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**Reel Slots** Gaming Machines => IGT S2000 and Vision Games => Topic started by: Cobra on June 18, 2015, 10:07:09 AM
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IGT, 3 reel,with bill validator, "Pay Five Times"Game. Not sure of exact model.
Forgot and left on for two days--with credit on it.
Went to cash out and shut down,but couldn't. Noted Msg "NoDisp"
Restarted after open and closing door but same msg. I shut down for the night.
Next day try restart and get
MSG "Starting Test of Memory"
Both candle lights flashing--to slow,bottom faster
All 3 reels spinning slow
MSG "Door Open M & Bill Validator Stacker open.
I checked the bill stacker door switch with a test meter and it shows good. Not sure what Open M is other than Main door?
What should I check?
Tks for any help
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If your door is closing tight and the door optics are good and aligned you could look at the vreen battery on the MPU and see if it's corroded
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Tks for reply. Battery looks good, and shows 3.5V on it, could not see any obvious problem on the board.??
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It's an S2000. Is the general reel tilt still going on? The reels turning slowly? If so with the machine on and the reels turning slowly, open the door and turn the reset key one time. That will stop the reels. Then close and latch the door and see if it spins to start a game. The door open m means the door has been opened. Let us know what message if any you are getting after clearing the tilt.
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We should move this topic to S2000 and vision games. To continue.
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The door open m means the door has been opened.
Minor clarification, Door Open means the door is CURRENTLY being sensed as open. Closure XX (XX being door code, such as M, B, etc) indicates the door HAS been opened, and is now sensed as closed.
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I thought that's what I said. Sorry........ :Scratch-Head:
The door open m means the door has been opened.
Minor clarification, Door Open means the door is CURRENTLY being sensed as open. Closure XX (XX being door code, such as M, B, etc) indicates the door HAS been opened, and is now sensed as closed.
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K,
I tried the reset key and nothing, all 3 wheels keep turning slow. I don't have a ticket printer so whenever I would hit "Cash Out" I would have to use reset to clear the "Call Attendant" msg so assume key switch working.
Anything else I can check??
Thanks al.
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Well I guess if it was me I would try with the machine off, remove the bill stacker and reinsert it. Make sure it's all the way in. Close the door on the stacker and turn on the machine close the door and make sure the latch goes all the way down. Check to see if you're getting a closure M message. If it still says door open m it is still reading the main door open. If the closure m is there open the door and try the reset key again to see if it will stop the reels. We need to see what it is and isn't doing to try to get you in the right direction.
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TKS,
This time after using reset key the reels stopped spinning.
Now on start up I get:
Display Passes
Testing Memory
next I get:
Bill stacker error
Closure B
Door open M
Tried reset key with no change
Note: The reels never started spinning
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TKS,
This time after using reset key the reels stopped spinning.
Now on start up I get:
Display Passes
Testing Memory
next I get:
Bill stacker error
Closure B
Door open M
Tried reset key with no change
Note: The reels never started spinning
OK it says the bill stacker isn't lined up or some type of error. The belly glass is closed and the main door is still open. Check the door optics on the bill stacker and make sure one of the wires is not loose. It can be bypassed if needed by stripping the two green wires (on mine) and twisting the ends together. Check that stacker again for alignment and insertion. I would check the main door optics also since it says it's always open. You can check alignment with pencil marks on the cabinet and door to make sure they are lining up. Also if you have another bill stacker you might try that one in the machine to see if it makes a difference. And it might be a case of opening and closing and latching the door a few times to clear old errors. The errors on an S2000 "stack" so you have to clear them one at a time. Keep trying we'll get you there. :cool_thumb_up:
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Your bill stacker error may also simply be that the release lever for that cash can isn't getting fully returned to the lock position.
As far as door optics, as stated above, and this is recommended, remove the wires from the switch on the cash can housing door, strip the wires and tie them together. Do this also on the belly door switch. The main door optics could be misaligned or bad. The alignment procedure Shaggy mentioned should help you determine what the problem might be there
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It sounds like the door open M is the problem. Make shore the latch goes all the way down when you shut the main door. If it is then check the belly door switch, open belly door (bottom glass) it is located in the top left corner in the machine, splice the wires together if they are not already spliced. I would then try to make shore the optics are lined up when you shut the door. If you still can not get it to register closure M then I would try to either bypass the optics or get new ones.
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I agree with shaggy that most likely a bad cash box would be causing this error. Just wondering, is your bill val cycling when the machine comes on? and does it sound like a normal cycle? As for the door open M, most likely will be optics as shaggy gave a good way to line them up. Also make sure your belly door switch is making good contact with the belly door as this will give you a door open M message as well since they are both connected in the wiring. bypassing the belly door switch is best way to go to make sure that switch isn't giving you problems since they can be finicky( as brianfink mentioned). Also, try changing out the door optics if you have another set to rule out any bad parts.
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I didn't mention it but, in the case of checking alignment on the door optics. Use masking tape on the door and cabinet so it will be easy to see. Also I've had bill stackers go bad out of nowhere.
Dave
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Update,
Open,closed BV door, ck BV door latch, open close main door---both a number of times--at some point Iused reset key and the reels rolled and I could play--but I hit the "cash out"and used the key to clear the "call attendant" msg.
Put 1$ in and played 4 times.
Shut off,waited and restarted .
Now after test get:
Top candle only flashing slow now
MSG reads :
"BV comm failure" :Scratch-Head:
TKS Guys.what next?
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When you start the machine up does the b/v sound like it always has or is it not cycling like it used to? I had to replace a bill stacker that went South one day out of no where. Could not get that thing to work. Worked great up until that day. You have to remember these parts are 20+ years old and they have been used a lot. Roz (CVSots) talks about some slides inside the cash cage that the stacker goes in, that have to be tweaked up sometimes. I will do some reading and see if I can find more info. Congrats on getting it to work for a bit. Getting closer all the time.
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what b/v do you have? in one of mine I have a mei (yellow head) and sometimes I have to reseat the head when I get this error
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I would try unplugging the BV harness behind the cash can housing, cycle the machine and see if it comes up ok, then turn it off, plug BV harness back in and restart it. Also check to make sure all BV components are seatex well.
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Update-found time to mess with it again.
Tks Shag-let me no what u find
Bill- Yellow head? Like how do u reset head?
Cowbow--I have 3 different connectors going to BV
1 has 5 green wires on one side
1 has 1 red and 1 blk wire
1 has 1 yel and 1 blk wire
Like witch one do I disco
Also, how do you get the connector apart?
Again TKs all
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looks like this one mine is worn have to reseat (not reset) by pulling on yellow part to lift up and reseat it
more likely not it but just know I have it happen to me
I would try what cowboy stated
Bill
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Bill- Yellow head? Like how do u reset head?
Cowbow--I have 3 different connectors going to BV
1 has 5 green wires on one side
1 has 1 red and 1 blk wire
1 has 1 yel and 1 blk wire
Like witch one do I disco
Also, how do you get the connector apart?
Again TKs all
as billdern just posted, yellow head is a MEI bill validator. 2 Others would be jcm which is blue and then wba which is usually silver housing i believe. Let us know which one you have.
as for the connectors from the harnessing, it sounds like you have a jcm bill validator. I dunno about all 5 wires being green? picture i looked up was green yellow orange red blue then the other 2 smaller ones are red and blk and yellow and blk. There is a long black and white but not needed in this setup if i remember right. I believe cowboy wanted you to disconnect all three by pressing on the black tab on the male connector and then seperate from white female connnector. Comes out pretty easy. Then start up game without giving the bv power and see what happens.
good luck hope we can get closer.
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I think Cowboygames is right. If you disconnect all the leads it shouldn't make any difference. With the b/v disabled, the machine shouldn't recognize it and should boot up. Of course you won't have any credits but getting it up and running is the main priority. Then we can progress as to the problem with the validator.
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Tried disconnecting the 3 plugs going to BV---started up get same BV Comm msg. Hooked plugs back up,restarted and still get BV Comm msg.
BV has a WBA Tag.
I pushed and pulled on front of BV. BTW, on the BV, just below where the bills go in it I found what looks like a latch that I could push down--I did try to pull on the BV but was afraid to pull on it too hard.[/size][size=78%] [/size]
I know the cash can takes a good pull to remove it and special angle when it goes back in.
:Scratch-Head:
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Here's a pic of mine. The little lever pushes down to remove the b/v. Push down and pull. Cowboy wanted you to disconnect the wiring harness and restart the machine.
Turn off before and start up after disconnect.
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Sry, somehow I deleted part of my last reply.
I tried disconnecting all three plugs in the back of Cash Can--changed nothing--get same msg.
Will mess with BV tonight.
TKS, I'll update afterwards
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Sry, somehow I deleted part of my last reply.
I tried disconnecting all three plugs in the back of Cash Can--changed nothing--get same msg.
Will mess with BV tonight.
TKS, I'll update afterwards
OK let's see what we have here. You disconnected the b/v harness and started the machine and it's giving you the b/v comm failure error? Did you try opening and closing the door and latching it a couple of times to try and clear the error? It still could have stacked errors uncleared. We'll get to the bottom of this yet.
Dave
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Earlier I pulled the bill stacker (BS) out and found 2 switch heads at the back on the top of can--I put tape on both of them the,put the BS back in and started--still had the "BV comm" and now had a "BS Full" error msg. When I had the BS out I noted what was a plastic tooth looking part that appeared to be missing--this is on top of the BS where the bills go in. I removed tape, restarted and just got the"BV Comm" msg.
Fast forward to last night I start up machine, get "BV COMM"msg ,open main door, open cash can and pull out and reinsert it,as I lock door to BS I here the typical reset going on, I close and locked main door and get the the "Insert Ticket or Bill Face Up"light come on :applause:
I've started & played it now a number of times and all is good--well not really. Now I wounder if I should start looking for a spare bill stacker or BV or both?
Regardless,it's working and I thank each of you for your inputs and encouragement.
Salute :thank_you:
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I have extras of each. Great you got it going. Glad you stuck with it. And you didn't get discouraged. Yeah extras on those parts never hurt and help make a diagnosis much quicker. Enjoy your machine!
Dave
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Cobra you might want to mark your post as Topic Solved so everyone will know you got it fixed. :cool_thumb_up: