IS there a way to hack the hopper optic from a s2000 to work on an S-plus?

[mrcrazy]

I have tried this a few times, & im pretty sure most of you will know what im speaking of. On the splus hopper the optic sensor has 3 wires where the ones on the s2000 go into a small board attached to the back of the hopper & have five wires!! they look exactly the same (except for the extra wires) & I have tried many times to try to hack wires to get a s2000 5 wire sensor to work in a splus hopper with no joy.....  I have plenty of the s2000 sensors but am out of the splus ones & was wondering if anyone has ever done it successfully......

Greg

[Stayouttadabunker]

Optic sensors are diodes...directional.
The power only goes in one direction to make them work.

One is an emitter optic while the other is a receiver.

There's no reason why they wouldn't work unless the voltage rating of the diodes' needs differs.

You must have one backwards?

[jay]

I think the S+ are in/out & ground.
Each time a break in the light is detected a coin has passed.
One of the cheating methods was to shine a very bright light into the slot either through the coin in or coin out.
The latter was less obvious to casino security. If you could blind the optic the hopper would continue to spit out coin until which point you either got a time out (coin-tilt) or the coins have been counted.
So you could turn a single cherry 2 coin win into an easy 40 coin win. Run the light for 20secs - turn it off for a moment, before you get a hopper error and turn it back on before it finishes paying, repeat.


The optics are probably physically the same in the S2000 but that other board probably introduces other security features like oscillation of the optics.
This way a very bright light would not have the oscillating pulse that the emitter is expecting and it would go into a coin-tilt or a security alert immediately instead of continually running and spitting more coins out. I am just speculating here.


SO... if you want to use the S2000 optic in the S+ your going to need to connect it someplace other than the 5 wire board. Which likely means taking it apart and soldering in all new wires etc. Probably more trouble than just ordering in a dozen S+ hopper optics.

[B-52BadByron]

Greg, I think I have an extra optic sensor.  If you can't get a fix, let me know and I will send you one.

[B-52BadByron]

Greg I found It, if you want it just PM me your address and I will send it.  Free.