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Re: IGT S+ Newbie Code 61 Woes
« Reply #20 on: March 29, 2022, 09:15:11 AM »
In his post form 7:52 this morning he confirms that the insert light bulb was dead, he inserted a new one and the insert light comes one.

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Re: IGT S+ Newbie Code 61 Woes
« Reply #21 on: March 29, 2022, 09:18:27 AM »
Ok - I read it backwards then..... me bad.   :banghead:
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Re: IGT S+ Newbie Code 61 Woes
« Reply #22 on: March 29, 2022, 02:38:23 PM »
Good Afternoon!

I will try the suggestions from this morning as soon I have a chance, I was poking around inside the machine only to break one of the wire off the door optic sensor inside the machine below the on/off switch. I think I am pretty much done trouble shooting until that is fixed/replaced. I wish I could just hardwire and do away with the door optics and the BV door optics also but I'm afraid to attempt it and fry the board.

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Re: IGT S+ Newbie Code 61 Woes
« Reply #23 on: March 29, 2022, 03:56:34 PM »
Good Idea or Bad Idea????

While I await for my replacement door optics to arrive, I have an old IR remote kicking around I no longer have use for. I broke it apart and soldered it to the wire from the door optic (photos below). Im not sure which wire goes to which part of the optic but I assume its like a 12v light bulb?

Should I try it? or will I fry it?

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Re: IGT S+ Newbie Code 61 Woes
« Reply #24 on: March 29, 2022, 04:18:03 PM »
I suspect the voltage is going to be wrong.

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Re: IGT S+ Newbie Code 61 Woes
« Reply #25 on: March 29, 2022, 04:53:12 PM »
Jay I didn't even think of the voltage, I was assuming all IRs were the same unlike a light bulb. To clarify, the domed door optic inside the unit under the power switch is the transmitter and not the receiver which is located on the door its self?

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Re: IGT S+ Newbie Code 61 Woes
« Reply #26 on: March 29, 2022, 05:09:45 PM »
You've got this all backwards.
The door optic is an emitter optic.
If you view it with a digital camera, you will see infrared light emitting from it.
The cabinet side optic is a receiver optic...no light comes out of it....two totally different things.

Your remote control used an emitter optic.

You don't need optics.
Just add wire to the door optic wires enough to run it back to the receiver wires and connect them together making the machine think the door is closed.
You can run them to a switch stuck in an empty door hole on the side if you want? Flip it on and off like open/closed?
Depends on what you want to do until you get a new set of optics.

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Re: IGT S+ Newbie Code 61 Woes
« Reply #27 on: March 30, 2022, 04:10:45 AM »
I would prefer to just bypass it to avoid future issues. Does it matter which wires from one sensor to the other connects to? Green/Purple to the Red/Green&Blue? In addition to this, should I just go ahead and bypass the bill validator sensor also? I maybe having issues with it also. Anything else to bypass?

Super Thanks to everyone trying to assist/guide me through this repair process  :thank_you:

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Re: IGT S+ Newbie Code 61 Woes
« Reply #28 on: March 30, 2022, 06:15:53 AM »
Of course it matters which wires are connected!
If you touch a hot wire to ground, you will blow up/ burn out stuff...then you'll be crying!

Green to green is most important...those are the ground wires....connect those together.
Use a switch of some kind to open/close the hot purple emitter wire with the red receiver wire.
Normally, I install a cherry switch on the cabinet side near where the receiver optic was for this.

As far as bypassing sensors, you can bypass every sensor there is on a slot machine, but then it wouldn't be a real slot machine would it?

Go ahead and wire the bill validator doors' green wires together if you want.
It won't hurt anything....most, good slot dealers do that anyway because the locks are usually removed before leaving the casino, and the cashbox doors don't stay closed too well without a lock.
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Re: IGT S+ Newbie Code 61 Woes
« Reply #29 on: March 30, 2022, 03:02:21 PM »
Stayouttadabunker

Thanks for the clarification, I looked at the door bypass FAQ and the diagram showed a resistor parts being used and it didn't looked cut and dry as you put it. So I will run a wire and connect the green on the door to the green/blue below the power switch with a direct cable and run a second direct wire from the purple on the door to a toggle switch, then run it to the red wire under the power switch assuming purple and red are the hot leads. I tried a 12v test light to confirm which was hot and didn't get a readying on any of the plug wires.

I looked for the bill validator green wires and found a wrapped group of green wires directly behind the bill validator box. Below is photo of what I think you were referring to and it appears the wires are crimped together already. Will look further into it once the door optics portion is complete first. Still taking baby steps  :dancing_2:

I also noticed a two wire/connector just hanging in the back, not sure if its meant to be connected or not, see photo.

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Re: IGT S+ Newbie Code 61 Woes
« Reply #30 on: March 30, 2022, 05:24:22 PM »
***** DOOR OPTICS BYPASS UPDATE *****

Completed the doors optics bypass as described. Good News "NO SMOKE" bad news I can't get past the 61-1 now after turning the jackpot key once. Both red & white dome lights now blinking.

Any suggestions? Did I take a baby step backwards?

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Re: IGT S+ Newbie Code 61 Woes
« Reply #31 on: March 30, 2022, 05:49:06 PM »
That's the problem with a bypass sometimes on an S+ with certain SP chips.
Also why you didn't get a reading when you were looking on the plug wires.
It's not as high as 12vdc....it's lower than that really.
Anyways, I've had a door optic bypass on my machine for about 15 years without ever having a problem?

Anyways, the green wires with the wire crimp on the end is okay in your first photo.
Those used to run to a small tiny microswitch on the casbox door.

In the 2nd photo, you need to turn off the power and pull up on whatever is caught in MPU tray.
Hard to tell in your small photos but I think it's blue and yellow wires?
Let's hope it's not pinched and grounding out on the MPU tray!

On your other question...Did you CLOSE THE DOOR before you turned the reset key?
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Re: IGT S+ Newbie Code 61 Woes
« Reply #32 on: March 31, 2022, 03:43:32 AM »
Bummer the optics bypass won't work on my S+ machine. Guess I'm at a standstill until my new optic sensors arrive. Will the newer style S2000 optic sensors work? I see more of those around than the S+ versions to order.

I pulled up the wires pinched in the MPU tray and they don't appear to have been cut to short out.

I did tried the reset both ways, with the door open and also closed and the bypass key won't advance the 61-1 code.

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Re: IGT S+ Newbie Code 61 Woes
« Reply #33 on: March 31, 2022, 05:07:42 AM »
Post a link to which optics you are looking at exactly.
Observe how the wires are going into the 2-pin Molex housing connector on the photos of the ones that you're seeing for sale.
You will notice one side of the connector housing is "pointy".

You need to show me this "bypass key" ???
There's no such thing as that unless you wired up the red and purple wires to a switch that has a key? lol
What did you do?
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Re: IGT S+ Newbie Code 61 Woes
« Reply #34 on: March 31, 2022, 08:19:03 AM »
Sorry with my bad verbiage, I meant to say jackpot key not bypass key.

I didn’t have a switch handy at home so I just did a direct wire run for the door optics. I ran a solo green wire from one green plug to the other and ran a solo red wire from the purple to the combo green/blue wire.

I can provide photos later this afternoon once I get home from work.

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Re: IGT S+ Newbie Code 61 Woes
« Reply #35 on: March 31, 2022, 09:09:23 AM »
Assuming you have this all wired correctly .....and the guys helping you will get you sorted..... on that.

From the perspective of resetting things - changing settings etc, you can't do any of that with the door closed.
So you do need a switch or a way to quick disconnect your wires so that the machine knows the door is open, and then closed again.

Ie you get an error, you open the door, press the white button a couple of times, close the door and turn the JP reset key.
If the machine has never sensed the door being open then the white button is going to do nothing for you.
Your just essentially turning the jackpot reset key with the door closed - which is going to do nothing for you either.

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Re: IGT S+ Newbie Code 61 Woes
« Reply #36 on: March 31, 2022, 09:37:00 AM »
Thanks Jay!

The switch makes complete sense now. I will incorporate it into the wiring and report back with an update.

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Re: IGT S+ Newbie Code 61 Woes
« Reply #37 on: March 31, 2022, 09:39:43 AM »
oh boy...please re-read my Reply #28 from yesterday morning at 8:15am.
I said that you need to put a switch in between the red and purple wires. 

Basically, turning the jackpot key with the door closed ALL THE TIME, only gets you into the accounting system mode of the machine.
That's why I said you need to put a switch on the wires....so you can simulate or fool the MPU into thinking the door is open or closed.
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Re: IGT S+ Newbie Code 61 Woes
« Reply #38 on: March 31, 2022, 04:52:48 PM »
***** DOOR OPTICS SWITCH INSTALLED *****

Installed the manual door optics switch to cut power to the hot lead simulating the door is open.  Tried the jackpot key and still stuck at 61-1

Took MPU board out and installed RAM clear chip again to start from scratch. Performed the clear process as written and noticed only the red dome light was now. Blinking at a medium rate. Reinstalled my SP chip back into it, slide the coin hopper back in, left the switch off to simulate open door, powered it back up, code 61 appears as planed, now white and red dome light flashing, pressed and held white reset button for 10+ seconds, heard a beep and now 61-1 code appears, flip the switch on to simulate door optic is closed, closed door and lowered arm, turned jackpot key once, 61-1 still appears and no reel spin after 15+ seconds.


Am I still having an optics issue? Could my hopper cause the issue? Or is my older SP731 chipset the issue? Or my non working bill validator the issue?

Not sure where to go next and not sure white the white dome light blinks after I press the white reset button, I don’t temper it happening before when I cleared it in the past until I had the door optic cable break.

Another observation, if I turn the machine on and get to the 61 code, close the door and turn the jackpot key, it gets me into a 0000 0000 code and with every turn of the jackpot key it changes. Not sure if this is good or bad but it confirms the jackpot key is working.
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Re: IGT S+ Newbie Code 61 Woes
« Reply #39 on: March 31, 2022, 06:09:39 PM »
Yes - this would appear your having an optic issue.
If your not getting the reel spin then the machine still thinks your door is open.

You could pull your hopper or your bill validator and neither would make any difference at this point.
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