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**Reel Slots** Gaming Machines => Bally Electromechanical => Topic started by: jim k-falls on May 17, 2014, 03:12:41 PM
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Does anybody have any info or a schematic on this? and any idea what its worth..i googled it and couldn't find much.. thanks Jim
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Bally Deluxe Draw Bell, if I'm not mistaken. The pics you posted are teeny tiny! The console machines are neat. Craigslist, correct? Value is anywhere from $200 (in rough shape) to $1000 or so (nice, working condition). I think the size may hinder the collectibility, and in turn, the price.
Oh, and just google "Bally Deluxe Draw Bell" and you will find sites that have (or claim to have) the schematics.
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Thank you, and yes its on craigslist Portland $500 obo..he said he would trade for a working machine :Scratch-Head: im going to try to fix the micro pics..lol
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Oh yah, pics are much better!!!
Yah, it is what it is, value is pretty much topped around $1,000. Not sure what you can do in your area?
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I appreciate the info and I will do some more research and hopefully find somebody who has one, or a schematic..it would be a fun project though.
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they are a hard sell on east coast lucky to get 100 for them non working , its like a slant top no one wants then except for the guy that can only afford a 100 buck machine. imo stay clear of it
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Well, I needed another bally project, so I talked him down to earth and we struck a deal..i just wonder if the glass can be touched up..it looks like its peeling and im sure there isn't any replacement or reproduction available..
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Has the paint left the glass and is missing? I use a laser color printer and water decal sheet to reproduce color sections. It works better than trying to just paint over the open spaces with a color thats not even close to the match.
Dave
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Dave, its hard to tell from the pics and although I bought it.. I wont pick it up for a while..its 8-9 hours round trip and I probably wont get it til Sat..the guy sent me more pics to my stupid smart phone and it looks like the paint is gone from the heat of the bulbs..ill try to get the pics from my phone and upload them.
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Someone that has very little clue as to slot machine value has one listed in Phoenix on craigslist for 1900. From the pictures the glass looks good, but the cabinet is shot. Call him up and offer him $200 for it
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You are getting a Deluxe Draw bell and what he has appears to be a Reserve Bell backglass with a Deluxe Draw Bell top glass on it. I have had a Reserve Bell and his machine looks like it but the glass isnt right. The top glass is what appears to be what you need but its paint is lifting in places also. He said it is working perfectly, but I dont see the JP amount in the backglass window. It comes from a disk that advances in the bottom of the cabinet and is reflected to the frosted window in the backglass. Also he says its perfect for a collector, and might be right, if that collector needs parts to 2 different machines.
Dave
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is that phoenix az or Oregon? we got a phoenix too..this was the only pic that came out decent.
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Arizona
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Does anybody have any info or a schematic on this? and any idea what its worth..i googled it and couldn't find much.. thanks Jim
Jim..
Check at coinslots for the manual.. They have something close to what your looking for, but I don't know if it's exact?? Here's the link..
http://www.coinslots.com/manuals/bally/ (http://www.coinslots.com/manuals/bally/)
Gary
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As far as your peeling paint issues go: I would suggest looking up what the pinball restoration guys do. When we work on machines we either cover the painted side with a full sheet of mylar to secure the paint that way. We used to use krylon triple thick clear coat.
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I agree with the triple clear from Krylon. After that, I scan the original glass for the color match. Then I open the scan in a paint program and get a good copy of the color. I make sure that I paste it to a large enough area to cover what I need to replace. I then print it with a laser printer onto a water decal clear sheet. I will cut the size I need for the color replacement and place it in the water and when it glides around, slide it onto the glass where its needed. You need to make sure the clear coat is dry for a week or so to make sure its right. This is the best way I have found at this point to replace and match a color area. When it comes to mirrored areas, I am lost, but those usually leave the glass last. After the decal is applied correctly, I let it dry well and when i am happy with the repair, I apply another coat of clear to it to seal it onto it.
Dave
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I think im going to need a new printer..lol all I got is a HP Photosmart all-in-one..and where do you get the decal sheets?
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http://www.decalpaper.com/Default.asp (http://www.decalpaper.com/Default.asp)
Do not use an inkjet printer only a good quality laser printer to make sure the colors stay.
Dave
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That's so cool, man im going to be bugging you when I get ready to do this..so now its time to check out some lazer printers..thanks Dave
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I would advise you to buy an old bally belly glass that has some peeling and get some practice.
Dave
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Good idea, and I did look at some laser printers last night, but not sure if the cheaper ones are the way to go..mid range mabe, but holy crap is that toner spending..i hope it last a long time.
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Unless you need to go that way and can utilize the printer to help offset the cost, I feel the way to go is Staples or another printer company. I always have them print on a overhead projector sheet so I can do a final view of the colors and see how close the match. The only time I have problems is when I need to be translucent, which is a lot of times. You want to let light travel thru but not able to see the bulbs under the glass. I sometimes use a glass paint found in Dick Blick. You dont want to heat it in the oven. Bujt I use the frosted to use over the decal once applied to help with it. Sometime I use to applications of decals, one for the color and another one to make it translucent, like a light white. It all depends on the color and quality of the printer. By looking at your glass, if you can get the replacement for 200$, you will save time and get a better quality glass. This process works great with background and basic colors but when it comes to mirrored arrows and trim, it doesnt work well, and I see that the area your looking to work on has a good deal of that type of trim. There is a company in Europe that does replacement glasses and if you would like, I can get you their info. A little pricey but the work I have seen, you cant get any better. He does a lot of Bingo glasses.
Dave
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Dave, im getting this machine delivered sun. a buddy of mine is picking it up on his way home from Washington..after I get it working , I will start the resto..looking forward to this one..i will post better quality pics when it gets here...thanks for all the advice and I will make a decision on how to send you the glass on Mon..lol Jim
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I like the slot console but I am much more impressed by the old knuckle. That is a nice ride. :hail: :hail: :hail:
Dave
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wtf..thanks but that wasn't suppose to be there :duh: I took my first ride on a p-pad in 62 ,been in the family ever since..my dad always had to take me when I was a kid..Mom insisted, she was pretty damn smart and I never said no I don't want to go..lol
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Mom was smart ... and you were lucky too.
Dave