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**Reel Slots** Gaming Machines => IGT S and S-plus Reel Games => Topic started by: Telemaster on April 25, 2020, 12:09:41 PM
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Hello,
I recently started on a IGT S + that I bought last summer. I was told it hasn’t worked in years! I have replaced the battery, and fixed a few other issues. However, I don’t see any codes, and only get a 0 in the winner paid display.
Upon power up, the lights come on, the BV squeals a little, and the display shows a 0.
I can’t get any further. Anyone have any idea what to try next?
I have learned that by powering on, hitting the jackpot reset, and holding the “bet one credit†for a few seconds, it will let me spin the reels once. They spin and stop at the same place each time.
Any help or advice is appreciated!
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I assume you do not have a clear chip so I would pull the cmos chip for 10 seconds( it is next to the program chip) and replace it
You want to see a 61 code afterwards
If you get the 61 code hold the test switch until you see a 61-1 close the door and turn the reset key and see if it resets
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Actually, I do have the clear chip. I just haven’t gone that far yet.
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Don’t use the clear unless you have to.
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I tried the clear chip. Nothing happened. There was no display. I reinstalled the game chip, and am back to the same “0â€.
Any help or advice is appreciated.
No change by removing the cmos.
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I also attempted to use the set chip. Again, all I see is 0.
My guess, the MPU is not working correctly???
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What did it do before you changed the battery? Did you have an error code 12 or the same 0 in the display? After changing the battery did it go to the 61 error?
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Just a 0 before the new battery. I haven’t seen any error codes yet.
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No displays? Check your power cable from power supply to the mother board.
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They all look fine. I have a display tho, but it’s only a 0.
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What about your reels? Are they free spinning or tight with power on?
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I had not looked at your pictures. I was thinking the 0 was in coins played. Looks like it is in accounting. Open door and push little white button right next to power switch. Only half inch away. It may be on the back side of the power switch. Push it several times to see if anything else lights up. Keep pushing until displays go blank, then close the door.
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I happened to find another post here where a display only shows 0. I don’t believe his issue was resolved. Anyway, I looked at several of his pictures and happened to see that my MPU is missing a IC chip!
Maybe this is causing some of my issues.
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That's chip is optional on a S+. It's used for serial communications like a printer or player tracking. You have something wrong with your MPU board. If the battery was low you should have had a 12 error code. That 0 shouldn't be in that location. I'd look for a new MPU board.
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Thanks, yeah, that seems logical! I will update later.
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I assume you do not have a clear chip so I would pull the cmos chip for 10 seconds( it is next to the program chip) and replace it
You want to see a 61 code afterwards
If you get the 61 code hold the test switch until you see a 61-1 close the door and turn the reset key and see if it resets
If you pulled the CMOS chip, did you do this portion of the procedure that slots4home posted, that is, if you got the code 61?
Is your MPU firmly seated?
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No, I have not had code 61.
Only a 0.
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You said that you used the clear chip. You put the chip in, then pushed small white button, you should have seen the display count down 2 times. You do know where the little white button is?
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Yes, I pushed the white button, but no countdown. Just a 0 on the display.
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Just to be sure. You are pushing a tiny button half inch from the power switch not the big cherry switch. Others have been confused, that's why I ask
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Yes. I don’t have a cherry switch.
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I started thinking you might have an older S+ and thus the button is on the board tray.
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I see you have a side mounted bill unit, I would unplug this and try and get you machine doing normal things, I have never heard of the procedure that you used to get the reels to spin. ( turn the reset switch, press the bet one button) I see the spin button is lit, what happens if you press it??
pushing the white test button located mid way down the front of the card cage assembly does??
Jim
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Hi Jim,
I disconnected the bill Validator. Powered up, and got the 0 same as before. I pressed the white button and heard a ding. Display is still showing “0â€.
As for the reel spin, I stumbled on to that!
Power on, hold jackpot reset key for a few seconds, then there’s a click.
Hold the bet one credit button for a few seconds, then press spin reel.
It spins the reels and stops backwards (right to left) in the same result each time. I have since I posted, also noticed that if you press spin or pull the handle 4 times it will spin again (and every 4 times).
Thanks for your help! Any further suggestions?
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A normal start up for this machine is to just turn it on and see what happens, with the door shut and latched, turning the reset key will put you in the accounting mode, each time you turn the key it will display a new set of numbers and the number in the coins played window will change each time you turn the key, depending on you SP chip, after the number 7 it will take you back to the idle mode (or actual problem code), some SP chips require you to go to number 12 before you get back to the idle mode!. try this and see what happens.
If you can't get to that point , either the motherboard or cpu board have issues.
Just curious, what other issues did you fix after replacing the battery??
Jim
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The jackpot reset was missing, and the wires were cut. A lead was broken off the door optic sensor, so I replaced that. The candle was broken.
Besides that, just cleaning!
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Looking back at the picture of your board, I see there is no label on the game prom. Open window. Maybe it erased itself. The thing that throws me is the clear not counting down. How bad was the battery? Had it leaked all over the place? If yes, did it get on the mother board too? It makes no sense where your zero is. It should be in coins played
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After all this how are we just finding the the jackpot reset was missing and the wires were cut.
That was the process we were telling you how to clear it.
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The battery was completely dead. It hasn’t leaked at all. There is no corrosion. What you are saying seems possible, any suggestions as where I should go to buy a game chip?
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Slots4home
That was the first thing I did, before I posted here. Jim asked.
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I think I see a bent pin on reel chip
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Great eye Rocknelvis! I’ll go look in a few minutes. I can get a better pic too. Thanks!
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I read a post here from a few years ago where a member had the same 0 in the winner paid window. However, his machine did work. Mine doesn’t seem to do anything. I don’t think his issue was resolved.
So I possibly have more than one issue here. I am gonna look and take some better pics, Iwill post later.
Thanks!
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At this point it is chip issue or MPU issue. Your SP chip could be erased and SS may have bent pin
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http://newlifegames.com/nlg/index.php?topic=21001.0 (http://newlifegames.com/nlg/index.php?topic=21001.0)
Here’s the thread I had mentioned. I have tried pretty much everything you guys have suggested here.
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Therockinelvis,
I had a close look. No bent pins. I took a few pictures.
I’m thinking of trying a game chip next.
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the reset switch only has two wires going to it, and they are not polarity sensitive. the cabinet optic is a little different, make sure you got the right one, should have red and white wires on it. make sure the cash can door switch is also bypassed.
Jim
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Jim, Just above the SP and SS chips there are jumpers. Are they supposed to be on or off? What are they for?
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The jumpers should be set as in the pic attached. If you are using an old 256kb SP chip instead of the newer 512kb SP chip you need to move the jumper next to the SP socket.
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Therockinelvis! Thank ya, thank ya very much!!!
I got a new game chip and reel chip. I tried them today and YES! You were correct, perhaps this one sat long enough with a dead battery that the eprom erased. Game fired up as normal, and It’s working.
I got a few other small issues to work on, but I am going to tag this post as solved because the display is now working fine.
I guess I owe you a cold beer!
THANKS TO YOU ALL!
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:thank_you:
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A chip should never erase no matter how long it sits.
The little window on the top of the chip is however for erasing and that is one reason that people put a label on the chip. Of course labeling a chip is a good idea as they all look the same otherwise.
To erase the chip you typically need a Eprom eraser which is a high powered UVlight and you typically need 10-15min.
Chips can however go bad especially if they have been erased and re-programed a number of times. Given that there is no label on yours I will surmise that this is not a factory IGT chip, and someone burned this eprom for you which likely means that this was a used chip. They are not making these chips anymore so a good number are re-used.
EEprom (electrical erase) which yours is not can be erased in a few seconds, but again you need a Eprom programmer that can apply power to the correct pin.
Super glad that Jim figured this out for you.