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IGT S+ three reel slot. Won't accept coins
« on: July 22, 2022, 01:51:34 PM »
7/22/2022

IGT S+ three reel slot machine. Model B5133 CIW, Mfg 12/93,
Coin Mechanisms Inc. coin comparator Model CC-16-D.100 Rev F, CMI#66160071, 24 volt No Inhibit, IGT Part# 57018991 for small coins.
Motherboard battery Lithium #130127, 61 Green, ER14250 1/2AA, 3.6 Volt, 1.2 Ah.

My question: The battery on the motherboard reads .8 Volts when checked with a VOM. Will a low voltage battery prevent the coin comparator from functioning?
I have a new battery ordered and will replace it when received.

The machine worked well taking nickles and building up credits. The bill acceptor does not accept any bills no matter how old or new they are. Just spits them out.

So I fed the machine nickles and all was well.

About a month ago, it stopped taking coins. They just drop right thru into the metal tray below the front door. No credits show as available.

I opened the door and there was no loght at all on the coin comparitor. No Green, Red or Orange led light. Just nothing. I know that the LED light changes color to indicate the comparitors condition so it must be lit up with the door open so you can see it.

I checked all the fuses and all are good. There are no broken or unplugged conections.

I removed the coin hopper and was able to look behind the bill acceptor and I could see a small amount of an orangeish/brown sticky substance directly below the pull handle assembly. I believe that the handle actually functions an electrical switch and perhaps this is some type of insulation melting??

I'm planning to remove the bill acceptor to allow access to the handle to remove it.

I checked the motherboard for any visible signs of burning or damaged parts and everything looks good. All I can see is that the battery voltage is way down.

The sensitivity screw on the coin comparitor is turned counterclockwise. That allows the coins to register easier.

There are no codes showing.

So I'm really stumped. If anyone has had a similar situation or has any idea why this is happening, please post a reply.

Thanks,

Keats
Arizona

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Re: IGT S+ three reel slot. Won't accept coins
« Reply #1 on: July 22, 2022, 03:16:48 PM »
I wo.uld try a different coin comparitor,also the coin in sensor underneath the coin mechanism itself  may be dirty. what the hell,give it a try .PInball wizard

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Re: IGT S+ three reel slot. Won't accept coins
« Reply #2 on: July 22, 2022, 07:22:59 PM »
7/22/2022

IGT S+ three reel slot machine. Model B5133 CIW, Mfg 12/93,
Coin Mechanisms Inc. coin comparator Model CC-16-D.100 Rev F, CMI#66160071, 24 volt No Inhibit, IGT Part# 57018991 for small coins.
Motherboard battery Lithium #130127, 61 Green, ER14250 1/2AA, 3.6 Volt, 1.2 Ah.

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The machine worked well taking nickles and building up credits. The bill acceptor does not accept any bills no matter how old or new they are. Just spits them out.

Has the BV ever worked?  Is the insert bills light on?  If not you will need a set chip to enable the BV.  The SP+ FAQ describes how to do that and may people here can supply the set chip if you need one.

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About a month ago, it stopped taking coins. They just drop right thru into the metal tray below the front door. No credits show as available.

Mine does that periodically as well (assuming the insert coins light is on).  Have you tried changing the sample coin?  Sometimes just sliding the sample coin holder a few times will make it start taking coins again.

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I opened the door and there was no loght at all on the coin comparitor. No Green, Red or Orange led light. Just nothing. I know that the LED light changes color to indicate the comparitors condition so it must be lit up with the door open so you can see it.

Logical assumption but, no, the comparitor LED will not be on if the door is open.  The only way to see it active is to snake the comparitor out through an opening with the belly door open.  You should be able to press the white button on the comparitor with the door open to see if it adds test credits but I wouldn't sweat it yet?   

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I removed the coin hopper and was able to look behind the bill acceptor and I could see a small amount of an orangeish/brown sticky substance directly below the pull handle assembly. I believe that the handle actually functions an electrical switch and perhaps this is some type of insulation melting??

Common observation.  If you search the forum for "orange brown" you will find several posts with pictures.  IIRC it is from a rubber seal that dampens the rebound of the pull handle which starts to dissolve over time.  Another back burner item in my opinion?

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Re: IGT S+ three reel slot. Won't accept coins
« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2022, 07:56:55 AM »
7/23/22
"Off-Track" thank you for the reply..
I'll try to post a photo of the machine, etc.
BV never worked.  When I bought it from an individual, I did not try a bill. Shame on me. That's why I relied on the nickles.
Tried different sample nickles. Nothing helps so far.
Insert coin light is Not On. All that's showing is last hand paid out amount on the far left end.
Ill try to move the comparitor enough to see if it will light up. I was not aware of a White button on the comparitor to add test credits. I'll look for it.
Rubber seal sounds like that could be it. Not a big deal but I thought I'd check it out while the machine is down and I'm waiting for a new battery.

Thanks again...

Keats
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Re: IGT S+ three reel slot. Won't accept coins
« Reply #4 on: July 23, 2022, 08:07:21 AM »
The tiny white button is on the coin in optics board just below the comparitor.

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Re: IGT S+ three reel slot. Won't accept coins
« Reply #5 on: July 23, 2022, 08:52:53 AM »
I don't see where you replaced the battery. Sometimes an S+ will not toss the 12 code even when the battery is low. Low battery will shut the CC and  the BV down. Start by replacing the battery.

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Re: IGT S+ three reel slot. Won't accept coins
« Reply #6 on: July 23, 2022, 10:03:28 AM »
Lets start at the beginning - if your not getting the Insert Coin Light the machine is not ready to accept coins.
Messing with the coin bits is not going to help you.

IF you have an error 12 - this means battery low - you need to fix this before you can move on. Nothing works when  you have an error 12.
If you don't have a error 12 then your battery is not being sensed as low regardless of what voltage your reading while on the board.

The most common cause of the insert coin light not being on - is that the door is sensed to be open.
Open the door... press the white diagnostic button a couple of times, close the door.
The reels should spin and the machine comes up to the insert coins prompt.
If your reels don't spin when you close the door - the door is not being sensed as closed.
In addition to the actual door optics there are other doors on your slot (belly door, bill validator door).

The first thing I would check is that your bill box is closed. The door on the front of it usually doesn't have a lock, open close the door tightly - if its springing open then use a small piece of electrical tape to keep it closed. Close the door. Does the reel spin ?

If the door optics have died - your going to need to replace those, you need the insert coin light to be on before your going to be able to deal with any actual bill or coin acceptance issues. You can check your optics by using a cell phone camera. The light is infrared so you can't see it with the naked eye but using a digital camera pointed at the optic you should see a small flicker from the emitter. If this is working - I would check the alignment of the optics to make sure they are matching up.

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Re: IGT S+ three reel slot. Won't accept coins
« Reply #7 on: July 23, 2022, 03:53:18 PM »
The tiny white button is on the coin in optics board just below the comparitor.

Found it. It really is tiny....

Thank you.

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Re: IGT S+ three reel slot. Won't accept coins
« Reply #8 on: July 23, 2022, 03:56:05 PM »
I don't see where you replaced the battery. Sometimes an S+ will not toss the 12 code even when the battery is low. Low battery will shut the CC and  the BV down. Start by replacing the battery.

I ordered a new battery and will replace it when it arrives.  I am showing NO Codes at all. Nothing shows up except the Winner Paid box.

I'm going to try to post a few photos.

Thanks
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Re: IGT S+ three reel slot. Won't accept coins
« Reply #9 on: July 23, 2022, 04:02:04 PM »
Lets start at the beginning - if your not getting the Insert Coin Light the machine is not ready to accept coins.
Messing with the coin bits is not going to help you.

IF you have an error 12 - this means battery low - you need to fix this before you can move on. Nothing works when  you have an error 12.
If you don't have a error 12 then your battery is not being sensed as low regardless of what voltage your reading while on the board.

The most common cause of the insert coin light not being on - is that the door is sensed to be open.
Open the door... press the white diagnostic button a couple of times, close the door.
The reels should spin and the machine comes up to the insert coins prompt.
If your reels don't spin when you close the door - the door is not being sensed as closed.
In addition to the actual door optics there are other doors on your slot (belly door, bill validator door).

The first thing I would check is that your bill box is closed. The door on the front of it usually doesn't have a lock, open close the door tightly - if its springing open then use a small piece of electrical tape to keep it closed. Close the door. Does the reel spin ?

If the door optics have died - your going to need to replace those, you need the insert coin light to be on before your going to be able to deal with any actual bill or coin acceptance issues. You can check your optics by using a cell phone camera. The light is infrared so you can't see it with the naked eye but using a digital camera pointed at the optic you should see a small flicker from the emitter. If this is working - I would check the alignment of the optics to make sure they are matching up.

Post back to tell us what you have found.

Lots of very good info here. Thank You.
I have No Codes showing at all. The only thing that lights up is the Winner Paid.
I have a new battery ordered and when it arrives, I'm going to install it and try all of these suggestions.
Will try to post a few photos of the machine.

Thanks again,
Keats

Arizona

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Re: IGT S+ three reel slot. Won't accept coins
« Reply #10 on: July 23, 2022, 04:11:16 PM »
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Here' a few photos of my Triple Play slot machine. I hope they post.

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Re: IGT S+ three reel slot. Won't accept coins
« Reply #11 on: July 23, 2022, 04:15:05 PM »
Pics must be resized to 1000x1000 or smaller.

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Re: IGT S+ three reel slot. Won't accept coins
« Reply #12 on: July 23, 2022, 04:24:01 PM »
Pics must be resized to 1000x1000 or smaller.

Well so much for that.
All my photos are 3024 X 3024. I don't know how to reduce them to 1000 X 1000.
I think I need a youngster to show me how to do that.

Oh well..

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Re: IGT S+ three reel slot. Won't accept coins
« Reply #13 on: July 23, 2022, 04:27:49 PM »
Right click on pic on win 10, choose resize.  Most cell phones give option to resize before sending to yourself.

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Re: IGT S+ three reel slot. Won't accept coins
« Reply #14 on: July 23, 2022, 07:05:32 PM »
Keats where you at in Arizona? I'm in Maricopa and work in Chandler - just moved from Mesa. PM me maybe I can help.
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Re: IGT S+ three reel slot. Won't accept coins
« Reply #15 on: July 24, 2022, 11:00:29 AM »
Keats where you at in Arizona? I'm in Maricopa and work in Chandler - just moved from Mesa. PM me maybe I can help.

I'm in Peoria.
I'll keep you in mind, but I'm thinking that a new battery (on order) and a check of the door sensors may do it.

Thanks

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Re: IGT S+ three reel slot. Won't accept coins
« Reply #16 on: July 24, 2022, 11:15:55 AM »
If the winner paid window we is lit up and it’s not a error 12 - I see no value in replacing your battery.
In fact if you don’t have a clear chip.  You may want to get one of those on order as changing out the battery may cause a 61 loop. Search the site for 61 loop. You will see hundreds of posts.
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Re: IGT S+ three reel slot. Won't accept coins
« Reply #17 on: July 24, 2022, 01:38:26 PM »
If the winner paid window we is lit up and it’s not a error 12 - I see no value in replacing your battery.
In fact if you don’t have a clear chip.  You may want to get one of those on order as changing out the battery may cause a 61 loop. Search the site for 61 loop. You will see hundreds of posts.

I'll keep that in mind. I am concerned because the battery only read .8 V . Should be 3.6 V


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Re: IGT S+ three reel slot. Won't accept coins
« Reply #18 on: July 24, 2022, 02:34:18 PM »
Yes it should but you won’t get an accurate reading with the battery soldered to the board.

The absence of an error code is likely a door open issue.
If you haven’t been playing with door optics then it’s likely you bill box door that is open.

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Re: IGT S+ three reel slot. Won't accept coins
« Reply #19 on: July 24, 2022, 05:58:13 PM »
When you close and fully latch the door, does the winner paid amount briefly go out and then come back on?

 

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