IGT S+ three reel slot. Won't accept coins

[Stayouttadabunker]

Anytime! 

[sixcardmark]

I will toss in a 731 and see what is different.  I thought they were the same settings just had a different way to get to them.

[jay]

LIV or PGA ?  what a mess.

[Keats]

5-0 makes cash-credit button blink and you don't have to press it to light it up. (does not blink until you have credits)
5-1 you have to light cash-credit button up or it will pay from tray.
5-2 sends coins to tray.

EDIT: this is with SP1271

It worked....  Had to set it to 5-2 for credit light to come on and 8-1
It's taking $1.00 bills only but that's better than it was before. Credits are adding up.

Thank you to everyone..

Keats
Arizona

[jay]

I would suggest you try older bills….none of the colored money will work.
Jim can set you up with a head that can deal with most everything.

[Keats]

I would suggest you try older bills….none of the colored money will work.
Jim can set you up with a head that can deal with most everything.

Yea, I'm keeping my eyes open for good looking older bills. So far it's kinda picky about the $1.00's as well. Takes them sometimes and we then retrieve them from the cash box and run them again. Sometimes even they don't work again.

I really didn't want to have to pull the MPU again and go thru the BV chip process. Maybe at a later date.

I know that the BV is old but it was suppose to accept 1-5-10-20's. None of the larger bills are accepted. I'm sure it's another setting. Maybe when I set up the chip, I should have entered 20 instead of 1. Maybe it's only set to take the $1.00's. ?? Hey, I'm still ahead of the game.. It's running and taking some bills so life is not bad...


Thanks again
Keats
Arizona

[jay]

No.

The S+ is based on coins & credits.
You drop a coin in, it compares against the sample coin if its a match you get a credit.
The machine has no idea if its a penny, dime, nickel, quarter, or Spanish Galloon.
One in = One Credit.

I use Japanese Pashilo tokens that are roughly the size of a quarter. I have 4 machines and around 10,000 tokens.

When you SET the bill validator your telling it what denomination to translate the coin exchange to. Setting it to 5 gives you 20 credits for your dollar, setting it to 25 gives you 4 credits. You do not SET what bills it takes.

There is a series of dipswitches on the side of the head that tell the validator what bills it will take or what to exclude.
On some of the older heads casinos turned off $50's because there was a way to color a $5 bill to make it appear to be a $50 to the head.
When people inquired the casinos used to tell people that $50's were unlucky.

The other point I will make is that money is dirty. So the optics in the heads get dirty and cleaning helps.
There is also belt replacement as sometimes they slip and fail to read bills.
There are calibration cards that you insert into the head that reprogram/realign a head to better read bills.

Since your up and working with coins (the title of your post)
- I suggest you start a new post in the validator section titled - DB145 only accepting $1's and the guys will help check your dip switches etc.

[Keats]

No.

The S+ is based on coins & credits.
You drop a coin in, it compares against the sample coin if its a match you get a credit.
The machine has no idea if its a penny, dime, nickel, quarter, or Spanish Galloon.
One in = One Credit.

I use Japanese Pashilo tokens that are roughly the size of a quarter. I have 4 machines and around 10,000 tokens.

When you SET the bill validator your telling it what denomination to translate the coin exchange to. Setting it to 5 gives you 20 credits for your dollar, setting it to 25 gives you 4 credits. You do not SET what bills it takes.

There is a series of dipswitches on the side of the head that tell the validator what bills it will take or what to exclude.
On some of the older heads casinos turned off $50's because there was a way to color a $5 bill to make it appear to be a $50 to the head.
When people inquired the casinos used to tell people that $50's were unlucky.

The other point I will make is that money is dirty. So the optics in the heads get dirty and cleaning helps.
There is also belt replacement as sometimes they slip and fail to read bills.
There are calibration cards that you insert into the head that reprogram/realign a head to better read bills.

Since your up and working with coins (the title of your post)
- I suggest you start a new post in the validator section titled - DB145 only accepting $1's and the guys will help check your dip switches etc.

Thanks Jay. You've given me a lot of info and I believe that if I set the BV to 1 instead of 5 it will give me 100 credits for a buck. That would be great. I know that the grandkids would love to have a bunch of credits to play when they come to visit.

I'll take your advise and create a new posting because this is a different topic.

Thanks again.

Keats
Arizona

[sixcardmark]

According to the PSR for SP731  $.05 (nickel) is lowest denom you can choose.

[jay]

Perhaps he can upgrade to a 1271 then. It will not change the play but widen the options.

[sixcardmark]

I prefer SP1271 on my games and it does allow for 1 cent denom.

[Keats]

I prefer SP1271 on my games and it does allow for 1 cent denom.

O.K., Not to sound too dumb. Isn't the actual game on the game chip ? If I were to get a SP1271 game chip, wouldn't I lose the current game I have on my machine?
Is the same game available on a different game chip and it could be swapped with my SP731 chip?

Getting it to do a 1 cent denomination would be nice to build up credits but if the BV could be set to accept 20's or even 10's then I would not have to change the game chip.

I'm going to post on another area that deals with the BV. This is more the BV issue now than the game not working as shown in my original posting RE: coin acceptor not taking coins.

Thanks to all who replied and I really do appreciate it.

Keats
Arizona

[sixcardmark]

SP chip is like the Operating System. The reel chip (SS) has the paytable to match the reel strips and award glass. 

[jay]

Short answer NO you won't loose your game but you will have to use your Set chip again to activate your validator.

There are two chips that make up a game set.
The SP Game Chip and the SS Reel Chip.
The Game Chip can be thought about as the Operating System of the Game and the Reel Chip is the game / theme.

The 731 is an older chip and the 1271 is a newer chip both are roughly equivalent.
Per the boyz above it would appear that the newer chip allows 1c denomination while the older does not.
There will be other changes such as the ability to have different credit and hopper payout limits rather than having them tied to the same value.
Basically newer chip, more options.

The PSR document - Program Summary Report provides all of the options and setup information for the Game Chip
The PAR Sheet - Pay Table and Reel shows all the details about %% payback, variation etc.
If you go to the IGT game bible (see Ricks FAQs on the main page for the link) you can look up your theme and see all the different SS chips for your theme - each having a different payback %% there is also a bit of the information that is available on the PAR sheet.

Based on the PAR information - it will tell you what 'TYPE" of game chip you need to run the theme.
TYPE 0 is the most common - no special features. About 90% of all game chips support TYPE 0 games.
TYPE 1 are nudge games where the reels go up or down based on a reel symbol like the arrow on a diamond or a balloon.
There are about 14 or 15 different TYPES.

There are many different game chips available - a 731 or 1271 support several kinds of games as do many others.
From the SP1271.DOC I gave you ......the 1271 supports Type 0 (no special features), Type 1 (Slam Dunk, Balloon Bars, etc.), Type 4 (Spin ’Til You Win), Type 5 (4th of July), and Type 19 (4th Coin Buy-a-Pay). 

Certain game chips support Montana Credits - which allow you to plug in say 15 coins and you get 15 credits, where as most chips just let you put in the max number of coins for your theme.
If you want to use Montana Credits you just need to find a Game Chip that supports Montana Credits and supports TYPE 0

Some themes (not yours) have the ability to choose from 10 different winning songs. So when your machine hits - instead of the classic ding,ding,ding sound it can Play "Your in the money" and other catchy tunes. This is supported with the 731 chip but not the 1271. Some of these fun features went away to make room for more accounting information that was required by gaming regulators.