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**Reel Slots** Gaming Machines => Bally Electromechanical => Topic started by: SPN on November 13, 2021, 03:28:39 PM
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I have finally received the Bally bingo 929-1 and I think it has the wrong reel glass and I probably need to find the right reel glass for this game.
The reel glass that’s on the machine right now kind of work but I had to rewire a couple of wires since the winner paid light and the coin accepted light was opposite and there are also other things that doesn’t make any sense..
There are two light that says winner paid inn the center of the reel glass, so that make me think that this glass is actually for a winning combination from both sides, left and right side..
On the right side of the glass it’s either insert coin or to play credits press credit meter that lights up depending on which way you turn the key on the right side of the machine, is the normal or should all the light stays the same either way I turn the key?
Except this little issue the machine are in pretty good condition and working good so far, I received it last week so I’m still new to the machine and so far I love it 🤗
Does anyone know where you can find how many games there are made of this Bally bingo or any other Bally em slot machines ?
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it's not the bally 929-1 glass, but the general layout is pretty close.
the 929-1 panels on the left were tilt and winner paid.
coin accepted/insert coin was left/right of your 1 token symbol.
my 929 is inaccessible for a few days due to construction and the schem I need to verify. afaik, you should be able to insert coins even when you have credits when playing in credit mode.
I think the light behind the "press credit button" panel is the "replay" light on the schem, so yes, it turns off in coin mode.
on the 929-1 glass, there's a panel above the "press credit button" panel that talks about max coins paid by the machine. That would be the "payout" light on the schem, so either the payout or replay light is on depending on coin or credit mode.
maybe your glass is for a 929. It had no hopper, so it was coin in and credit out/play. I don't have the schem for that game, so don't know if the lighting was different.
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That’s what I thought too and thanks for confirming that Wolf!
Could you please post a picture of the glass so I know what I’m looking for and what is written on each place on the glass, and another thing is that I also know a person (coos bingo ) his homepage that maybe can help me making the right reel glass for the machine :)
The machine is a 929-1 but it looks like the glass was replaced way back and it didn’t bother the owner, and I’m very strict to but it back to original, as good as I can..
Is the glass made just for the Bally bingo machine or can I use some other reel glass that look the same as the 929-1 reel glass ?
Thanks :)
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I'll get a pic in a few days when I can get to the machine.
the reel glass part number is G-388-3 and from the info I have is unique to the 929.
the bottom glass is supposed to be G-387-8 - says "bally continental" on it.
this looks right ... except the right panels aren't lighting or aren't visible at the camera nagle:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xw2nQagirSc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xw2nQagirSc)
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Sounds good and I’m looking forward to see how it looks and what it says in the yellow on the right side of the reels :)
I got an extra belly glass when I bought the machine and I think it is the one you are talking about.. G-387-8 but it doesn’t say continental..
It got the bell and a chime and it looks like the bell rings only on higher winnings, and I guess that’s ok :)
So I guess it will probably get very hard to find the original reel glass if it’s unique for the Bally bingo but I’m willing to pay good if there is one out there :)
Thanks :)
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huh ... my docs say the glass for the 929 is G-387-8
the one in my machine looks like the one on the flyer.
sometimes the glass part number is part of the screening on the back side near an edge.
your extra glass was used on the 917 and 949 (per the flyer for those games)
the 917 glass was G-387-1. The docs say the 949 was G-387-8, so the docs must be wrong for the 949 or the 929.
the one in my 929 looks like the one used in a 937, which is G-387-2
oh well ... at least ya can safely say that G-387-x is the size that fits in a 5 reel game :-)
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I took out the glass from the frame and it looks NOS and it also says 387-8 so I guess it probably came with both glasses.
I chose to keep the fruit glass that came with the machine since the other machine on the side has the same fruit glass and I think it looks better that way..
I have never seen a wide body fruit glass, how normal is that?
I have tracked down the original reel glass too and I was told it is inn pretty good condition..
He also have four Bally bingo machines if you looking for parts to your machine, just let me know :)
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it took me years to find the paperwork for the 929, and another couple to locate the reel wipers so I could replace the ones I had to make with generic wipers and acrylic sheet - you know how odd those things are :-)
someone has four of them? How much paperwork does he have? I'm always looking for the paper for the games that were made for non-USA markets
I'll have to pull my belly glass and see if it has a part number on it. I'd guess it's a G-387-2.
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So i guess I was pretty lucky since it took me just a couple of weeks to find it from I started looking for one, and that was around when you said that you had one!
Do you know how many there was made, is there a way to see that on any Bally em slot machines, since I’m a collector it’s fun to know which game are rear or not..?
I can send you his info so you can ask him your self and if there’s anything you need too :)
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sorry I didn't get access to my machine before the holidays, so it will be another week until I'm back home.
I don't have production numbers for the slots. I was told the 929 was a failure in the USA casino market and a lot of the unsold inventory at bally gaming in nevada were chopped up into 5 reel free spin "win a car" promotional machines.
I vaguely recall the inventory count was under 100 machines.
a lot of the more interesting machines were made for export markets - mostly australia and europe - so rarity also depends on your location.
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That’s fine, take your time and dont feel any stress about it :)
I have several project going on and the bingo machine not going anywhere, hehe
I know there’s a homepage called ipdp for pinball where you can fine any info for each game, numbers made manuals one so on..
It would be very interesting if there was something like that for the Bally em slot machines!
About the bingo machine, do you know why the bingo machine was a failure, hard to win higher jackpots or the look?
I like it and I have also seen different kind of the 5 wheel bingo machine, the one with the women in the top glass and one more with miner differents then the one I have, so I guess I need one of those too if I find one :)
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the main reason it was a failure is you couldn't easily tell from the reels whether you win or not ... assuming they stopped on numbers.
I assume the game was meant to appeal to bingo pinball machine players, but those folks stuck to those games since some skill influenced the outcome.
I guess the game was just way ahead of it's time ... these days with many payline video slots, a lot of people don't care how they won, just the total win while they hope to get a bonus game.
I will eventually be making a real web site for the EM slot paperwork, but don't have a lot of pictures. There's also a lot of slots missing from my lists that were export models, so it will take a lot of people contributing to fill in the content.
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Yes I have been thinking the same too, did I win and what did I win and so on…
I like the machine even more now after restoring it and starting to understand it, it has its own charm and a must in a collection if you ask me!
Im will try to get more info and schematics from the European export games and help you as much as I can, and let me know if there are any special games you are looking for..
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both my 921 have the second belly glass in them and both came on a bally token play
they both needed some work on them.the first one i replaced the lamps with led ones not over impressed with the result to be honest
the second i have left ordinary lamps in but these bally lamp holders are really poor in my book if they become loose and stop working it takes 10 minutes to work out the win line.
the second machine has /had payout issues overpays and random pays.i think the random pay was down to a diode on the card which i have replaced so far so good.the overpay is down to the coin kicker which is a mechanical problem as it is sticking sometimes in the retracted position.
in both machines i have replaced the fuses with mcb`s i find this a lot easier when there is a problem.
the machine glass has on the left side play one to six coins before pulling handle and below that tilt light and winner paid light
right hand side is a coins paid by attendant
the bingos should work always round should take coins whilst playing in credits and use credits when paying cash
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Does any of your machines have the same reel glass that I have or is there several versions, and is my glass still wrong?
Do you have any pictures of your machines too?
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im trying to remember how to post smaller file
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first pic you can kinda see what the text is. Left red panels are "tilt" and "winner paid"
I don't have a coin denomination in the middle circle.
second pic backlit the right side of the glass.
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Nice and thanks for the pictures, it all make sense now about the split thing on the right side on the reel glass, the light change up and down when I turn the lower key on the right side of the cabinet..
The glass I found in Belgian turne out to be in very bad condition, he said it got much worse when he took it out from the frame (see picture)
I’m thinking of maybe use the one I already have and just change all the wires so the lights ends up at the right places..
Did you talk to the guy too about his machines?
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i did purchase my machines from a guy in belgium it was a few years back he did have a third machine but was in poor condition if you look somewhere on here there are a few pictures i posted under an original thread
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It’s probably the same guy!
I’m thinking of buying the glass and let Coos make a copy, his very good and he have made several glass for me, always excellent quality!
He is selling out and parting up machines now if there is anything you need..
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I also wonder if any of you guys need a new (Repro) of the reel glass for the Bally bingo, since I will probably ask the guy who I thought didn’t have the right glass turn out to be the right glass, to send it to Coos in Holland so he can make it, and if we are several who wants it it might be cheaper too 🥳
Please let me know soon so I can try to make a deal with him
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I just found out that my hopper do a strange payout when I win 12 coins or lower, it’s starts and stops every second coins ?
And when it payout 20 and up it makes a little break every 20 coin, is that normal or why does it do that?
I can make a video if needed :)
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the 929 payout counter is mechanically stepped in coin mode and electrically stepped in credit mode.
in coin mode, the game uses the odds unit and odds follower unit to multiply the pay when 2+ coins are played.
the odds follower unit design makes the payout counter reset and the game pays again, repeating the process until the game has paid X times, where X = number of coins played
for example, play 3 coins and:
- win pays
- payout counter resets
- win pays
- payout counter resets
- win pays
the hopper motors turns off after each pay and turns on again after the payout counter reset, so the pause in pay is more noticeable when the payout counter wipers have further the travel when resetting.
if your payout counter wiper reset is sluggish, the pauses are also more obvious.
when in credit pay mode, there is no pausing. The odds follower unit is not used and payout multiplication is done by the odds unit selecting different cams on the odds motor to make the correct ratio between credits added and payout counter stepping.
the game should pay smoothly in credit mode and when 1 coin is played. 2+ coins played in coin mode and the game will have the stuttering pay.
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Ok so what your saying is that it’s suppose to act this way but I can adjust it so it maybe can payout little smoother?
I will send you a clip so you can see how my machine works :)