If the machine monitor lights up and the game boots or at least "call attendant" flashes on the screen, and it has the hopper and all inside I'd buy it.Heck, even if the monitor didn't come on I'd still buy it if all the innards are in it.
Great fun when they work and they make great piggy banks too!
At the lower end of repairs your looking at a few fuses for the power supply.
At worst all of the guts need replacing.
The PE is not overly complex
- Power Supply
- Mother board (small board with molex connectors for wiring to monitor etc)
- MPU board (main board that plugs into the mother board) via vi an edge connector.
- Monitor
- Coin Hopper
MPU board and a mother board would cost $125-$150 or more..
Hardly ever see them here for sale. What part of the country are you in??
Model numbers don't help us much, but pictures do. Please post a couple of photos of the outside and inside of your machine. They have to be less than 1MB in size so you may need to resize the picture to post it.
The jackpot reset is usually a keyswitch located on the upper part of the right side of the machine.
If you have any credits on the machine, the setup options in the self test screens will be very limited. Make sure to cash out or play out any credits, then try pressing the white Self Test button inside the machine to access the various options. Press the button multiple times to page through the various option screens.
Also, please do not create multiple threads for the same questions about the same machine. I have merged the three threads you created together into this one. Thank you!
I can't get back to the original screen I was referring to where it was like a setup for the hopper type, coin type, etc. Now with the white button, I only get self test options. I had no credits on the game.
I can't get back to the original screen I was referring to where it was like a setup for the hopper type, coin type, etc. Now with the white button, I only get self test options. I had no credits on the game.
Press the white Self Test button multiple times to get to the various menus, including hopper limit, denomination, etc. The first time you press the white Self Test button you'll be brought to the Self Test Inputs page. Press the same button again and you'll get to Self Test Outputs. Press it again and you'll start getting into various settings screens, including the ones previously mentioned. Again, double-check that the credit meter is at zero before you begin.
Edited to add: you've posted pictures of two different machines. Which one is the one you're working on, and can you post a few pictures of the inside of the machine (with the door open)? My advice above applies to a Player's Edge Plus machine, but now I'm not 100% sure that's what you have. Also if you can post a picture or two of the game display and/or the self test screen you're seeing, that would be helpful in determining what model of machine you have and what the proper steps are to access the settings you are attempting to access.
First off - make sure you have NO credits on the machine otherwise the white button won't do much.
The white button is the way to move between screens.
The credit/spin/etc changes options on the screens (ie hopper test).
The jackpot reset is the key switch on the exterior right hand side of the poker machine.
Credits would be on the main game screen.
You need to play them away or cash out before you go into the setup screens.
When I was at the person's place I bought the machine at today, I pressed the white button and it was like a setup screen with a blue background. If you kept pressing the white button, it would change from Denomination (5 for 5 cents), Hopper (1000 which I assume is the hopper type in the machine), one said Credits (I guess that means the credits when you win) and some other ones I forgot.
When I was at the person's place I bought the machine at today, I pressed the white button and it was like a setup screen with a blue background. If you kept pressing the white button, it would change from Denomination (5 for 5 cents), Hopper (1000 which I assume is the hopper type in the machine), one said Credits (I guess that means the credits when you win) and some other ones I forgot.
The 1000 was referring to the hopper limit, set to 1,000 coins (ie. any win over 1,000 coins will be paid by an attendant -- any win of 1,000 coins or less will be paid out of the hopper). Credit/Non-Credit determines whether wins go to the credit meter on the screen or get immediately paid out of the hopper.
Your additional pictures confirm that you have a Player's Edge Plus video poker machine.
Since we're not there seeing what you're doing, you need to tell us very explicitly what is or isn't happening.
Turn the machine off, wait a few seconds, then turn it on. Are cards displayed on the screen and a "game over" message, or are you in the middle of a hand that needs to be resolved first? If you're in the middle of a hand, you won't be able to get to the additional settings you're trying to access. Please close the door, and if you are brought out to a screen with cards, ensure you are not in the middle of a hand by pressing the "Deal/Draw" button.
Please tell us explicitly, step by step, what happens when you turn the machine on.
For example:
"After I turn the power on, the machine shows five cards on the screen and a "Door Open" message. If I close the door, the "Door Open" message goes away, and the machine shows the five cards with a "Game Over" message on the screen. If I open the door and press the white Self Test button on the edge of the MPU board, the machine brings me to the Self Test Inputs screen. If I press the white Self Test button again, the screen changes to the Self Test Outputs screen. If I press the white Self Test button again, nothing happens."
That's the type of information we need. Alternately, take a video with your phone or a digital camera and upload the video to YouTube, then paste the link here, so we can see exactly what the machine is and isn't doing.
Also, since you recently moved the machine, I would recommend unplugging the machine, remove the hopper, remove the MPU board, and look for any loose coins or other metal debris (screws, washers, etc) that may have moved around during transport which could be causing issues if it's shorting out anything in the machine. Always ensure that the machine is turned off whenever removing or installing the removable MPU (processor) board.
Since you can go from the first screen to the second via the white button we know the white button works.
Not going to the third screen sure sounds like the machine thinks it has credits on it.
When the machine has credits - it inhibits any changes to the operating mode of the machine - such as denomination, double up options etc, but still allows self-test options.
Without putting any more coins in, door closed, can you hit max bet, deal and try and play a game ? hit cash out etc.
Assuming you didn't get to play a game ...... can you drop in a coin, play a game and make sure you hit cash out at the end.
Then try and see if the white button behavior is any different ?
Check the top of the main board, the MPU for a blue volume wheel. To the left of your hopper..
To go from screen to screen you should NOt be pressing anything other than the white button.
Depending on which game set your running there are 6-8 screens.
The spin, credit buttons etc are used to move around the screens to the various options then the jackpot key is used to activate or change values.
Ie you use the spin button to go down to hoper testbthen the jackpot key starts the hopper test and stops it.
I suspect having re-seated the MPU board fixed your white Button issue.
Now to your question: Can you do a multi-game ? The answer is yes-ish.
There are two kinds of MPU boards, one is standard and the other is called a Superboard.
You need to have a Superboard to do multi-game.If you don't have a Superboard its just a matter of acquiring one. I personally have 6 boards all mounted in trays because I don't really like changing chips. Your not the only one who breaks legs. :banghead: You don't have to get more trays but its really convenient to just slide a new one in.
If you already have a Superboard you can just change the chips to a multi-game set.
To tell the difference between a Standard and Superboard is relatively easy.
The Superboard has both a Program and Data socket and the Standard has only a Program socket.
A game set consists of 6 or 7 chips.
Program, Data, MXO, MRO, MBO, MGO, Cap(x) Rom.
With a standard game (ie Poker) you have 6 chips as there is no data chip. This can be used in either the standard or superboard.
MXO, MRO,MGO,MBO + CAP rom are the color chips and need to match the game you are playing.
The only catch here is if you are using the superboard with a standard game there is a small jumper at the end of the program chip that needs to be moved and you need to use a CAPX chip (vs CAP chip).
As you start to collect game kits you will find that sometimes the graphic sets are used with multiple different games.
With a Superboard game (ie double bonus Poker) you have 7 chips that can only be used in the superboard.
MXO, MRO,MGO,MBO + CAPX rom are the color chips and need to match the game you are playing.
For the Superboard there are several Multi-Game sets, I refer you to the IGT game bible off of the main page as to what games are on what set.
There is also something called a WING board that can plug into the super board. This allows you to use 5 games of your choosing. The only cavet is that the games must all use the same graphic chips or you need to put up with wonky colors or graphics due to the mismatch.
In case you are interested in burning your own chips (for backup purposes) the chips are all 27C256 except for the Caprom. The Caprom is a smaller older chip that is not made anymore and cannot be burnt in any modern burner. These are fairly common between game sets so its not like you need that many.
Go to the NLG Home Page - there are lots of good Vendors listed there. Here are a few
Program | Paytable | Percent | Name | CG Roms | CAPX Chip | Known Compatible PE+ POKER GAME |
XM00002P | P90A | 98.00 | Multi-Poker (Bonus Poker Four-of-a-Kind) | CG2174 | CAPX2174 | XMP00003 / XMP00006 / XMP000024 |
XM00002P |
XM00002P |
XM00002P |
XM00002P |
Combined average payout percent 98.14% |
Yes the board will work, and it appears to have the chips you want.
With regards to downloading the software and burning it.
You need to burn all 6 chips and you will need to find the right CapX for it.
Your 1371 won't cut it, and as noted before procuring blanks of the Capx chips are not easily found nor are burners that can do these.
Program Paytable Percent Name CG Roms CAPX Chip Known Compatible PE+ POKER GAME P251A[/t][/t] 97.40 Multi-Poker (Bonus Poker Deluxe)
XM00002P P90A 98.00 Multi-Poker (Bonus Poker Four-of-a-Kind) CG2174 CAPX2174 XMP00003 / XMP00006 / XMP000024 XM00002P P62A[/t] 98.90 Multi-Poker (Deuces Wild)
XM00002P BA[/t] 97.30 Multi-Poker (Jacks or Better)
XM00002P P323A[/t] 99.10 Multi-Poker (Double Bonus Poker)
XM00002P
Combined average payout percent 98.14%
Looks like I just picked up the same machine the other day. Mine has a bill validator and manufacture date of 12/95. It came with a manual that says Players Edge Plus service, dated April 23, 1993. However can't say for sure if it the manual that goes with the machine. It works, has one hold / cancel switch that works but the top frame around it is broken so needs replacing. The sound is very low. I haven't attempted to press the small white button to make any changes yet. Not sure how to exactly identify this one.