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BB3 Games Playing On BB1 Conversion To BB2
« on: February 22, 2016, 02:49:18 PM »
For those of you Interested:
Could it be done? That question bugged me for some time. I got a lot of "definitive maybes". Jim Masonis was pretty sure it could be done so I started buying the parts I needed some time ago.

With that being said many, many thanks and Kudos to Jeff (Idesign) for figuring it out.

Here's what I needed for parts Initially

Top Monitor that had a DVI Port.
BB2 Power supply
Emotive Light Box
Whatever special cables are needed.
And of course a BB3 CPU 3.2

Jeff was kind enough to take on this challenge. What he discovered was, that a BB2 Power supply was not needed however, another BB1 power supply was. It sounded like a BB2 power supply could be used but the Remote switch may have been a challenge.

Jeff was able to add the BB1 PS and make a cable so the BB1 PS and BB3 CPU connected with power. He made me a splitter cable for the Emotive Light Box since I did not have a Power Slot open. He tried all of this on his BB1 Conversion and it worked. He made up the Cables for me and YES it works. I have attached some pictures. First picture shows Gorilla Chief II. Second Picture shows Gremlins on regular dual 22s. Third photo shows Gremlins with 32" vertical monitor. Photo 4 shows Emotive Light box and cables.  Photo 5 shows Power Cable from BB1 PS to BB3 CPU 3.2

I am sure there is something I forgot but there it is for those of you Interested. Thanks again JEFF!!
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Re: BB3 Games Playing On BB1 Conversion To BB2
« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2016, 04:06:02 PM »
Emotive Light Box is not needed for games like Gremlins that use a vertical monitor.
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Re: BB3 Games Playing On BB1 Conversion To BB2
« Reply #2 on: May 18, 2017, 06:13:54 PM »
Great Topic, there is a way to by-pass Emotive lighting board.  By soldering a permanent jumper. This will fool the game into thinking there is an emotive controller installed saving on use amperage/voltage

 

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Re: BB3 Games Playing On BB1 Conversion To BB2
« Reply #3 on: May 18, 2017, 06:20:47 PM »
Jeff, Can you post the pin out for the cable you made for the BB1 so others can make there own conversion in the future.

I had made mine using an old Gen1 printer plug and repinned it so I could provide power to the BB3 using the existing BB1 power supply. It is the same size Molex plus as Power supply and backplain. I will take some photo this week and post. The cable connects to the Bulkhead Board.
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Re: BB3 Games Playing On BB1 Conversion To BB2
« Reply #4 on: May 20, 2017, 12:34:53 AM »
IF you already have a BB2 (not BB2e), do you need a different power supply/molex connection or will the one in there already work?
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Re: BB3 Games Playing On BB1 Conversion To BB2
« Reply #5 on: May 20, 2017, 01:26:57 PM »
To run a cpunxt3.2 box on a bb2 you mean?  You will need the power harness for the mpu box.
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Re: BB3 Games Playing On BB1 Conversion To BB2
« Reply #6 on: May 20, 2017, 01:28:20 PM »
Yes Rick. But I wont have to change or add PS?
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Re: BB3 Games Playing On BB1 Conversion To BB2
« Reply #7 on: May 20, 2017, 04:34:18 PM »
You dont need a new power supply. you use your existing one.  you just tap off lines coming from power supply harness to make a extension that will plug into your molex plug on the side of the BB3 CPU.

You also need a jumper in plug

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Re: BB3 Games Playing On BB1 Conversion To BB2
« Reply #8 on: August 14, 2017, 11:56:58 AM »
T,

What did you use for a top monitor?  Regular BB2 or store bought monitor? Looks perfect in there.

Thanks.

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Re: BB3 Games Playing On BB1 Conversion To BB2
« Reply #9 on: August 14, 2017, 03:09:10 PM »
It is the Ceronix model. Don't know the model # off hand. If I find it I will post it

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What did you use for a top monitor?  Regular BB2 or store bought monitor? Looks perfect in there.

Thanks.

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Re: BB3 Games Playing On BB1 Conversion To BB2
« Reply #10 on: August 14, 2017, 03:12:11 PM »
That's a NEC 32" vertical monitor in his picture, v322 or v323
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Re: BB3 Games Playing On BB1 Conversion To BB2
« Reply #11 on: August 14, 2017, 03:26:53 PM »
You are right Jeff the 32 inch is a NEC V322. The regular top monitor is a Ceronix  22 inch. Depends on what picture you are looking at. Obviously the 32 inch is hanging on a wall mount.

That's a NEC 32" vertical monitor in his picture, v322 or v323

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Re: BB3 Games Playing On BB1 Conversion To BB2
« Reply #12 on: August 14, 2017, 03:31:13 PM »
You are right Jeff the 32 inch is a NEC V322. The regular top monitor is a Ceronix  22 inch. Depends on what picture you are looking at. Obviously the 32 inch is hanging on a wall mount.

That's a NEC 32" vertical monitor in his picture, v322 or v323

For some reason I was thinking 32" because Gremlins wants a 32" unless Steve likes to twist his neck a lot.  :24: :24:
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Re: BB3 Games Playing On BB1 Conversion To BB2
« Reply #13 on: August 14, 2017, 04:12:13 PM »
I have a 32 for the Vertical titles, but I was wondering if the regular monitor was WMS stuff or BestBuy.............lol

I have ordered a NEC 22 incher  (16X10) to replace the Dell model I bought as it is a bit short for the top box and looks a bit funny up there. However, the image is gorgeous!!

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Re: BB3 Games Playing On BB1 Conversion To BB2
« Reply #14 on: August 14, 2017, 05:32:58 PM »
The only issue with the NEC is that is a TN panel, so it has a limited viewing angle.  But functionally, the games work great on it.
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Re: BB3 Games Playing On BB1 Conversion To BB2
« Reply #15 on: December 26, 2017, 12:25:22 PM »
Can someone make me a EL controller harness for a BB1.5 .
I have the controller but no harness.   No lights, at the moment, either.
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Re: BB3 Games Playing On BB1 Conversion To BB2
« Reply #16 on: June 03, 2021, 11:49:46 AM »
 There is a way to by-pass Emotive lighting board.  By soldering a permanent jumper. This will fool the game into thinking there is an emotive controller installed saving on use amperage/voltage

Can you give me the specific pin the jumper is connected to on J14 of the backplane ?
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Re: BB3 Games Playing On BB1 Conversion To BB2
« Reply #17 on: June 03, 2021, 01:34:02 PM »
There is a way to by-pass Emotive lighting board.  By soldering a permanent jumper. This will fool the game into thinking there is an emotive controller installed saving on use amperage/voltage

Can you give me the specific pin the jumper is connected to on J14 of the backplane ?



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