IGT s plus coin comparitor issue

[Jim]

you have isolated your problem to the CC-16! plain and simple.  you did this by checking the three optics, and by putting credits on the machine and playing it. the only item you have not checked or proven is the lock out signal that actually turns on the CC-16. you can't see this or check it with the door open. it is only sent when the door is closed and the game is ready for play. you might be able to check this. take out the hopper, remove the coin tray, take out the CC-16 , reconnect it to its harness, should have five connections, 1 and 3 should have a red jumper, 2 should have a violet wire,  4 should have a yellow wire and 6 should have a black wire.  the yellow wire is the lock out signal. now with the cc-16 connected to the harness pull it down to the opening where the coin tray would have been, with the door closed, if the lock out signal is there the red or green LED should be on, this will tell you the unit is receiving 24vac. if the LED is on and your coin is still being rejected, then either the cc-16 is bad or the coin sample is not being recognized by the cc-16.  either way you will have a 200 pound night lite unless you do something to correct the problem.  replace the cc-16, still not knowing for sure if the cc-16 will recognize your coins, or do as I have suggested (remove Q-4 on the optic board, if will not affect how the machine will operate) shim out the rake, and enjoy playing your game.
the encoder should be fine, as long as the surface area is smooth as not to affect the coin sliding across it.  the purpose of it is to allow a IR beam to pass to the other optic board.

Hope this helps

Jim

[Sunrise Side]

The coin guide at the optics is damaged. the optic board maybe damaged? The  coin guide definitely  needs replaced.

[Cashen87]

The optic board works. I have ordered a New coin encoder 5 cent from spininc now

[rokgpsman]

Sorry. I don't have US 5 nickel coin. I don't live in the USA. I live in Norway... we don't have casino in norway

The person you bought the machine from, what coin was he using in it? Or did he buy it somewhere and resell it without getting it to work? Since there are no casinos in Norway did the machine come from a ferry or another country? If so do you know what coin they were using when it was operating?

[Cashen87]

He bought from ebay from finbiro (97). They machine are taken € 25 cent

[Cashen87]

My coin comparitor

[Cashen87]

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[Cashen87]

  Jim

[Cashen87]

How do I remove Q-4 so I don't damage the optic board?

[Jim]

I usually use a small electronics pliers.  just place the pliers on the surface mounted transistor Q-4 and use a slight  twisting motion, the transistor will usually pop off.  just make sure none of the three legs are shorted together or touching anything else. the legs usually come off with the transistor. just a heads up to double check. when it is all said and done you should have just the three pads remaining where the transistor was located. I have done this to probably well over 500 machines and it does work and it will not affect your machines operation in any way.

Back in the day, in the early 1990's  casinos would sell machines, but because of the cost, they kept the CC-16. so we couldn't afford to purchase new CC-16's so had to come up with a way to use a mechanical acceptor or an Imonex acceptor. We discovered that in order to have it work with these type acceptors this component had to be removed. on the earlier optics you had to cut out a diode that was next to a 555 timer, on the next model you had to remove Q-2, and on the latest model you had to remove Q-4. removing this component removed the interaction between the CC-16 and the optic board, optics still function as they should. 

Jim

[Cashen87]

Thanks Jim 

[therockinelvis]

Jim, can you post a picture of the removal. I  have been coming across a few bad optics lately. Would rather do this instead of replacing.

[Cashen87]

Yes. Pitcher of the remove of the Q-4 have be nice   Jim

[Cashen87]

My machine