Author Topic: 1114-4 EM? (Read 3123 times)

Herbie21 · « **on:** March 28, 2021, 11:49:20 AM »

Boys, is this an EM?, I can buy 2 for $750, good deal?

cheers Herbie

Herbie21 · « **Reply #1 on:** March 28, 2021, 12:07:58 PM »

its a 1114-4 and a 1114-3 build for MGM Grand? just before the fire?

Herbie

wolftalk · « **Reply #2 on:** March 28, 2021, 05:13:22 PM »

my list says you're right - both were $1 machines for the MGM

the 1114-3 was pretty much a 94.5% payback version of the 1114 with mgm reel tapes and glass and is a 22 stop game.
the 1114-4 was a 25 stop game, so the slotted index discs are different along with all the rest.

the payout counter contact plate is the same in both games, but wiring to it is a little different and the -3 uses the 20 trace while the -4 doesn't.

DavidLee · « **Reply #3 on:** March 28, 2021, 06:17:15 PM »

Nice machines, 2 for $600. would be a good deal.
Take in consideration youâ€™re dealing with dollar coins or tokens.

Preferably nickel or quarter machines as you can put spare change into the machine.

Herbie21 · « **Reply #4 on:** March 28, 2021, 08:51:13 PM »

@ Wolf is there any paperwork of these 1114 versions?
@ David the strange thing is the machines come with a transformer 110/220 volt and tokens, can I change this?

thanks Herbie

DavidLee · « **Reply #5 on:** March 29, 2021, 06:26:09 AM »

Yes, both can be changed.

Regarding the token to coin switch over, some parts might need to be changed out.
Definitely the coin mechanism near the center of the door.

Wolftalk, would know more about the transformer situation.

wolftalk · « **Reply #6 on:** March 29, 2021, 02:50:24 PM »

Quote from: Herbie21 on March 28, 2021, 08:51:13 PM

@ Wolf is there any paperwork of these 1114 versions

the exact schematics would be hard to find, but the 1114 and the variations on http://bingo.cdyn.com/slots/ should be very close for the main game circuits. The reel wiring and payout counters may be different, but single pay line games are pretty easy to figure out.

the 1114-6 on the bingo site was an mgm reno machine, so it may have similar changes to other mgm models (terminal blocks, the lion jackpot relay, etc).

wrt the transformer, afaik pretty much all the bally slots had transformers capable of 120/220/240 operation. Early machines needed rewiring at the transformer, later ones like the 1114 you just moved a plug into different sockets to change from 120 to 220/240.

Herbie21 · « **Reply #7 on:** March 31, 2021, 07:31:43 AM »

Hi someone knows from which year the 1114-4 is? One of the last EMs before the fire et MGM Grand Hotel in 1980 must be a rare model?
Thx Herbie

wolftalk · « **Reply #8 on:** March 31, 2021, 08:43:47 AM »

the 1114 is around 1976, but there's no way to know when the variations were made.

there's also an MGM in Reno and probably elsewhere, so that fire didn't wipe out all the mgm machines.

Herbie21 · « **Reply #9 on:** April 03, 2021, 11:21:39 AM »

I saw the machines yesterday, it is a wide body and had huge tokens I didn't buy it, too big!

DavidLee · « **Reply #10 on:** April 03, 2021, 03:21:24 PM »

Did you ever get a firm price?

Herbie21 · « **Reply #11 on:** April 03, 2021, 04:00:09 PM »

$650 for two, one belly glass booken, rest working and complete

Simple Sam · « **Reply #12 on:** April 03, 2021, 04:48:25 PM »

Quote from: Herbie21 on April 03, 2021, 11:21:39 AM

I saw the machines yesterday, it is a wide body and had huge tokens I didn't buy it, too big!

Funny, I have a wide body (1075) and it seems more "modern" than the standard Bally EMs. The biggest downside of dollar machines is the cost of tokens/dollar coins and is why I still haven't bought one. If it had a lot of tokens, that would have made it a better deal. The replacement glass might be a challenge to get although you could try reproducing it especially since you would have a good one. I wouldn't want two of the same machine but one of them would look good next to my MGM 956.

Are you really in Switzerland? If so, those machines have a lot of miles (kilometers?) on them.

Herbie21 · « **Reply #13 on:** April 04, 2021, 06:06:04 AM »

Sam, the machines come with a lot +100 tokens but they are huge, I don't like it. I don't think were a lot used in Europe, they were like brand new. Search for 'Bally slot' on tutti.ch (Swiss ebay) cheers Herbie

Simple Sam · « **Reply #14 on:** April 04, 2021, 09:37:40 PM »

What makes a slot machine worth purchasing is a very individual decision. I'm in Reno, Nevada so I am particularly attracted to machines from Northern Nevada. I have a variety of machines and, while I'd purchase a machine from Las Vegas or Atlantic City, they aren't something I immediately gravitate towards. It is interesting that a machine that was originally purchased for a Reno or Las Vegas casino ended up in Switzerland in really nice shape.

The other thing that is hard to gauge is pricing. $650 for two working machines (albeit with a broken belly glass) is fairly inexpensive in the USA. Of course, with exchange rates and different incomes, it may not be as cheap in Switzerland as it sounds. I remember being in England and thinking that everything was about the same price in pounds as in the USA in dollars but the average wages in England were much lower.

Buy what makes you happy, it's just a hobby!

DavidLee · « **Reply #15 on:** April 05, 2021, 06:36:23 AM »

Machines with Casino belly glass are more appealing, next would be Bally logo glass. Then everything else.

DavidLee · « **Reply #16 on:** April 05, 2021, 06:45:28 AM »

Close up Harolds Club Reno.

Hopefully AI will not rotate the photo.

Herbie21 · « **Reply #17 on:** April 06, 2021, 01:08:12 PM »

Hi Sam and David, the guy offered me $500, for the two, I could not refuse, will pick them up tomorrow, to be continued.

by the way one is a straight 3x but the second is a 3x and two way pay is that possible?

cheers Herbie

wolftalk · « **Reply #18 on:** April 06, 2021, 06:38:03 PM »

Quote from: Herbie21 on April 06, 2021, 01:08:12 PM

by the way one is a straight 3x but the second is a 3x and two way pay is that possible?

yup! two way pay is just a lot of extra wiring on the reel wiper boards, and maybe added diodes if there's lots of paying symbol combinations.

if you're lucky, he'll have the paperwork.

Simple Sam · « **Reply #19 on:** April 07, 2021, 10:54:48 AM »

$500 for both is a great deal!

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