Author Topic: Michael Jackson Icon on Bally Alpha 2 Pro V22/32 (Read 6597 times)

alfa75 · « **on:** March 09, 2019, 02:18:58 PM »

Is it possible to install the Michael Jackson Icon Game on a Bally Alpha 2 Pro V22/32 with an USB installer or Flash Card? Thanks!

rickhunter · « **Reply #1 on:** March 09, 2019, 09:10:44 PM »

Yes, but you need a 2GB Nvidia card like a K2000, I believe a K620 also works, although I have not personally verified it. The other thing you need to do is connect the topper to the nvidia display port. Disconnect the primary 22 inch monitor and connect the top 32 inch monitor to the primary port.

alfa75 · « **Reply #2 on:** March 09, 2019, 11:25:28 PM »

Quote from: rickhunter on March 09, 2019, 09:10:44 PM

Yes, but you need a 2GB Nvidia card like a K2000, I believe a K620 also works, although I have not personally verified it. The other thing you need to do is connect the topper to the nvidia display port. Disconnect the primary 22 inch monitor and connect the top 32 inch monitor to the primary port.

Thanks for the very helpful answer, I still have a question, can I buy any Nvidia K2000 (e.g. from here: https://www.ebay.com/b/Computer-Graphics-Cards-NVIDIA-Quadro-K2000/27386/bn_25374551) or do I have to pay attention to something? Thanks!

rickhunter · « **Reply #3 on:** March 09, 2019, 11:43:33 PM »

While I cannot verify the vendor you chose, I have bought several on e-bay and they have worked. Other than the ones that were DOA. You will have to figure out a bracket so the card doesn't move, but that's not all that difficult.

alfa75 · « **Reply #4 on:** March 09, 2019, 11:48:55 PM »

Quote from: rickhunter on March 09, 2019, 11:43:33 PM

While I cannot verify the vendor you chose, I have bought several on e-bay and they have worked. Other than the ones that were DOA. You will have to figure out a bracket so the card doesn't move, but that's not all that difficult.

Do you have a purchase tip for me, a good vendor ar something else? Do you have a photo or a link how this bracket should look like? What is meant with DOA, sorry do not know this expression unfortunately.

alfa75 · « **Reply #5 on:** March 09, 2019, 11:58:28 PM »

Ok, I know it DOA means Dead On Arrival

rickhunter · « **Reply #6 on:** March 10, 2019, 07:31:30 AM »

I don't want to recommend an e-bay vendor because if something goes wrong, it comes back to me. It has happen more times than I would like. Just look at the feedback and buy from someone who recycles or someone who sells more than one. As far as the bracket is concerned. I use the original PC bracket by straightening out the "bend" and fitting the other side between the power supply and the MPU's outer case. Here's a photo of what that looks like when installed.

alfa75 · « **Reply #7 on:** March 10, 2019, 07:52:36 AM »

Quote from: rickhunter on March 10, 2019, 07:31:30 AM

I don't want to recommend an e-bay vendor because if something goes wrong, it comes back to me. It has happen more times than I would like. Just look at the feedback and buy from someone who recycles or someone who sells more than one. As far as the bracket is concerned. I use the original PC bracket by straightening out the "bend" and fitting the other side between the power supply and the MPU's outer case. Here's a photo of what that looks like when installed.

Thanks for the note on the assembly, that's very helpful. Do I understand correctly that the game Michael Jackson Icon with the current graphics card (see picture) will not work? What is still unclear to me is the connection from the topper to the Nvidia display port, the topper currently has a VGA cable, do I need an adapter? By the primary port you mean the HDMI where the 22 inch monitor is currently connected? What is it like if I want to play Titanic or another game again, can I play it on this changed graphics card or would I have to undo it?

rickhunter · « **Reply #8 on:** March 10, 2019, 01:10:27 PM »

I can't tell what video card you currently have it could be K600 or a K620. It is usually written on the top edge of video card. The K2000 will work with any game, that's why all my mpu's have that card now, so I don't have to worry about it. The k620 will probably work as it has 2GB of RAM.

You will need a display port to vga adapter, like this one:

https://www.amazon.com/Rankie-DisplayPort-Adapter-Plated-Converter/dp/B00Z08TZNU/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=displayport+to+vga&qid=1552248084&s=gateway&sr=8-3

Yes, the primary port is where the 22 is connected now. You would connect the 32 there and then use the adapter to connect the topper to the display port.

alfa75 · « **Reply #9 on:** March 11, 2019, 03:45:31 AM »

Quote from: rickhunter on March 10, 2019, 01:10:27 PM

I can't tell what video card you currently have it could be K600 or a K620. It is usually written on the top edge of video card. The K2000 will work with any game, that's why all my mpu's have that card now, so I don't have to worry about it. The k620 will probably work as it has 2GB of RAM.

You will need a display port to vga adapter, like this one:

https://www.amazon.com/Rankie-DisplayPort-Adapter-Plated-Converter/dp/B00Z08TZNU/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=displayport+to+vga&qid=1552248084&s=gateway&sr=8-3

Yes, the primary port is where the 22 is connected now. You would connect the 32 there and then use the adapter to connect the topper to the display port.

Thanks again for your support and help. The current card is a NVidia Quadro 600 1GB PCI-Express DisplayPort DVI port and so I assume it won't work, will order a K2000 and the appropriate display port to vga adapter (thanks for the link).

alfa75 · « **Reply #10 on:** March 17, 2019, 02:36:16 PM »

I installed the K2000, but the upper monitor (Topper) didn't show anything. After/while starting the OS the Bally sign was displayed but after finishing the configuration it remains black. I tried to reset it several times and reinstalled it without success. I then gave up and tried with the K2000 to install the games running on the V22/32, but there I have the problem that the touch is extremely shifted to the bottom right. Also the calibration in the install mode or in the game setup didn't work. I'll put the K600 back in tomorrow and hope that I can at least get those games running which are suitable for the V22/32.

rickhunter · « **Reply #11 on:** March 17, 2019, 03:21:55 PM »

The video card has nothing to do with the touchscreen. In order to use your 32 screen to run the game.
1. Video topper gets connected to one of the display ports on the k2000
2. 32 inch monitor goes into the dvi port of the k2000
3. Bottom 22 inch monitor is not connected.
4. You need to move the serial touchscreen connector from the bottom port to the top port.

Michael jackson Icon takes a LONG time to load, it maybe up to 20 minutes before anything shows up on the topper screen.

alfa75 · « **Reply #12 on:** March 18, 2019, 12:04:33 AM »

On the 32 inch monitor I don't have any problems with the touch screen, but if I cable it so that it's ok for the games on the V22/32, 22 inch in DVI port, 32 inch display port, Topper and iDeck on VGA, I have these problems that the touch is heavily shifted down to the right, it also can't fix with calibrate. I didn't have that problem with the K600. Do you have any idea what this could be?

rickhunter · « **Reply #13 on:** March 18, 2019, 09:46:42 AM »

When you switch the cabling between the 22/32 and just 32, are you also swapping around the touchscreen cables on the serial ports? I have no idea why a video card would make any difference since they are two separate things. I've never had touchscreen issues switching from one video card to the other.

alfa75 · « **Reply #14 on:** March 18, 2019, 12:53:13 PM »

It looks like the problem only exists in Game Config and Installer mode. I put on a game (Cash Spin feat Quick Hit) with the 32 inch monitor (there is not the problem with the displaced touch) and then changed the monitors again after the installation. The game is running and also the symbols at the bonus features can be selected, the tolerance may be a bit higher. I suspect that the calibration on the 22 inch monitor doesn't work properly, do you give me a tip what I can do?

rickhunter · « **Reply #15 on:** March 18, 2019, 01:40:48 PM »

I never use touchscreen during the installer (it has never worked right, and the with vertical 32 inch screens, you have to do the rotate function on the screen for it to work). I just twist the reset key twice and it installs all the default components.

I've had intermittent issues with the touchscreens on the older machines. I usually change the touchscreen controller and it fixes it. Oddly enough, if you have the monitor with the touch issues in a horizontal position (like when the door is opened all the way up), the touchscreen works fine. It is the oddest thing. Other than that, I don't know of anything else to try.

alfa75 · « **Reply #16 on:** March 18, 2019, 01:56:09 PM »

Could changing the cable from the touch screen possibly help? Where can I get such a cable? Or is it not possible to change the touch controller without changing the monitor? Do you have a helpful link?

rickhunter · « **Reply #17 on:** March 18, 2019, 07:04:12 PM »

The cable either works, or it doesn't, typically changing the serial able won't do anything, if you had a bad cable, it would error out with a touchscreen com error. As far as the touchscreen controller goes, it depends on your monitor type. My V32 and my V22/22 have a 3M 7720SC controller (Picture below). It is behind a metal shield that is removed by 2 (or 3) screws, then it is held into place by a pair of screws. It has the flat gold cable coming from the touchscreen, then 2 pin power, and 5 pin serial. Always good to have spares in any case, even if your works right.

I have a bought a few from this guy and they have all worked for me.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/3M-Touch-Controller-EXII-7720SC/171357303361?hash=item27e5b0f241:g:KkAAAOSwVupTmnv3

alfa75 · « **Reply #18 on:** April 08, 2019, 12:59:30 PM »

Quote from: rickhunter on March 18, 2019, 07:04:12 PM

The cable either works, or it doesn't, typically changing the serial able won't do anything, if you had a bad cable, it would error out with a touchscreen com error. As far as the touchscreen controller goes, it depends on your monitor type. My V32 and my V22/22 have a 3M 7720SC controller (Picture below). It is behind a metal shield that is removed by 2 (or 3) screws, then it is held into place by a pair of screws. It has the flat gold cable coming from the touchscreen, then 2 pin power, and 5 pin serial. Always good to have spares in any case, even if your works right.

I have a bought a few from this guy and they have all worked for me.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/3M-Touch-Controller-EXII-7720SC/171357303361?hash=item27e5b0f241:g:KkAAAOSwVupTmnv3

I've changed the touchscreen controller and now everything works fine, thanks for the hint.

I've an another question regarding installing Michael Jackson Icon on the V22/32 machine. I can't get into the setup menu there, respectively it looks like the game won't load, I left the door B&M open and only the door B for testing. I waited more than 15 minutes for both variants, but it didn't happen. Which door would have to be left open for me to get into the setup?

rickhunter · « **Reply #19 on:** April 08, 2019, 01:27:57 PM »

You need to have open door M to get into the correct setup menu. Also it takes more than 15 minutes to load. I would leave it running for at least 45 minutes, your load time depends on mpu type and how much memory you have. There's a red light for activity under the rightmost set of ethernet/usb ports on the MPU. The red light indicates SSD activity. This light stays pretty much lit or quickly blinking during the load process. As long as the light is lit, the game is still loading. Also the screen will change from the Bally logo with the circles around it to a black screen and I believe the ideck will say (or maybe the v32 screen) select Denom on it, then you can enter setup. Also while loading, if you press setup button on the mpu, you will hear a buzzard sound, like you did something wrong that you are not supposed to do.

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