Best/easiest way to make Double Diamond more interesting?

[mdude]

So I am not a slot machine expert. I bought a Double Diamond machine for my brother a couple years ago and it's basically been collecting dust ever since. We recently managed to grab a Multi Poker (PE+) machine for $185 in pristine working condition so now we're trying to get a real game room set up. The only problem is the Double Diamond machine seems pretty boring now by comparison. I'm trying to figure out the best way to get "new life" out of this machine (hence how I found this site!) Browsing a little bit, I see that it might be possible to add a "nudge" feature to the machine by getting a new game chip or something?

Please excuse my ignorance. If anyone has any suggestions about the best way to make our Double Diamond machine a bit more interesting, it would be very greatly appreciated. Thank you!

[RB]

You can make a DD Haywire by changing to a Double Jackpot Haywire SS chip. I can give you more details if you state what the machine model is (S plus, S2000, etc). The SP chip or base chip might need to be changed as well.

[rickhunter]

You can change the kit on the machine and it will make it into another game type. You basically replace the glass, reel strips and software.


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As stated above, you can get both, the game Chip and the Reel chip for Double Jackpot Haywire, and will make your machine Haywire in certain pays.   To add judge feature, you will need to change out strips and glass to Double Diamond Deluxe or any of the other "deluxe" themes i.e. Haywire Deluxe, Red White & Blue Deluxe, etc.

[Haywired]

You can make a DD Haywire by changing to a Double Jackpot Haywire SS chip. I can give you more details if you state what the machine model is (S plus, S2000, etc). The SP chip or base chip might need to be changed as well.

RB bet me to the punch ...
 

[mdude]

Wow this community is super active. That's awesome!

So, it looks like I just found an interesting twist. I was reading through how to figure out what the different EPROMs were, and it looks like this Double Diamond machine actually has a Gold Mountain chip in it ("SS3441") which appears to actually have the same payout table even though the reels are Double Diamond reels.

It's an S+ machine, and the game chip is SP0731.

Let me know if that helps with being able to provide more guidance to this newb. Being able to change to a Haywire game with just swapping the SS chip sounds like the best/easiest option? (AKA, the suggestion that RB offered)

Thanks again!

[RB]

Gold Mountain & Double Diamond are clones. SP731 is for type 0,1,4,5 & 12 games so it would need to be changed as well. Haywire games are type 2 if I'm not mistaken.

[mdude]

Gotcha. Any advice on the best place to buy these EPROMs?

[Yoeddy1]

Sell it and get an S2000.  S2000 prices are really reasonable and the sky's the limit when it comes to kit swapping.  Different sounds, backlit strips, just an overall better experience.  I'm going on 5 years with my S2000 and I still play the heck out of it.

Thanks,
Jason

[Haywired]

Sell it and get an S2000  S2000 prices are really reasonable and the sky's the limit when it comes to kit swapping.  Different sounds, backlit strips, just an overall better experience.  I'm going on 5 years with my S2000 and I still play the heck out of it.

Thanks,
Jason

 Boy....That's some good advice for someone who is new to the hobby and wants to add new life to an old machine..  

[Yoeddy1]

Sell it and get an S2000  S2000 prices are really reasonable and the sky's the limit when it comes to kit swapping.  Different sounds, backlit strips, just an overall better experience.  I'm going on 5 years with my S2000 and I still play the heck out of it.

Thanks,
Jason

 Boy....That's some good advice for someone who is new to the hobby and wants to add new life to an old machine..

I guess I gave the wrong advice here.  How about this...

Don't ever consider upgrading your S+ because once you have it, you're never allowed to update it to something else. That said, by all means, put hundreds of dollars into kits that will give you the same sounds and more or less the same experience that you get today.  Buy extra parts for it too...MPUs, motherboards, power supplies, etc. 

Ok, all ridiculousness aside, I was merely presenting an option because I was in the same boat years ago.  I, like all of us, was new to the hobby once.  I bought an S+, was bored with the sounds after 30 days, discovered that the S2000 offered way more flexibility for my needs.  Therefore, I decided to move to the next level and invest in the S2000 platform.  Doesn't mean the S+ is a bad machine...just didn't work for me for various reasons. 

Hopefully, this answer is acceptable.

Thanks,
Jason

[knagl]

You should be able to get a replacement SP and SS chip to add the haywire feature to your S+ Double Diamond machine for around $20, so not a huge investment to put some new life into your old game.

You mentioned you have the SS3441 chip in your machine right now, which is a 2-coin Double Diamond SS chip.  To switch to the haywire feature, you'll need to pick a new SS chip.  You can see the list of available Double Jackpot Haywire SS chips for your 2-coin game (which is the chip that is compatible with your existing glass and reel strips) by clicking here.  The SS4696 is the highest payback chip available, and for home use would be my first choice.

As mentioned, you'll also need to change out your SP chip from the SP731 you currently have, since SP731 doesn't support the Type 2 (Haywire) games.  Any of the following SP chips will work for you:

SP1274
SP1229
SP1207
SP1146
SP1011
SP945
SP934
SP873
SP813
SP805
SP779
SP737

I'd start at the top of that list and work your way down with whatever vendor you contact, as the higher the chip number, the newer the chip.  Over time, IGT released different chips with newer features.  Generally speaking, the newer chips would have more features and options.  There are a few even older chips that would run it, but I didn't include them because they're older than the SP chip you're currently running (which is borderline old) and probably not really desirable.

Also, if your machine has a dollar bill validator, you'll want to pick up a SET chip to re-enable the bill validator, which will likely be turned off when you install the new SP chip.  A set of SET and RAM CLEAR chips again shouldn't cost more than $20.  You likely won't need the clear chip, but it's okay to have on hand if you find yourself in a pinch and need it.

As far as where to get the chips?  Contact any of the vendors on the front page of the site and they should be able to help you out.  Roz from Central Valley is an active contributor here on the forum, and I've personally done business with Jim at Blueridge and have only good things to say about him.  However, any vendor listed there should be able to help you and/or point you in the right direction.