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**Reel Slots** Gaming Machines => IGT S2000 and Vision Games => Topic started by: meatman1010 on March 30, 2017, 11:47:34 PM

Title: s 2000
Post by: meatman1010 on March 30, 2017, 11:47:34 PM
Hi, I got 2 s 2000 s  that come up ram error . The batterys are good. Will I have to do a 97  then a 17  and reset all the settings in them. Thank you
Title: Re: s 2000
Post by: qbert on March 31, 2017, 04:47:29 AM
If you just replaced the battery you should just have to turn the jackpot key about 3 times and press the button on the MPU when the display requests it. Close the door and put the latch down and you should be good to go.
Title: Re: s 2000
Post by: Retro tech repair on March 31, 2017, 10:00:35 AM
check that the battery is in the correct direction. and if your using a holder make sure its making good contact i see faulty holders all the time.
Title: Re: s 2000
Post by: meatman1010 on March 31, 2017, 03:18:38 PM
Hi I booted it up , made that noise ,sad ram error turned key , pushed button , it said please close main door, I did that with latch down fully and it is staying like that ..any ideas ..thank you
Title: Re: s 2000
Post by: qbert on March 31, 2017, 03:41:23 PM
It should have required about 3 key turns to get to close the main door message. When you close the main door then put the latch down the display should change it's message and start sequence through normal operation. If it does not change you may have optic alignment issues.
Title: Re: s 2000
Post by: meatman1010 on March 31, 2017, 04:41:50 PM
hi I think it is optic issues . I have 2 machines that are doing that. I try to aline them but still says close door and stays like that???? thanks...any other things I can try?
Title: Re: s 2000
Post by: cowboygames on March 31, 2017, 04:53:12 PM
Try bypassing the door optics. There's a sticky topic in the S2000 topic area for doing it
Title: Re: s 2000
Post by: meatman1010 on March 31, 2017, 04:54:36 PM
hi, should I take the optics from a working machine out and try it on one of them?
Title: Re: s 2000
Post by: cowboygames on March 31, 2017, 05:04:44 PM
Yep, if you have a set that's a good idea.
Title: Re: s 2000
Post by: meatman1010 on March 31, 2017, 05:08:59 PM
Thanks, I will try now
Title: Re: s 2000
Post by: meatman1010 on March 31, 2017, 10:34:33 PM
Hi, changed the optics from another machine and still it's stuck at close the door, all the conections seem to be good . This is happening in  booth machines, the triple cash and triple  diamond 5 times pay. Should I do a clear and  key  or just a key. Thank you .  I am really stumped on this .
Title: Re: s 2000
Post by: cowboygames on April 01, 2017, 03:03:34 AM
Have you checked the integrity of the wiring? You may have MPU problems where the green varta battery is/was mounted
Title: Re: s 2000
Post by: meatman1010 on April 02, 2017, 09:25:19 PM
I will check the wiring and connections .thank you
Title: Re: s 2000
Post by: jonm287 on April 03, 2017, 05:03:46 AM
S2000 door optics are wired in series with the belly door switch.  Before you start tearing into harnesses and swapping optics, just make sure that belly door switch is not loose, both wires connected in the right spots, etc.  Maybe try pushing the switch closed with the door open.


If you go into the I/O menu, under the cpu I/O, there's an entry for the door optic, normally it should show zero, and when you shine a flashlight on it, it'll turn to one.  That'll tell you if you have any issues with the switch or wiring.  Again, the belly door switch has to be closed or you won't get anything on the optics.
Title: Re: s 2000
Post by: Ken on April 03, 2017, 05:30:37 AM
Try closing the door while the alarm noise is on. If the alarm noise continues while the door is closed then it is the CPU board.
Title: Re: s 2000
Post by: knagl on April 05, 2017, 01:48:31 AM
Have you checked the integrity of the wiring? You may have MPU problems where the green varta battery is/was mounted

 :I_agree_1:

If the green Varta battery has leaked, the traces on the MPU board right under the battery are inconveniently the ones that deal with the main door status for the machine.

meatman1010: with the power off, remove the MPU tray and look at the small rectangular green battery.  Is it leaking, and is there damage to the board from the leaking acid?  If so, that's your likely culprit.
Title: Re: s 2000
Post by: meatman1010 on April 05, 2017, 10:56:40 PM
Hi, there's no leaking. I checked th voltage on the board where the battery is and it reads 3.6 . It says close the door and thats as far as I get . Even took power supply off and put it back on , check all connections.  This really has me stumped !,, thanks .don't know what else to do
Title: Re: s 2000
Post by: Jim on April 06, 2017, 06:35:05 AM
even though the battery isn't " leaking" , is there any green/ blueish-green crusting on any of the components around the battery?  if any white substance around the battery or on it?   if yes to any of these conditions, then you probably have trace damage to the board.  This is a classic example when there is damage to the board, you cannot get past the main door open prompt.  if you can get into the diagnostic test mode, (press the button on the cpu board and the left two buttons should be lit)  go down to the #4 test, get into the processor tests and go to the second test which is the main door test, if you have the door closed and the latch down and the "0" stays a zero, then you are not getting the door optic signal. 

you will have to replace both of your boards to get your machines fixed. no way around it, other than fix the damage yourself. there was a new post yesterday explaining how to do this.

Jim 
Title: Re: s 2000
Post by: rokgpsman on April 06, 2017, 08:42:15 AM
yes, someone may have replaced the battery and it checks good, but the board could still have battery leakage damage from a previous battery.

Post a photo of the board area near the battery.

 
Title: Re: s 2000
Post by: meatman1010 on April 06, 2017, 06:41:44 PM
hi here are some pics. I resoderd . on top and bottom reads 3.6
Title: Re: s 2000
Post by: meatman1010 on April 06, 2017, 06:50:18 PM
another pic of bottom
Title: Re: s 2000
Post by: rokgpsman on April 06, 2017, 06:55:58 PM
Ha! I think all of those last 4 photos are the same photo, they have the same filename and look like the same view of the board.


Mod. Note: You were right, removed 3 of them.
Title: Re: s 2000
Post by: qbert on April 06, 2017, 06:56:42 PM
We need to see where the other battery was on the board . That is where the problem usually resides
Title: Re: s 2000
Post by: meatman1010 on April 06, 2017, 07:08:39 PM
Sooty ,I can't see any other battery. Can you tell me where it is..
Title: Re: s 2000
Post by: qbert on April 06, 2017, 07:13:42 PM
It probably has been removed already.  It would have been by the large coil on the same side of the board where your other battery is. This is the area we need to see
Title: Re: s 2000
Post by: meatman1010 on April 06, 2017, 07:19:32 PM
hi so your talking right here
Title: Re: s 2000
Post by: qbert on April 06, 2017, 07:24:36 PM
No red coil by the connectors that plug into the mother board. Sorry I can't post pictures right now
Title: Re: s 2000
Post by: meatman1010 on April 06, 2017, 07:27:07 PM
oh that big black thing...how you get it off
Title: Re: s 2000
Post by: qbert on April 06, 2017, 07:29:21 PM
Not the chip just the board it will have a white rectangle where the battery used to be . It labeled BT2
Title: Re: s 2000
Post by: meatman1010 on April 06, 2017, 07:34:53 PM
hi. just took a picture.. in here?? thank you..
Title: Re: s 2000
Post by: meatman1010 on April 06, 2017, 07:37:41 PM
sorry wrong pic...
Title: Re: s 2000
Post by: meatman1010 on April 06, 2017, 07:42:55 PM
bt2   theres nothing there ...how did it work before and not now...
Title: Re: s 2000
Post by: qbert on April 06, 2017, 07:46:58 PM
You don't need that battery for home use.
Bad news is the board looks like shit.
Those small traces are gone eaten up by the battery that used to be there
Title: Re: s 2000
Post by: meatman1010 on April 06, 2017, 07:47:53 PM
hi, so do I have to send 3.6 volts through there at the right polarity. thanks ,,im new to this
Title: Re: s 2000
Post by: qbert on April 06, 2017, 07:50:42 PM
You need a replacement board.
Title: Re: s 2000
Post by: meatman1010 on April 06, 2017, 07:51:15 PM
so I get a new board...pull the chips out??? thank you..
Title: Re: s 2000
Post by: qbert on April 06, 2017, 07:56:01 PM
Wait till you get a replacement then carefully swap out each chip making sure that you don't bend any pins and they are placed in the same direction and location as removed.
Title: Re: s 2000
Post by: meatman1010 on April 06, 2017, 08:00:03 PM
thank you ....im in Ontario Canada ..this should be a real shit show getting one cost an arm and leg...
Title: Re: s 2000
Post by: qbert on April 06, 2017, 08:00:36 PM
You will be moving chips at u44, u46, u19, and u21.
Title: Re: s 2000
Post by: qbert on April 06, 2017, 08:02:35 PM
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Title: Re: s 2000
Post by: meatman1010 on April 06, 2017, 08:07:33 PM
thank you here is my other board that is doing the same thing...what do you think...
Title: Re: s 2000
Post by: qbert on April 06, 2017, 08:11:48 PM
Sorry to say it does not look much better.
If you're good at working on boards there has been a recent post on how to modify a bad board having your issues but it's not for the faint of heart.
Title: Re: s 2000
Post by: meatman1010 on April 06, 2017, 08:17:19 PM
hey, thanks a lot, I get all the way to close door on both machines and then after that nothing happens. so you think this is the problem . I checked everything else , spent hrs. thank you ..
Title: Re: s 2000
Post by: rokgpsman on April 06, 2017, 08:18:46 PM
Hmmm - it was mentioned way back in reply #11 and again in reply #15 to inspect the board carefully for signs of battery leakage damage, especially in the area where the battery is/was mounted. Not sure how this was missed, it's pretty easy to see in your photo. The original battery called BT2 is not needed for the machine to operate for home use, someone must have removed it from your board. That makes it easy to see all these damaged board circuits. As you can see the battery was removed too late. All it takes is for one of those board traces to be eaten open and the board will have a failure.

Title: Re: s 2000
Post by: qbert on April 06, 2017, 08:20:22 PM
99% sure that is your problem
Title: Re: s 2000
Post by: meatman1010 on April 06, 2017, 08:28:34 PM
hey, thanks guys, like I said im new to this and maybe I didn't see things cause they were a little dusty? but when you look at the rest of the board ,it seems to be in better shape. im learning more in time. I got 10 of them and have had no problems with the others.
Title: Re: s 2000
Post by: meatman1010 on April 06, 2017, 08:36:41 PM
and I didn't know that there was a 2nd battery in them when they were used at the casinos. I guess this could cause corrosion quickly if the battery wasn't pulled out especially if it was dead.. thanks again..   
Title: Re: s 2000
Post by: rokgpsman on April 07, 2017, 05:40:34 AM
yes, that battery originally located on the board at BT2 is called a Varta battery (that's the brand name), it is green in color. It is notorious for leaking after several years and causing damage to the circuit board. The purpose of that battery is not needed when the machine is being used outside of a casino like in a private home. Any machine or mpu board you get should be inspected for this problem. If the green Varta battery is present then remove it. And check the BT2 area on the mpu board carefully for signs of battery leakage, sometimes if you catch it soon enough you can save the board by cleaning it thoroughly.

The other battery is needed, it is a "coin" shaped battery in the corner of the board.
Title: Re: s 2000
Post by: meatman1010 on April 15, 2017, 09:35:45 PM
hey guys, that board on reply 40 that I took a picture of to show you's, well I jumped the traces. 5 different spots and it came back to life!!! I cant say much for the first board. I think its too far gone. I ordered one from ebay. 65$. a 502 board with tray. is that an okay deal? thanks...   
Title: Re: s 2000
Post by: Amechanic on April 16, 2017, 10:41:19 AM
Good to hear that you got a board working. You MPU that you bought is about the going rate. Hopefully it was tested by the seller.
Title: Re: s 2000
Post by: meatman1010 on April 16, 2017, 10:20:18 PM
hi, yes the seller tested the board before the varta battery was taken out and after it was taken out and checked for damage. he says no damage at all and he put a fresh new battery in...thanks again...
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