Author Topic: Coin In Jam / Closure M (Read 23011 times)

qbert · « **Reply #60 on:** February 05, 2016, 06:52:53 PM »

Unplug the connector going to the LED display. (The one that shows winner paid, credits, and total bet.
Now turn on the machine. Are the button lights now out?
If yes let the machine continue it's boot. See if the error changes to 7 segment display mis match( you may have to raise and lower the door handle a few times).
If it does you have most likely found the bad actor.

Border01 · « **Reply #61 on:** February 05, 2016, 07:07:17 PM »

Unplugged it deck lights still on. What's next?

qbert · « **Reply #62 on:** February 05, 2016, 07:16:03 PM »

Try changing out the VFD if it is the type that has a ribbon cable going to a card on the door try swapping that card with the one from FP. Don't forget to plug the LED display back in.

Border01 · « **Reply #63 on:** February 05, 2016, 07:18:14 PM »

Sorry but where is it located?

Border01 · « **Reply #64 on:** February 05, 2016, 08:02:34 PM »

Here's a photo of the door

qbert · « **Reply #65 on:** February 05, 2016, 08:24:44 PM »

New style display doesn't have separate board. Swap out the display with the red caution warning. Note heed the warning only do with power off.

Border01 · « **Reply #66 on:** February 05, 2016, 09:17:19 PM »

Regrettably that didn't work. You guide me I'll follow instructions

cowboygames · « **Reply #67 on:** February 05, 2016, 09:21:24 PM »

Someone catch me if I'm wrong here, but if you have a bad part that kills your IO card and you change the card but not the bad part won't it just kill the card again? And make it appear like you were hunting in the wrong place for the problem?

qbert · « **Reply #68 on:** February 05, 2016, 09:39:11 PM »

Maybe I am assuming but I think your talking I/O cards. I believe he has installed them in his Frog Prince and they are working in that machine.
I'm also assuming this is a senet issue and I'm going down the list. Please chime in as I am rapidly losing my confidence on being able to trouble shoot Reel Touch. First Luvrenos duck and now this

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Senet list :
Door I/O cards 1 or 2 cards depending on Config
All player buttons
Comparator
Coin in Optics
Coin path solenoid either to hopper or drop bucket in stand
Player Display 5-5-2 or 6-6-3 denom touch pad has its interface chips on the 6-6-3
Display on left side of reels (4 line display or 9 line display)
5 line light box
Jumper in door harness to signal mpu it is an upright.

cowboygames · « **Reply #69 on:** February 05, 2016, 09:50:24 PM »

So if everything connected has been replaced would it be a bad motherboard? I don't think this has anything to do with it being reel touch, the problem and solution would be the same on a standard S2000. What about a short on the denom touch panel?

Border01 · « **Reply #70 on:** February 05, 2016, 10:18:57 PM »

If nothing else it has to get you thinking. It's all about the deck lights. The shouldn't be on?

qbert · « **Reply #71 on:** February 05, 2016, 10:37:41 PM »

I'm running out of airspeed, altitude and ideas.
Try changing the LED display (instead of just unplugging it.)
or trade whole display panel to eliminate the touch pad like cowboy said. What's next MPU?

cowboygames · « **Reply #72 on:** February 05, 2016, 10:45:41 PM »

The touch panel can be unplugged to see if it's a problem. The game will work without it.

cowboygames · « **Reply #73 on:** February 05, 2016, 11:03:31 PM »

Have you checked the chips on the legacy adapter board to be sure they are seated correctly with no bent legs and in the right direction? Those 1270 boards are a pain for putting the SB in because the socket is in a bad place right next to the tray wall. I always take the board off to mount that chip. That could cause the button light issue I think, but it wouldn't cause the coin in jam

cowboygames · « **Reply #74 on:** February 05, 2016, 11:04:34 PM »

I'm still leaning toward an issue with the motherboard itself or a connection issue between the motherboard and MPU

Border01 · « **Reply #75 on:** February 06, 2016, 08:55:08 AM »

Don't know if this helps at all but I noticed when I install the clear chip no deck lights are one. Same thing if I have the key chip in. As soon as I install the SB chip the deck lights are on immediately. Should I try the SB chip from frog prince?

Border01 · « **Reply #76 on:** February 06, 2016, 09:37:17 AM »

Or should I swap the mpu?

cowboygames · « **Reply #77 on:** February 06, 2016, 11:00:42 AM »

If you swap the MPU it should help eliminate potential problems albeit you'll get an error that the top box doesn't match. It should tell you whether the button light issue is MPU r3lated or not though

Border01 · « **Reply #78 on:** February 06, 2016, 11:15:56 AM »

I made a bad situation even worse. I pulled all the chips off the Munsters mpu to confirm they were seated properly. I inadvertently installed the game 1 stepper base into the SS U33 slot. Now all of the lights on the mpu are lit up and the bottom red light is flashing. Did I fry the mpu or the game 1 stepper base or everything? It did a clear and key procedure as normal. Gave the ram error and reset procedure and wrong EPROMs but absolutely nothing when the SB chip is reinstalled if that means anything?

Border01 · « **Reply #79 on:** February 06, 2016, 12:27:57 PM »

Some good news. I had a bent leg that caused the malfunction. I guess my stupidity did bite me in the butt. Back to the same original issue. Do I put the Munsters chips onto the frog prince mpu board to do the mpu test?

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