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Title: Custom Mills 1960's era Reel Strips - Custom. Any suppliers?
Post by: Canufixit on February 19, 2019, 11:16:06 AM
Hi All,     


NEwbe here.    Tried a search with little relevant finds.   I have more info, but I'll keep the first post short.       Have 1965 Mills "century" Cabinet machine with a 1963 mills "777" high top style mechanism.   I have most of this working but it really needs new reel strips.   Current strips have no numbers/info/ID on strips.    Disks have no id/ stampings that I can find....    I do have the Reel codes etc.  but I cannot find any known strips that fit the reel codes.       


IS there a reasonably priced source/supplier for a custom replacement ????   I want it to look real good/nice but not trying to make a perfect match to the original ....


Thanks All !


SteveC  /Canufixit
Title: Re: Custom Mills 1960's era Reel Strips - Custom. Any suppliers?
Post by: 63mini on February 19, 2019, 12:46:53 PM

Hello,


 I am basically in the same boat. I have a Mills Diamond front and Jennings Chinese front machine that require strips. Below are two suppliers that I am aware of. Hopefully, someone can suggest some others. As the ones listed below do not currently stock the ones I need. The last one can make them for extra $$. Which will be my last resort.


 This site is not the best to navigate and you will have to double check your strips with the ones in their catalog.
 http://www.mrslot1.com/ (http://www.mrslot1.com/)


 This one is easier to navigate and they can make custom strips for you.
 https://www.slotmachinereelstrips.net/ (https://www.slotmachinereelstrips.net/) 


 Both of these suppliers sell on eBay. So, you may check there for your strips too.
Title: Re: Custom Mills 1960's era Reel Strips - Custom. Any suppliers?
Post by: Canufixit on February 19, 2019, 01:02:17 PM
Hi,


Thanks Much for the reply ....


MR Slot has taken a few weeks off and I'm waiting for him to return and reply.    For The Second Source listed,  I left a contact request in their site a least a week ago and still have no reply .....   


From What I'm seeing, the strips are going for around ~$30/$40.    Customs I assume will be more.   If I can't find a source or if It's over $80 I'll probably spend the time on the computer and lay out the strips myself and send it to a printer that can do 26"  prints ... 


Regardless, I will advise here what the outcome was so others can have the info ...


Best Regards
SteveC
Title: Re: Custom Mills 1960's era Reel Strips - Custom. Any suppliers?
Post by: speedbump on February 19, 2019, 02:12:04 PM
If its a problem with reel strip codes,  PM me with your email address and I will send you PDF files of old Mills, Jennings and Pace reel strip catalogs.
They contain  numerous sets of reel strips and hopefully one of them will be what you are looking for.  From them you can find reel strip codes.

 
Title: Re: Custom Mills 1960's era Reel Strips - Custom. Any suppliers?
Post by: Canufixit on February 19, 2019, 03:19:17 PM
Thanks Speed Bump !!!!!!     


I do have a number of references and more info coming in this week.   I do have   "Handbook of Slot Machine reel strips" by Daniel mead.   I can encode the strips I have but have no match  in the tables I have.   ...   



What Specs I have


1962/1965 Mills Compact. Open Front.
5 Cent.
Payout/slides (bottom to top)   2,3,5,4,4,2 (20 max nickles). 
No Jackpot mech in machine.  No Tokens, etc.


Reel Strips Fruit based with "777" and "BAR" payout.  (Bars say "Mills  Bell o Matic")
Per Daniel Mead book  Reel strip codes L to right as follows;


Lemon, Cherry,orange,plum,Bell, Bar, Special (7).
    0-28711-1
    0-71191-1
    3-07531-1




Payout chart on machine
(x= don't care)  C = cherry, o = orange, p = plum, B = bell,


Combo      Pays
CXX                        2
CCX                        5
OOO                     10
YES BAR 10
PPP                      14
PP BAR 14
BBB 18
BB BAR 18
BAR BAR BAR 20
777                         20


I have can supply full list of Strip symbols/ locations if needed ....
Title: Re: Custom Mills 1960's era Reel Strips - Custom. Any suppliers?
Post by: speedbump on February 19, 2019, 08:06:33 PM
Can you expolain a little more about the Yes Bar that pays 10 coins?

   


Title: Re: Custom Mills 1960's era Reel Strips - Custom. Any suppliers?
Post by: Canufixit on February 20, 2019, 07:59:30 AM
HI  SB,


The O O O is Three oranges, one on each reel.   It is attached to a 5 coin slide.   When 3 oranges are hit the slides pays the first two payout slides ( 2+ 3 coins) + the 5 coins for the 3rd slide (3 oranges ) payout.     Is this what  u wanted???
Title: Re: Custom Mills 1960's era Reel Strips - Custom. Any suppliers?
Post by: shortrackskater on February 20, 2019, 10:16:06 AM
Hi Steve
Maybe try Monti's slot shop. This is his Facebook page with his contact into and e mail address.

http://www.facebook.com/MONTISLOTS/ (http://www.facebook.com/MONTISLOTS/)
Title: Re: Custom Mills 1960's era Reel Strips - Custom. Any suppliers?
Post by: speedbump on February 20, 2019, 10:56:11 AM
HI  SB,


The O O O is Three oranges, one on each reel.   It is attached to a 5 coin slide.   When 3 oranges are hit the slides pays the first two payout slides ( 2+ 3 coins) + the 5 coins for the 3rd slide (3 oranges ) payout.     Is this what  u wanted???
No.  when you said "YES BAR" pays 10, did you mean O O Bar pays 10, or were you speaking of a Bar symbol with the word Yes imprinted over it paying 10?  This is what confused me.  It would make a difference as to reel strips and disk punch holes.
Title: Re: Custom Mills 1960's era Reel Strips - Custom. Any suppliers?
Post by: speedbump on February 20, 2019, 11:10:24 AM
If you are just looking to have your original strips reproduced, you might check with these guys
 http://www.caslotrestorations.com/support_pages/awardnpaycards.html (http://www.caslotrestorations.com/support_pages/awardnpaycards.html)
 

Title: Re: Custom Mills 1960's era Reel Strips - Custom. Any suppliers?
Post by: Canufixit on February 20, 2019, 11:57:51 AM
I sent a request to them through their web site a week ago....   No response as of yet .....    But Thanks !!!!  I'm still looking ....
Title: Re: Custom Mills 1960's era Reel Strips - Custom. Any suppliers?
Post by: Canufixit on February 20, 2019, 01:36:56 PM
HI  SB,


The O O O is Three oranges, one on each reel.   It is attached to a 5 coin slide.   When 3 oranges are hit the slides pays the first two payout slides ( 2+ 3 coins) + the 5 coins for the 3rd slide (3 oranges ) payout.     Is this what  u wanted???
No.  when you said "YES BAR" pays 10, did you mean O O Bar pays 10, or were you speaking of a Bar symbol with the word Yes imprinted over it paying 10?  This is what confused me.  It would make a difference as to reel strips and disk punch holes.


Hi SpeedBump,      OK I see my error ..... That payout line should be ;;;        OO Bar  (orange, Orange, Bar).    Looks like my spell checker change that line ....


Thanks
SteveC
Title: Re: Custom Mills 1960's era Reel Strips - Custom. Any suppliers?
Post by: Canufixit on February 23, 2019, 11:30:31 AM
Hi All,   


Still looking for Reel Strips.   But I believe I have all the info needed to get these made custom if needed.     Please note I had help from Monti Slots Shop https://www.facebook.com/MONTISLOTS/ (https://www.facebook.com/MONTISLOTS/)     


File Attached.   

20 Stop Reel Strips
MILLS Bell-O-Matic Compact Open Front
As Printed TOP to BOTTOM Reels Left (1) to right (3)
Reel Strip
Code 0-28711-1 0-71191-1 3-07531-1
Position# 1(Left) 2 (Center) 3 (Right)
1 ORANGE BELL ORANGE
2 7 CHERRY BELL
3 PLUM BELL PLUM
4 CHERRY CHERRY LEMON
5 PLUM BELL ORANGE
6 ORANGE BAR PLUM
7 PLUM BELL 7
8 BELL CHERRY ORANGE
9 ORANGE BELL BELL
10 PLUM CHERRY ORANGE
11 ORANGE BELL LEMON
12 BAR PLUM ORANGE
13 ORANGE CHERRY PLUM
14 PLUM BELL ORANGE
15 ORANGE 7 BAR
16 CHERRY BELL ORANGE
17 ORANGE CHERRY PLUM
18 PLUM BELL LEMON
19 ORANGE CHERRY BELL
20 PLUM ORANGE PLUM
Title: Re: Custom Mills 1960's era Reel Strips - Custom. Any suppliers?
Post by: speedbump on February 23, 2019, 12:44:06 PM
If you have Dan Meade's book cataloging all the different real strips then what I have won't help you.  If your strips are not in the book and your disks don't have code numbers punched in them, then your reels and disks were probably custom made/punched for the casino your machine was placed in.
As a side note, your strip combinations looked a little odd to me so I got out the calculator and did some work.  They had to he custom made and your slot had to have been in an establishment that was cheating its customers.  Based on the combination on your strips, you machine was set to pay back around 53.45% over 8,000 pulls of the handle.  This assumes they were using the standard pay table for winning combinations.  Most casino machines paid 70 to 90%. Unless those Lemons were mystery pays, whoever was running this machine was a tight bastard who was ripping his customers off.
Title: Re: Custom Mills 1960's era Reel Strips - Custom. Any suppliers?
Post by: Canufixit on February 28, 2019, 01:27:30 PM
I have crap luck trying to post stuff that does not get messed up ....I have 2 machines ready for reel strips but I just can't find them online .... I have Emailed a number of suppliers from EBay and other online sites. I have had a number of responses from kind persons sending supplier info - but have yet to be able to connect with the suppliers (no response to Emails, etc.)
Looking for the two following items:
Mills vest pocket reel strips - with adhesive backing. Not black background. Mills 1962 era reel strips - Custom . One or two sets of same strips. (do not believe these are standard strips - need to be special made ...)
Thanks All
SteveC

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Title: Re: Custom Mills 1960's era Reel Strips - Custom. Any suppliers?
Post by: speedbump on March 03, 2019, 02:27:40 PM
Go here http://www.casinovendors.com/search.aspx (http://www.casinovendors.com/search.aspx) and scroll down towards the bottom. 

You should see four vendors who manufacture custom made reel strips.  Maybe they can help.
Title: Re: Custom Mills 1960's era Reel Strips - Custom. Any suppliers?
Post by: Canufixit on March 03, 2019, 03:51:03 PM
HI Speedbump,       Link shows a blank search page - no mention of reel strips.  Searching for reel strips comes up empty ...

Title: Re: Custom Mills 1960's era Reel Strips - Custom. Any suppliers?
Post by: speedbump on March 03, 2019, 04:22:35 PM
Vendor matches for "reel strips" 
1.

 K&K Slot Graphics (http://www.casinovendors.com/vendor/k-k-slot-graphics/)  Cleveland, Ohio 
Quality graphics competitively priced. SlotGlass - Gaming Felt - Reel Strips & Inserts - Slot Toppers - Casino Backlits - Player Tracking Lexans - Casino Interior Displays - Sign Faces / Re-Faces - Conversion kits - Banners & Signs - TradeShow - Interior Decor - Commercial W...
 Categories: Glass, Graphics, Billboards, Fabrics and Textiles, Murals, Posters, Other, Promotions, Signage, Banners, Digital Printing, Digital Graphics, Large Format, Photographic Printing, Screen Printing, Digital Output, Exterior, Interior 
 
2.

 Macklyn Casino Services Inc. (http://www.casinovendors.com/vendor/macklyn-casino-services-inc/)  Grande Digue, New Brunswick, Canada 
Macklyn Casino Services is the most well known Interior Casino Signage Service company in Canada.  with technicians based a crossed the country Macklyn can provide top notch service at a reduced cost.  Our team has been in the Canadian Casino industry since the 90's and have...
 Category: Electronic Signs 
 
3.

 Motson Graphics, Inc. (http://www.casinovendors.com/vendor/motson-graphics-inc/)  Flourtown, Pennsylvania 
Service and Manufacturing: High Resolution screen printing and digital films to meet the most difficult demands. Design thru production.  Our specialty is quick turns without the sacrifice of high quality. Typical items include: Slot glass, reel strips, signs, collectables, ...
 Categories: Screen Printing, Graphics, Glass, Design, Repair, Refacing, Graphic Design 
 
4.

 Omnis Technologies, Inc. (http://www.casinovendors.com/vendor/omnis-technologies-inc/)  Las Vegas, Nevada 
Serving the gaming industry with graphic design as well as slot/video glass and reel strips since 1972, Jerry Dunn is all but legendary in the design of custom game themes and supplying product for any size order per the customer's requirements. We ship worldwide or free loc...
 Category: Glass, Design 
     
Title: Re: Custom Mills 1960's era Reel Strips - Custom. Any suppliers?
Post by: Canufixit on March 03, 2019, 05:38:48 PM
Much Thanks - I'm sure these will be pricey ....
Title: Re: Custom Mills 1960's era Reel Strips - Custom. Any suppliers?
Post by: speedbump on March 03, 2019, 06:53:05 PM
Much Thanks - I'm sure these will be pricey ....
Considering the others didn't respond, That's what you will have to pay if you want to make the machines work.
It looks like you've got three choices:
Pay nothing and let the machines take up space and collect dust for years.
Sell the machines "as is" and take a loss.
Pay the price and keep the machines or sell them.
I've known guys who've taken the first choice on so many occasions that over the years, they've accumulated an entire barn full of useless, non-working junk they casn't bear to part with because they have so much money tied up in it and they hope that "someday" they will find what they need to complete work on each item.  When they die, their next of kin has to pay a junk collector to clean the place out.  Don't be one of those guys.   


Title: Re: Custom Mills 1960's era Reel Strips - Custom. Any suppliers?
Post by: Canufixit on March 03, 2019, 07:20:08 PM
Thanks once Again .....


At this point I'm considering the following ....




  Purchasing a "close" related reel strip.  Brush up on my limited Autocad knowledge.  Scan the strip.   Run my old Autocad.  Do the layout for the strips in Autocad then Take the scanned images and create "Icon" of the symbols.   Set up snaps to place the Icons in the proper place and order.    Bring the file to Staples and have it printed on large Photo paper ..  I figure My time + $100.      IF it works I'd be more than willing to share the templates ...

Title: Re: Custom Mills 1960's era Reel Strips - Custom. Any suppliers?
Post by: speedbump on March 03, 2019, 08:39:59 PM
I've lost track of which thread this is and  whether we are talking about the vest pocket or the open front.
If it is the open front, your pay set up is fairly standard and there are no unique pay symbols.

See if anyone near you has a set of standard Mills, 20 stop reels in working shape for sale that are in good shape.  If so, try them out in your machine.  They should work.  If they do, buy them and your problem will be solved fairly cheaply.


Title: Re: Custom Mills 1960's era Reel Strips - Custom. Any suppliers?
Post by: Canufixit on March 03, 2019, 08:56:32 PM
Hi Sppedbump.


I've created the "symbol inventory" lists and compared them to all the know reel strips in "Handbook of slot machine reel strips "  by Daniel mead and these do no match any listed reel Strips.    It's possible that the reel disks have custom made w/ corresponding strips.   The Mechanics may have been swapped from another Cabinet as well.    The Current Strips appear to payout correctly and I can find nothing "Close" in all the tables of reel strips I have reviewed .  At This point I see two options - make custom by me or someone else ....
Title: Re: Custom Mills 1960's era Reel Strips - Custom. Any suppliers?
Post by: speedbump on March 04, 2019, 11:22:40 AM
Yes, it is entirely possible they were custom made.  Casinos and repair shops had disk stamping machines for custom jobs (I almost bought a disk stamping machine when I was in the business). 

As I mentioned in a previous post, your reel combinations only paid out around 50 something percent, which was way below what most machines normnally paid, so more than likely you had reels that were custom made for fomeone who wanted to rip their customers off.
Again, most Mills machines take the same, standard set of reels.  Unless you are absolutely set on reproducing the same exact reel strips, you should be able to get your machine working by putting in another set of Mills reels from another machine as long as it had the same symbols.  You don't have to worry about the order the symbols are in as that is taken care of by the holes punched in the disks.  Doing so will probably be a lot cheaper than having new custom strips reproduced.



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