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**Reel Slots** Gaming Machines => IGT S and S-plus Reel Games => Topic started by: hawkypro on April 15, 2015, 05:09:20 PM
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Just picked an S+ Triple Diamond machine up. I just pluged it in and ive got a 3300 code. ( hopper empty). I dont have 400 quarters to put in the hopper but i do have about a 100 or so in the hopper.
Im new to this, so if i ask stupid questions................. :EmoticonHelp4:
I need to search the forums first....duh as i see many how have had this issue.
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Nice find!
Is that the machine you just got for $150 and it included a second mpu board? If so I think you did well on the deal. By now you've probably looked inside, and it is complete with all parts, including bill validator.
I was going to suggest you get a SET chip but I see in your other photo of the second mpu board you already have one. It will allow you to set preference settings and fix little things after the battery is replaced. I attached your other photo so it will be easily seen here in this thread. Others will correct me if wrong but I think the extra mpu board you got is what they call a "16 mhz" board, it replaced the older "10 mhz" board. But I'm not 100% on that.
Also, would be a good idea to inspect the mpu (cpu) board inside the machine to make sure the battery isn't leaking and causing damage. That's always a good idea on any machine that is new to you. Make a good overall inspection, look for things that could be a problem, like leaking battery, mice nest, corrosion from flood or other water damage, loose coins inside, some previous owner's hidden stash of stuff, etc.
Here is a good forum sticky note to read about common S+ errors and how to fix them:
http://newlifegames.com/nlg/index.php?topic=3005.0 (http://newlifegames.com/nlg/index.php?topic=3005.0)
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Yes it is.
The cpu board in the machine right now is clean. I do have these that came with it.
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Just for info, I think I read in one of your earlier posts that a different machine you were looking at might be an S2000 model but it turned out not to be. For me the giveaway on a machine being an S2000 are the 2 speakers mounted prominently on both sides of the machine, a little above the main door and the spinning reels. see attached photo.
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Were you able to clear the 3300 error by opening and closing the main door? Or do you think there was a win that the machine wants to payoff and it's wanting to satisfy that?
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If opening and closing the door and latching it didn't clear it. Check the door optics alignment. Make a mark on the cabinet with a pencil where the optic sensor is. Then make one on the door with the latch all the way down. When you shut the door and latch it make sure these line up. Good luck.
Dave
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I pulled the hopper out and it looks like the quarters are jamming between the shelf plate and pinwheel. agitator is a bit worn.
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Those have plastic knives, get the coins out, and some of the guys use a heat gun to warm and bend the knife back. If that works, lots of vendors on here carry knives I recommend buying a new one to back it up just in case. Man you're getting there good job!
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Lots of replacement parts available, hoppers are easy to fix.
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The worn agitator isn't a big deal since you probably aren't going to be running the machine with a whole lot of coins in the hopper. They aren't that much cost and you can always replace it if you want to but I'd bet you won't have a problem due to the old one, unless chunks of it are falling off and jamming things up.
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For the record, the 9 line triple diamond theme you got is one of the hardest kits to get for an S+, especially the reel glass. You did really well, as the kit alone is worth what you paid for the whole machine. The S+ is built like a sherman tank, it will last forever with minor maintenance.
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Thanks Shaggy,
is there supposed to be a gap between those two plates, its about 1/4 of an inch. and the pin wheel might no be the right size. I see coin marks on the pinwheel and the look like silver dollar size. Here is a pic.
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For the record, the 9 line triple diamond theme you got is one of the hardest kits to get for an S+, especially the reel glass. You did really well, as the kit alone is worth what you paid for the whole machine. The S+ is built like a sherman tank, it will last forever with minor maintenance.
Thanks and good to know, im glad i made a good purchase.
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No the gap should be a few thousands of an inch or just lightly touching. 1/4 is letting the coins behind. Easy with the adjustment and make sure the knife is "just" above the wheel. You'll see how it works. You're getting there. :cool_thumb_up:
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And yes you may need to change the wheel, if it is for a dollar coin it will be too big for a quarter. Check the parts and order as necessary big coins and smaller coins don't swap.
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i had pulled it apart in the pic, but the pinwheel spacing between each tooth looks to wide for quarter use. I think its to big also, from the wear on the pinwheel it looks like silver dollars were used
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That looks like a dollar sized pinwheel. Post a picture of the inside of your door, if you want to go quarters, you may need to change stuff there too.
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here is a pic
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here is a pic
Rickhunter - i agree with you on the size of the hopper. I think i will just order the parts for the correct size .25cent
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looks like a larger coin than a dollar, regardless, you will have to replace both the pinwheel and the shelf wheel to go to a quarter. also inspect your knife, if it is for a large coin you may want to replace it as well. there are two types of knives, one for small coin and one for large coin. they have a tendency to jam using the smaller coin.
Hope this helps
Jim
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You will definitely need to change shelf and pin wheels to work with quarters. Now that you have the coin jam cleared, can you hear the hopper motor come on when you close the door? If it is you can unscrew the sensor from the top of the hopper (just one screw) cut the small wire tie from the back. Leave your coin tray off, and close the door, you should be able to run the sensor far enough to manually run a coin threw the sensor and cash out the machine.
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Thanks Brian,
You just answered a question i was thinking of about.
Any of you guys have a suggestion on who to order hopper parts through? Or does that open a can of worms so to speak. lol
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I have the conversion kit you need. I will send you a PM.
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I was digging inside the machine and found this on the bottom. it has got a magnet inside of it.
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not related to the machine, at least not the parts required to function.
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I do have yet another question. In this pic it looks like im missing a ballast or a tilt switch? The black and white wires are connected to a 4 pin molex flourecent lamp but have nothing to connect to. The red and white wires are connected to a 2 pin molex and connect to nothing.
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That missing part may look something like this pictured below. If so you are right, it is a ballast for a fluorescent lamp.
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Rokgpsman,
that is what im looking for. Thanks for the help with that. I need to order that too. :thank_you:
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I was digging inside the machine and found this on the bottom. it has got a magnet inside of it.
I have seen the magnets used on some earlier S+ (maybe 93 - 95 machines) instead of using a micro switch for the belly door. You might want to check the belly door area for wiring .. for a door switch. For some reason I think they were AC machines.
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I was digging inside the machine and found this on the bottom. it has got a magnet inside of it.
I have seen the magnets used on some earlier S+ (maybe 93 - 95 machines) instead of using a micro switch for the belly door. You might want to check the belly door area for wiring .. for a door switch. For some reason I think they were AC machines.
Would that be something the casino itself added, there wasn't a belly door switch on the machines they were using or they had problems with the original switch for some reason? Maybe part of an extra-security thing?
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Rokgpsman,
that is what im looking for. Thanks for the help with that. I need to order that too. :thank_you:
That photo came from the Ohio Gaming website, looked like the right part but I wasn't 100% sure. It may be available from multiple sources, here's their webpage for more info for you:
http://www.ohiogaming.com/ballaststarterassembly.htm (http://www.ohiogaming.com/ballaststarterassembly.htm)
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I have seen those mounted on the MPU tray, I assume so the casino would know if anybody tried to mess with the board since S+ didn't have a card cage switch.
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I have seen those mounted on the MPU tray, I assume so the casino would know if anybody tried to mess with the board since S+ didn't have a card cage switch.
Did they wire the added magnetic switch in with the normal door switch so it would get sensed, or did they connect it to a different alarm method?
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I assume it was some other external alarm I never saw one that was actually hooked up to anything.
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that is exactly where it came from. I pulled that cover out and that piece fits perfectly back on the cover.