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Title: 809 REPAIR PAYOUT RECORD
Post by: RiseLikeRa on February 05, 2016, 03:36:40 PM
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I am no computer wiz so I had a friend make this table up for me.  I hope that it spurs a real wiz to make one up for the 873.  I write the payouts small and in pencil so that I can record many many cycles.  Play, record, adjust, repeat until you get it right.  Trying to contribute to the NLG EM family.


Ra
Title: Re: 809 REPAIR PAYOUT RECORD
Post by: Jon on February 05, 2016, 04:16:31 PM
you have an 8:09 with no Bells
Title: Re: 809 REPAIR PAYOUT RECORD
Post by: RiseLikeRa on February 05, 2016, 04:29:53 PM
Didn't I say I was no wiz.  lol  The symbols are not locked in stone since some have watermelons 8 balls, stars and other symbols.  I hope one of the other members can run with it.


Ra
Title: Re: 809 REPAIR PAYOUT RECORD
Post by: OldReno on February 05, 2016, 08:37:55 PM
You might also want to calculate your reel % and hit frequencies, which can be done without playing the machine.  And then you could compare to see how real your hits are....
Title: Re: 809 REPAIR PAYOUT RECORD
Post by: RiseLikeRa on February 05, 2016, 08:52:53 PM
Great idea Reno



Title: Re: 809 REPAIR PAYOUT RECORD
Post by: OldReno on February 06, 2016, 12:02:00 PM
Personally, I think everyone should map out their reel strips and pays for 'posterity'.
Title: Re: 809 REPAIR PAYOUT RECORD
Post by: Jon on February 06, 2016, 01:45:57 PM
old Reno can you give me an example of mapping out the payout percentage with the real symbols maybe I will try that
Title: Re: 809 REPAIR PAYOUT RECORD
Post by: OldReno on February 07, 2016, 01:51:04 PM
Write down the symbols on all your reel strips, starting at the split.
I usually go down the page for each, and next strip goes to the right of the 1st.
Then below write how many symbols on each reel (count em)
Then you will write out the pays, but I will tell you how to do % in a day or two, I have some other stuff to do right now.  Search old posts on doing %'s in the mean time.
Some folks here do know how to do these calcs, so maybe they'll step in.

Title: Re: 809 REPAIR PAYOUT RECORD
Post by: Jon on February 07, 2016, 07:12:47 PM
ok I will go get a piece of paper go back up to the shop and write those down for these reel strips I want to use I will include the blanks I think that is probably important right or wrong and I will come back and wait for more instructions and I got my e 1000 working today stupid me
Title: Re: 809 REPAIR PAYOUT RECORD
Post by: Jon on February 07, 2016, 07:43:07 PM
ok both my computers my printers are all in Michigan 2500 miles away we have to do this by hand how's this look for a start
Title: Re: 809 REPAIR PAYOUT RECORD
Post by: rokgpsman on February 07, 2016, 07:51:16 PM
Dang!
you need an apprentice or intern to do this for you while you play the machine. How are you supposed to spin the wheels with one hand, hold a drink with the other and also write the results down? Even the best of us can only do so much!
Title: Re: 809 REPAIR PAYOUT RECORD
Post by: Jon on February 07, 2016, 07:53:55 PM
yes I do real strip 1 is written down let's go to number 2
Title: Re: 809 REPAIR PAYOUT RECORD
Post by: Jon on February 07, 2016, 08:10:15 PM
25 stops on each reel 1718 real two melons on each reel 8 bars on each reel 14 blanks on each reel I suppose 25 times 25 times 25 would give you the answer for the odds of hitting 7 which would bell the good is that correct seems like all the good odds
Title: Re: 809 REPAIR PAYOUT RECORD
Post by: Jon on February 07, 2016, 09:44:11 PM
   The most common type of mechanical slot machine has three reels with twenty symbols on each reel.  To calculate the total number of combinations of symbols on this machine, we multiple the number of stops (symbols) on each reel by the number of stops on each of the remaining reels.  For a three reel machine with twenty stops per reel, we have 20 x 20 x 20 = 8,000 combinations of slot symbols.

            If a jackpot offered on this machine pays on 7 7 7 and only one 7 symbol is on each reel, then the probability of hitting this jackpot is 1/20 x 1/20 x 1/20 or one in 8,000.  If two 7 symbols are on one reel, then our calculation is 2/20 x 1/20 x 1/20 for a probability of 1/4,000 of hitting the jackpot.

so if my 5th grade math is correct I have 25 stops on each reel on a em machine
25×25×25=a1 in 15625 chance if I hav one 7 on each reel

If I hav 8 BAR on each real
There is a 1 in 30.157 chance
The math is
25÷8=3.125
So 3.125×3.125×3.125=30.57

so I guess I have a 30% chance of hitting bars on these reels one in three

seems like my mathematics  may be off on the bottom calculation
Title: Re: 809 REPAIR PAYOUT RECORD
Post by: Jon on February 07, 2016, 10:43:55 PM
http://www.coinopcollectorforum.com/viewforum.php?f=11 (http://www.coinopcollectorforum.com/viewforum.php?f=11)

just so we know I did not write of  this only the EM part that's why I am questioning my math
Title: FIXED 809 REPAIR PAYOUT RECORD
Post by: RiseLikeRa on February 10, 2016, 05:50:15 AM
Ok folks.  I had my computer person re do the chart and I have added the Bells.  Any takers for the 873 chart challenge?


Respectfully submitted
Ra
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