IGT Double Bonus Poker help

[jay]

First off - make sure you have NO credits on the machine otherwise the white button won't do much.


The white button is the way to move between screens.
The credit/spin/etc changes options on the screens (ie hopper test).


The jackpot reset is the key switch on the exterior right hand side of the poker machine.

[Wzrd0803]

It didn't like the attachments the first time.  Reuploading the last 2

[Wzrd0803]

First off - make sure you have NO credits on the machine otherwise the white button won't do much.


The white button is the way to move between screens.
The credit/spin/etc changes options on the screens (ie hopper test).


The jackpot reset is the key switch on the exterior right hand side of the poker machine.

I can't seem to get any other screen with the white button and no credits except Self Test Outputs.

[jay]

Credits would be on the main game screen.
You need to play them away or cash out before you go into the setup screens.

[Wzrd0803]

Credits would be on the main game screen.
You need to play them away or cash out before you go into the setup screens.

Had zero credits before pushing the white button

[knagl]

When I was at the person's place I bought the machine at today, I pressed the white button and it was like a setup screen with a blue background.  If you kept pressing the white button, it would change from Denomination (5 for 5 cents), Hopper (1000 which I assume is the hopper type in the machine), one said Credits (I guess that means the credits when you win) and some other ones I forgot.

The 1000 was referring to the hopper limit, set to 1,000 coins (ie. any win over 1,000 coins will be paid by an attendant -- any win of 1,000 coins or less will be paid out of the hopper).  Credit/Non-Credit determines whether wins go to the credit meter on the screen or get immediately paid out of the hopper.

Your additional pictures confirm that you have a Player's Edge Plus video poker machine.

Since we're not there seeing what you're doing, you need to tell us very explicitly what is or isn't happening.

Turn the machine off, wait a few seconds, then turn it on.  Are cards displayed on the screen and a "game over" message, or are you in the middle of a hand that needs to be resolved first?  If you're in the middle of a hand, you won't be able to get to the additional settings you're trying to access.  Please close the door, and if you are brought out to a screen with cards, ensure you are not in the middle of a hand by pressing the "Deal/Draw" button.

Please tell us explicitly, step by step, what happens when you turn the machine on.

For example:

"After I turn the power on, the machine shows five cards on the screen and a "Door Open" message.  If I close the door, the "Door Open" message goes away, and the machine shows the five cards with a "Game Over" message on the screen.  If I open the door and press the white Self Test button on the edge of the MPU board, the machine brings me to the Self Test Inputs screen.  If I press the white Self Test button again, the screen changes to the Self Test Outputs screen.  If I press the white Self Test button again, nothing happens."

That's the type of information we need.  Alternately, take a video with your phone or a digital camera and upload the video to YouTube, then paste the link here, so we can see exactly what the machine is and isn't doing.

Also, since you recently moved the machine, I would recommend unplugging the machine, remove the hopper, remove the MPU board, and look for any loose coins or other metal debris (screws, washers, etc) that may have moved around during transport which could be causing issues if it's shorting out anything in the machine.  Always ensure that the machine is turned off whenever removing or installing the removable MPU (processor) board.

[Wzrd0803]

When I was at the person's place I bought the machine at today, I pressed the white button and it was like a setup screen with a blue background.  If you kept pressing the white button, it would change from Denomination (5 for 5 cents), Hopper (1000 which I assume is the hopper type in the machine), one said Credits (I guess that means the credits when you win) and some other ones I forgot.

The 1000 was referring to the hopper limit, set to 1,000 coins (ie. any win over 1,000 coins will be paid by an attendant -- any win of 1,000 coins or less will be paid out of the hopper).  Credit/Non-Credit determines whether wins go to the credit meter on the screen or get immediately paid out of the hopper.

Your additional pictures confirm that you have a Player's Edge Plus video poker machine.

Since we're not there seeing what you're doing, you need to tell us very explicitly what is or isn't happening.

Turn the machine off, wait a few seconds, then turn it on.  Are cards displayed on the screen and a "game over" message, or are you in the middle of a hand that needs to be resolved first?  If you're in the middle of a hand, you won't be able to get to the additional settings you're trying to access.  Please close the door, and if you are brought out to a screen with cards, ensure you are not in the middle of a hand by pressing the "Deal/Draw" button.

Please tell us explicitly, step by step, what happens when you turn the machine on.

For example:

"After I turn the power on, the machine shows five cards on the screen and a "Door Open" message.  If I close the door, the "Door Open" message goes away, and the machine shows the five cards with a "Game Over" message on the screen.  If I open the door and press the white Self Test button on the edge of the MPU board, the machine brings me to the Self Test Inputs screen.  If I press the white Self Test button again, the screen changes to the Self Test Outputs screen.  If I press the white Self Test button again, nothing happens."

That's the type of information we need.  Alternately, take a video with your phone or a digital camera and upload the video to YouTube, then paste the link here, so we can see exactly what the machine is and isn't doing.

Also, since you recently moved the machine, I would recommend unplugging the machine, remove the hopper, remove the MPU board, and look for any loose coins or other metal debris (screws, washers, etc) that may have moved around during transport which could be causing issues if it's shorting out anything in the machine.  Always ensure that the machine is turned off whenever removing or installing the removable MPU (processor) board.

What you typed is exactly what happens. 

After I turn the power on, the machine shows five cards on the screen and a "Door Open" message.  If I close the door, the "Door Open" message goes away, and the machine shows the five cards with a "Game Over" message on the screen.  If I open the door and press the white Self Test button on the edge of the MPU board, the machine brings me to the Self Test Inputs screen.  If I press the white Self Test button again, the screen changes to the Self Test Outputs screen.  If I press the white Self Test button again, nothing happens.

I don't know how I did it or got there but I did random button presses and was able to see/change the hopper limit, turn on/off double up, change from sounds to music when you win, turn on/off the paytable, change the coin type of the machine (5 cents, 10 cents, 25 cents, etc.), etc so I guess my issue is resolved.  I just don't know how I got there.


I somehow got to where it said Hopper Test.  If I pressed any buttons like Deal, etc. it spit coins and did a hopper test.  If I pressed the white button, it led me to the options I was looking for hopper limit, double up on/off, etc stated in my last paragraph.

[jay]

Since you can go from the first screen to the second via the white button we know the white button works.
Not going to the third screen  sure sounds like the machine thinks it has credits on it.
When the machine has credits - it inhibits any changes to the operating mode of the machine - such as denomination, double up options etc, but still allows self-test options.

Without putting any more coins in, door closed, can you hit max bet, deal and try and play a game ? hit cash out etc.
Assuming you didn't get to play a game ...... can you drop in a coin, play a game and make sure you hit cash out at the end.
Then try and see if the white button behavior is any different ?

[Wzrd0803]

Since you can go from the first screen to the second via the white button we know the white button works.
Not going to the third screen  sure sounds like the machine thinks it has credits on it.
When the machine has credits - it inhibits any changes to the operating mode of the machine - such as denomination, double up options etc, but still allows self-test options.

Without putting any more coins in, door closed, can you hit max bet, deal and try and play a game ? hit cash out etc.
Assuming you didn't get to play a game ...... can you drop in a coin, play a game and make sure you hit cash out at the end.
Then try and see if the white button behavior is any different ?

I've done that.  I know for sure that there are no credits in the machine.  It's just tricky to get to the third screen.  Not sure how I got there.  I was fiddling with the self test outputs screen going from one option to another and turning the reset key on each one and somehow I think I pressed the deal, max bet, bet, cashout buttons and then "hopper test" showed up on the screen.  From there I was able to press the white button and get to the "third screen" with the other options.  They come up one at a time like first you set the hopper limit (1000) using the reset key to change the value, then you press (I think it was the deal button), then it switches to the next screen to change the denomination of the game (5 cents, 25 cents, etc), reset key to change values, deal button then turn double up on or off using the key to change values and so on.


I can't with any regularity get to the third screen or duplicate how I got there. For example, "open door, press white button, press deal, turn key" where that sequence will do the same thing every time.  I'm not getting that.  Only random button presses or turning of the key and I hope I can get lucky and get back there to the third screen.








Is there a volume control on this machine anywhere?  This thing is loud and I want to turn it down a little

[Amechanic]

Check the top of the main board, the MPU for a blue volume wheel. To the left of your hopper..

[jay]

To go from screen to screen you should NOt be pressing anything other than the white button.
Depending on which game set your running there are 6-8 screens.


The spin, credit buttons etc are used to move around the screens to the various options then the jackpot key is used to activate or change values.


Ie you use the spin button to go down to hoper testbthen the jackpot key starts the hopper test and stops it.

[Wzrd0803]

Check the top of the main board, the MPU for a blue volume wheel. To the left of your hopper..

No volume wheel, only a black knob to pull off the metal cover

[Wzrd0803]

To go from screen to screen you should NOt be pressing anything other than the white button.
Depending on which game set your running there are 6-8 screens.


The spin, credit buttons etc are used to move around the screens to the various options then the jackpot key is used to activate or change values.



Ie you use the spin button to go down to hoper testbthen the jackpot key starts the hopper test and stops it.

Not sure if the PROM data helps or anything.


Here is what I just did/been doing.  I put 1 coin in.  Hit bet 1 and then Draw.  Didn't hold anything so I would lose (like the picture shows).  So now I have no credits and I lost.  I open up the door and press the white button.  Goes to Self Test Inputs.  You can hit all the buttons there and they go from 0-1 telling you the buttons are working.  Press the white button again, it goes to Self Test Outputs.  Pressing the white button again does nothing!  The only way to get out of Self Test outputs is to close the door so the game resets and loads to play.  If you press the Draw button in Self Test Outputs, it toggles from one option to the next in the Self Test Outputs screen.


The only way I was able to get to the setup screen where I can change hopper limit, denomination, double up, etc was by accident and messing around with random buttons, reset key, opening and closing the door, nothing specific.  Just messing around and I got lucky.

[jay]

With the machine off you can lift the board out of the machine using the black knob. On the edge of the tray there should be a small dial that is the volume adjustment.
Depending on what position the board is in your machine the dial might be on the top and the black knob is in the center so you might not see it.


It should be obvious once the board is out.

[Amechanic]

If you want to adjust your screen and card size, lift off the plastic bezel around the monitor. Those are usually  held in place by Velcro in the edges. That volume adjustment know just barely comes through the metal frame. They are usually blue or black in color.

[Wzrd0803]

I don't know why but the white button is behaving at the moment, It is going from Self Test Inputs to Self Test Outputs to Hopper Test, then Progressive, Hopper Limit, Denomination, etc like it's supposed to.  I can even close the door, open the door and repeat and it's behaving right now.


BTW, found the volume control potentiometer and my ears and not bleeding now from the super loud noise.

[Wzrd0803]

Can you change a board (MPU?) or EPROM for multi games on this machine?

[jay]

I suspect having re-seated the MPU board fixed your white Button issue.


Now to your question: Can you do a multi-game ? The answer is yes-ish.


There are two kinds of MPU boards, one is standard and the other is called a Superboard.
You need to have a Superboard to do multi-game.If you don't have a Superboard its just a matter of acquiring one. I personally have 6 boards all mounted in trays because I don't really like changing chips. Your not the only one who breaks legs.  You don't have to get more trays but its really convenient to just slide a new one in.


If you already have a Superboard you can just change the chips to a multi-game set.


To tell the difference between a Standard and Superboard is relatively easy.
The Superboard has both a Program and Data socket and the Standard has only a Program socket.


A game set consists of 6 or 7 chips.
Program, Data, MXO, MRO, MBO, MGO, Cap(x) Rom.


With a standard game (ie Poker) you have 6 chips as there is no data chip. This can be used in either the standard or superboard.
MXO, MRO,MGO,MBO + CAP rom are the color chips and need to match the game you are playing.
The only catch here is if you are using the superboard with a standard game there is a small jumper at the end of the program chip that needs to be moved and you need to use a CAPX chip (vs CAP chip).
As you start to collect game kits you will find that sometimes the graphic sets are used with multiple different games.



With a Superboard game (ie double bonus Poker) you have 7 chips that can only be used in the superboard.
MXO, MRO,MGO,MBO + CAPX rom are the color chips and need to match the game you are playing.


For the Superboard there are several  Multi-Game sets, I refer you to the IGT game bible off of the main page as to what games are on what set.


There is also something called a WING board that can plug into the super board. This allows you to use 5 games of your choosing. The only cavet is that the games must all use the same graphic chips or you need to put up with wonky colors or graphics due to the mismatch.


In case you are interested in burning your own chips (for backup purposes) the chips are all 27C256 except for the Caprom. The Caprom is a smaller older chip that is not made anymore and cannot be burnt in any modern burner. These are fairly common between game sets so its not like you need that many.

[Wzrd0803]

I suspect having re-seated the MPU board fixed your white Button issue.


Now to your question: Can you do a multi-game ? The answer is yes-ish.


There are two kinds of MPU boards, one is standard and the other is called a Superboard.
You need to have a Superboard to do multi-game.If you don't have a Superboard its just a matter of acquiring one. I personally have 6 boards all mounted in trays because I don't really like changing chips. Your not the only one who breaks legs.  You don't have to get more trays but its really convenient to just slide a new one in.


If you already have a Superboard you can just change the chips to a multi-game set.


To tell the difference between a Standard and Superboard is relatively easy.
The Superboard has both a Program and Data socket and the Standard has only a Program socket.


A game set consists of 6 or 7 chips.
Program, Data, MXO, MRO, MBO, MGO, Cap(x) Rom.


With a standard game (ie Poker) you have 6 chips as there is no data chip. This can be used in either the standard or superboard.
MXO, MRO,MGO,MBO + CAP rom are the color chips and need to match the game you are playing.
The only catch here is if you are using the superboard with a standard game there is a small jumper at the end of the program chip that needs to be moved and you need to use a CAPX chip (vs CAP chip).
As you start to collect game kits you will find that sometimes the graphic sets are used with multiple different games.



With a Superboard game (ie double bonus Poker) you have 7 chips that can only be used in the superboard.
MXO, MRO,MGO,MBO + CAPX rom are the color chips and need to match the game you are playing.


For the Superboard there are several  Multi-Game sets, I refer you to the IGT game bible off of the main page as to what games are on what set.


There is also something called a WING board that can plug into the super board. This allows you to use 5 games of your choosing. The only cavet is that the games must all use the same graphic chips or you need to put up with wonky colors or graphics due to the mismatch.


In case you are interested in burning your own chips (for backup purposes) the chips are all 27C256 except for the Caprom. The Caprom is a smaller older chip that is not made anymore and cannot be burnt in any modern burner. These are fairly common between game sets so its not like you need that many.

Here are pictures of my board

[Wzrd0803]

Can I add multi poker games to this board?  If so, what do I need to do? Do I need that Wingboard? What chips do I replace. I don't know anything about programming EPROMS. If someone could do that for me I could pay you. What version is my Capx chip?