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Title: Mikohn cham1 standalone in s2000?
Post by: Retro tech repair on April 15, 2018, 12:14:08 PM
i have a cham1 that originally came out of a bally 6000 im hoping i can get working in an s2000. I didn't think the cham1 did stand alone but the chips are labled cham1(e)-sa and --standalone-- . This setup also had with it a smart machine interface with a chip labled SIB/V4.15salone. If anyone has any info on this setup I would appreciate it.
Title: Re: Mikohn cham1 standalone in s2000?
Post by: qbert on April 15, 2018, 02:40:40 PM
Post pictures, to my knowledge Cham1 will not do stand alone without a con1 or con2.
Title: Re: Mikohn cham1 standalone in s2000?
Post by: Retro tech repair on April 16, 2018, 02:45:58 PM
Its not a standard cham1 the board is totally different.
Title: Re: Mikohn cham1 standalone in s2000?
Post by: Retro tech repair on April 20, 2018, 09:13:32 AM
I did some more work on this thing today, and you program it as if its con1. I have it programmed how I normally would for igt but i have no clue how to wire it.
Title: Re: Mikohn cham1 standalone in s2000?
Post by: qbert on April 21, 2018, 04:27:12 AM
I would think this would be where the smart machine interface comes in. Do you know how they were connected to the Bally machine?
Title: Re: Mikohn cham1 standalone in s2000?
Post by: Retro tech repair on April 21, 2018, 05:38:12 AM
Thats what i was thinking also. I think i have the entire harnes from its original setup but some of th wires have been cut the 2 running to controller being some of them. I do have the ends and was going to trace the wire possitions to chips next time i get a second.
Title: Re: Mikohn cham1 standalone in s2000?
Post by: jay on April 21, 2018, 03:26:14 PM

I have a number of CON1's, CHAM1, CHAM44. My experience however  is only with the S+ and PE+ (Video Poker)


On a S+ there is a 4 pin interface on the motherboard that connects to the CON1.
Only 3 of the 4 pins are active (schmatic shows PIN4 as unused) and only 2 connect to the CON1 as the CON1 did not directly support the Data pin.


The 3 pins are Coin IN, GND, Data.


Coin IN & GND - momentarily short when a coin is inserted to the S+ (or a credit is played) this momentary short causes the progressive to increment.
When the top pay is hit (progressive) a longer short occurs and it triggers the Con1 to go into jackpot mode.


Looking at this Cham1 board I suspect that the J2 interface with 3 pins might be the connection to the machine.


Since you are already working with the board with PSP you should be able to take a small wire and jump pin 1 & 2 and by quickly shorting them prove if this increments your progressive.


The Data wire is used when you have a CHAM2+ connecting to the S+ - It displays the jackpot amount on the Coin in / Winner paid windows on a Top Award.



I am not sure if the Cham1 would support the data pin or not as it pre-dates the ChamII.


As I already mentioned the CON1 did not have a data out. You could however use a Mikon Gateway (another board) that connects to the display out of the CON1 and the GND from the 3 wire interface to create the data out pin and then it would display the amount. This is also what you need to use as well on a PE+ (Video Poker) to display the jackpot amount on the screen instead of the word progressive.


To correct an earlier post the CON2i (Mikohn Supercontroller) only worked with ChamII (Non plus) and did not work with Cham1 boards.
Con1 --> Cham1
Con2 --> Cham2


Once you figure out the pins to make it increment this would connect to your S2000 the same as a Cham2 board would.















Title: Re: Mikohn cham1 standalone in s2000?
Post by: Retro tech repair on July 19, 2021, 08:45:08 AM
Its not a standard cham1 it doesn't have the dipswitches and a few other differences. I haven't tried to program it yet the laptop i had the software on died and have yet to find the files. When it loads it just says empty none of the normal c codes.
Title: Re: Mikohn cham1 standalone in s2000?
Post by: jay on July 19, 2021, 10:02:39 AM
As a continuing member you have access to the downloads section.
There is a copy of the PSP software in there.
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