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Author Topic: Coin Optics and Hopper Optic All Read Zero  (Read 23171 times)

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Re: Coin Optics and Hopper Optic All Read Zero
« Reply #40 on: April 21, 2018, 01:27:16 PM »
Could the wrong comparitor be causing me any issues?  The harness I have only fits the left one...These are the two I have:



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Re: Coin Optics and Hopper Optic All Read Zero
« Reply #41 on: April 21, 2018, 01:32:55 PM »
Every 16D I search for has green. 16A has a red light

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Re: Coin Optics and Hopper Optic All Read Zero
« Reply #42 on: April 21, 2018, 02:08:50 PM »
I just looked thru mine 1 has a green lite, 4 have red lights.  All have grey wires. (no green wires)

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Re: Coin Optics and Hopper Optic All Read Zero
« Reply #43 on: April 21, 2018, 02:10:41 PM »
Grey wires are for AC powered comparators, green for DC.
You have the correct comparator.
LED color doesn't matter.
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Re: Coin Optics and Hopper Optic All Read Zero
« Reply #44 on: April 21, 2018, 02:12:30 PM »
Test button on optics should work if comparitor is unplugged.

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Re: Coin Optics and Hopper Optic All Read Zero
« Reply #45 on: April 21, 2018, 02:15:33 PM »
See the attached drawing.
J10 provides signals and reads signals on the door, like the coin optics and door LED and receiver.
Make sure none of those pins on the backplane are not bent over.
Especially the one nearest the right edge of the board.
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Re: Coin Optics and Hopper Optic All Read Zero
« Reply #46 on: April 21, 2018, 02:36:39 PM »
So I need a comparitor with grey wires?  Both coin and hopper optics are getting no power. Anyone live near Central PA? Lol

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Re: Coin Optics and Hopper Optic All Read Zero
« Reply #47 on: April 21, 2018, 03:20:21 PM »
See the attached drawing.
J10 provides signals and reads signals on the door, like the coin optics and door LED and receiver.
Make sure none of those pins on the backplane are not bent over.
Especially the one nearest the right edge of the board.


My board is in slightly different order. I took the board out and it says Players Edge 2 on it. My j10 is along the bottom row

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Re: Coin Optics and Hopper Optic All Read Zero
« Reply #48 on: April 21, 2018, 06:00:42 PM »
Does anyone by any chance have the manuals for the PE+?

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Re: Coin Optics and Hopper Optic All Read Zero
« Reply #49 on: April 21, 2018, 06:33:55 PM »
PM me your email address and I will send you one.
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Re: Coin Optics and Hopper Optic All Read Zero
« Reply #50 on: April 21, 2018, 08:01:42 PM »
Ok so the Manual says pins on J50 should be 8 volts at 1,3 and 4. How do I measure these with my meter? This molex is super small

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Re: Coin Optics and Hopper Optic All Read Zero
« Reply #51 on: April 21, 2018, 08:42:18 PM »
with super small meter leaders or shove a small sewing needle in the same hole and measure across the needles.
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Re: Coin Optics and Hopper Optic All Read Zero
« Reply #52 on: April 21, 2018, 09:03:54 PM »
So i "Think" I am not getting enough voltage to the orange harness at J50...the manual states i should get around 8 volts at certain pins...im def not getting 8 volts...could that harness just be bad? 

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Re: Coin Optics and Hopper Optic All Read Zero
« Reply #53 on: April 22, 2018, 07:40:03 AM »
so im going thru the MPU and the Motherboard...I'm getting no resistance on R3 and R2...could these possibly be my issue?  I get the continuity on the backside of the board though...so I don't know....anyone know any one who repairs these boards if there are issues?



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Re: Coin Optics and Hopper Optic All Read Zero
« Reply #54 on: April 22, 2018, 11:32:25 AM »
I found this in an old manual for PE+ machine. What voltage do you get on the coin comparitor power connector on the left side of the cc-16, do you get 24 volts DC on the yellow wire?

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Re: Coin Optics and Hopper Optic All Read Zero
« Reply #55 on: April 22, 2018, 12:33:09 PM »
I’m getting 26v at the yellow wire on the harness

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Re: Coin Optics and Hopper Optic All Read Zero
« Reply #56 on: April 22, 2018, 12:50:36 PM »
That sounds like your wiring harness is good to the coin comparitor. Was the CC-16 coin comparitor you bought a good working one, or an unknown take-your-chances one?

Also, even if the CC-16 is bad I *think* your coin optics boards would work anyway. There are 2 coin optic boards, both facing each other. One board has the optic tx parts, the other board had the optic rx parts. The boards get power from the machine and when a coin or other object blocks the light from the coin optic tx the coin optic rx board detects that and sends a signal to the mpu board to add a credit. Also, the little switch on the coin optic outer board should add test credits when pushed. If not already done, maybe need to verify power is getting to the coin optic boards. Does it's wiring harness look ok?

Also, I think you mentioned earlier that you replaced the coin optic boards, or removed them and reinstalled them? I think there is a plate in between the boards that has holes in it for the light from the optic tx to pass thru. Plus there is a coin spacer in there. Did you get all of that assembled right, you don't have anything permanently blocking the optic tx light so it can't get over to the optic rx board? And there is a short ribbon cable that connect between the two coin optic boards, it is fragile and can get broken during handling.

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Re: Coin Optics and Hopper Optic All Read Zero
« Reply #57 on: April 22, 2018, 01:12:29 PM »
So here is an interesting one. I just plugged in the optics board and tested the boards harness and board while plugged in. I’m getting on some pins between 10v and 13v at the optics board. Could it be that both bords are just dead??

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Re: Coin Optics and Hopper Optic All Read Zero
« Reply #58 on: April 22, 2018, 01:38:50 PM »
answers to questions in reply#56 above?? - I'm on the verge of losing interest here.   :garfield:
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Re: Coin Optics and Hopper Optic All Read Zero
« Reply #59 on: April 22, 2018, 02:06:52 PM »
The 2 I have could very well be considered "take a chance" coin comparators..i don't have the correct harness for the one with the green wires so I can't try it to be sure...the one I've been using has the 2 grey wires.  The little switch on both optics I have don't work...but I am def getting power to the optics board as i checked each pin when it was plugged into the board...

 

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