep mine in a box in a drawer (away from light sources).

When pressing in the chips into the sockets make sure all the pins are aimed at the right spots and gently press each end and make sure the pins go down into the holes - its easy to do it too fast and one leg buckles and slips under the chip and you don't notice its bent until you put the whole machine back together and something doesn't work - then you start pulling them out one by one... and as murphy says its always the last one to be found. S+'s have but two chips - these have 8 chips. 











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Re: How to use a PE+ wingboard
« Reply #7 on: February 19, 2022, 02:06:15 PM »
I have my wingboard on the way, will I need to have a clear chip set too, to make the installation?

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Re: How to use a PE+ wingboard
« Reply #8 on: February 19, 2022, 02:26:52 PM »
Not normally any use for a clear.  You'll need a SET to set the machine denomination and enable the bill validator. 

I'm surprised you were able to find a wingboard, congrats on that.


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Re: How to use a PE+ wingboard
« Reply #9 on: February 19, 2022, 02:29:46 PM »
I'm surprised you were able to find a wingboard, congrats on that.

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Re: How to use a PE+ wingboard
« Reply #10 on: February 19, 2022, 02:30:52 PM »
Not in my hands yet, but on the way.

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Re: How to use a PE+ wingboard
« Reply #11 on: February 19, 2022, 02:45:39 PM »
Will any IGT PE+ set chip work, I have found one on EBAY "Bill Validator Set38 Chip".  the date on this is 1989.  Also comes with a clear chip.

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Re: How to use a PE+ wingboard
« Reply #12 on: February 19, 2022, 03:17:30 PM »
It depends on the game program you going to use.  I have XMP00017 which calls for SET4.   

I'd check with RB rather than ebay and I'd definitely stay away from jjslots.

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Re: How to use a PE+ wingboard
« Reply #13 on: February 19, 2022, 03:40:58 PM »
will do, thanks for watching my back.

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Re: How to use a PE+ wingboard
« Reply #14 on: February 26, 2022, 10:21:31 AM »
OK, installed the wingboard by removing cmos & data and plugging into the 2 chip slots and the 8 pin out on the finger. 

What did I do (or not do) wrong?  BV accepts and credits properly, but I only have the original game available.
Reinstalled the MPU, and got a cmos error.  After several resets and a jackpot key or two, it came back up but there was no change in enabling any of the new games.

Possibilities?  I didn't securely mount wingboard (I thought I did)
I have a set038 and a 123 clear that I haven't used.

The good news is that I can still run DBL DBL Bonus just as before, but I can't understand how that even came back.
HELP!

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Re: How to use a PE+ wingboard
« Reply #15 on: February 26, 2022, 10:32:05 AM »
On other tidbit in the mystery, I pulled out x002067P and on the new board, it has a x002068P.  The wingboard is working because I now get 2x payout paid vs. 1x payout with the original chip.

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Re: How to use a PE+ wingboard
« Reply #16 on: February 26, 2022, 10:40:24 AM »
What program and CG set are you using?  Only certain sets are compatible with the wingboard.


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Re: How to use a PE+ wingboard
« Reply #17 on: February 26, 2022, 10:55:31 AM »
XP000023 and CG2275, and if i need to change these where can I get them?

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Re: How to use a PE+ wingboard
« Reply #18 on: February 26, 2022, 11:23:21 AM »
That's the problem.  You need a multi-poker program (XMP) and compatible CG files.  I have XMP00017 and CG2298.  The EPROM files are the easy part.  You can download them from MAME sites.  The difficult part is the CAPX chip with is a old bipolar PROM and most EPROM programmers can't program them.  There's an adapter that will allow the use of a regular EPROM in place of the PROM some information can be found here and on the old site:

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Post a WTB classified and maybe you'll get lucky and find an original CAPX PROM or an adapter?  You managed to find the wingboard, maybe you can do it again?


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Re: How to use a PE+ wingboard
« Reply #19 on: February 26, 2022, 12:58:35 PM »
You gotta bear with me, I am a newbee.  Is CAPX the same as "CGxxxx" chip.  do I need 4 of these (MRO, MGO, MBO, MXO)?  And  I also need to find a MPX00017 (replace my MP000023 in program C37 slot).  If I can find these, this should duplicate your success. 
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