STICKY SITUATION IN MY ARROWLINE

[RiseLikeRa]

Oh wise ones:


My wife was enjoying playing my Arrow Line while I sat close by.  I noticed the following would repeatedly occur.


1-Play game and reels stop normally
2-Attempt to insert coin to start new game and first coin fall through to the coin tray all of the time
3-Attempt to insert another coin is successful all of the time


My Trouble shooting
1-Took out coin mech.  Nothing looked wrong but I decided that as in most of life's activities a little lube cant be bad.  Lubed up but the same condition persisted. 
2- While the game was not coined I pulled the handle and I did not here the coin lockout coin move.
3-I noticed that the diverter flap that is actuated by the coil seemed to be magnetized and sticks to the frame that the coin mech sits in.


My "fix"  lol


Electrical tape shown in picture to keep the diverter flap from contacting the frame.  It worked perfectly.  However the tape is falling off already.


Has anyone experienced this condition?
Is there a more professional/permanent way to. Please excuse improper part names and the lack of little arrows in the picture.  I never learned how to edit a photo.

Please advise.  Thank you. 

[Amechanic]

Well this sounds terminal, I guess your going to have to sell me the machine before it totally fails to work..      This is what I would try. These diverters and coin lockouts tend to wear grooves into the back of the steel plates that matches the top of the coil.. Over time if they get back enough they can hang up on the wear mark.. Take it apart and take a file or emery board to the back of the plate and to the top of the coil to smooth them out.. I have also heard of the plates getting magnetized, and Old Reno once said how to correct that problem but I don't remember how..  I would check to see if your problem comes from the wear mark.. That is one of the main reasons the coin diverters buzz..

Gary

[Jon]

yes they do become magnetized take it off drop it on the concrete about 4 times from For feet up
and the spring is in the wrong location it is not getting enough pull on the Armature I will try to attach a picture sorry I am in the middle of moving going to be a real long two weeks will help you and Daniel as much as possible

the red line on the picture over the groove on the Armature is where the spring belongs when it is all the way against the housing it does not have enough strength to pull it off the coil I have had several do that

[Jon]

after reading again a six pack of beer if the coin reject solenoid is stuck in the corn will not return it is a problem it is not the problem you're having with the coin going through when it is stuck in it will allow you to add another coin it will not reject like it is supposed to so vs the name coin reject solenoid

[RiseLikeRa]

Thanks all.  I will take the spring off and drop the piece in the garage a couple of times.   I will also check for groves on the coilside.  Since the error is NOT fatal sorry Gary I think I will keep her. 

I will report back to the group perhaps as early as this evening.

Ra

[DavidLee]

So the first coin drops through the machine into the coin tray, but not on the following coins.
Coin lock out / diverter is not being energized. Could be a set of contacts not making a good connection.
Also the latch switch on the side of the reel mechanism is energized by the fist coin.
This is where I would start as it seem after the latch switch is tripped it works fine.
The odds unit also resets after the first coin, might take a look at the contacts.


Ra, I know your machines are well maintain. On the 809 when the hopper would continue to run, just a good cleaning on the odds reset switch fixed it right up. Either I missed these contacts or it took some triple action cleaning before continuity was re-established. Also did a little tweaking on one of blades in question.

[RiseLikeRa]

Thanks to the group once again.  I got home and pulled the coin mech, detached the spring and removed the offending part.  I did everything that everyone said all at once.  The back of the plate had a small 1 inch by 1 inch piece of electrical tape on it.  There were 2 small marks where the coil impacted it.  I added another patch of tape.  Then I took the whole thing into the boiler room and dropped it several time from exactly 4 feet high.  I follow directions well.  I also slid the piece along a demagnetization gadget purchased from junk sellers harbor Freight.


Once re installed, with the spring on the proper place, boy that spring is small, I powered up the game.  The coins were accepted without any problem at all.   That is except a  chatter that could wake the dead.  As I played about 5-10 coins the noise subsided.  I guess the diverter seated itself in the right place. 


All is well and the wife is playing the game as I type.  She claims that she is on a roll.  Sorry Gary the dead game lives again.


Thank you all, and Richard who sent me a regular email with great advice.


Forever grateful
Ra

[DavidLee]

Ra, glad you got er fixed, I guess I was off on my diagnosis. Have a couple of machines that really buzz sometimes. Next maintenance will take a look at the opposing parts of the coin diverter. As I've tried a few different lubericants none seem to completely stop the buzz.

[RiseLikeRa]

Dave don't forget the electrical tape.  It works wonders on our old EM's.  Thanks again.


Ra

[Amechanic]

All is well and the wife is playing the game as I type.  She claims that she is on a roll.  Sorry Gary the dead game lives again.

Well shoot.. Maybe next time.. 

Gary

[Jon]

Lol Gary

I am not a scientist but I do remember when I was a kid going to the gas station with a quarter when the pop machine would not accept it yep flipped it let it hit the ground and the coin mechanism would accept it no need for a fancy demagnetizer the few Metallurgy classes I have had in college you change the molecular structure when you magnetize something when it hits the ground hard it changes the molecular structure

very happy it is working

Gary I will be on my way on the 17th this place clears on the 10th I am off to New Life games to say hi and my mother-in-law's birthday and I will see you all soon in Michigan

[Amechanic]

Jon,  Have a safe trip and I have a few EM machines here that you might have interest in.

Gary

[Jon]

Gary I am already interested I am only bringing a few machines everything else has been sold I priced a Penske truck in Colfax where I left $3,300 in Kingman Arizona I get the same truck $1,200 I guess that means everybody is moving out of California I have to go to Bullhead City for my mother-in-law's birthday next Friday I might as well drive another hour and save $2,100 makes me wonder how I ever spent my whole life in this s*******

[Amechanic]

It's crazy the price difference  ..