Author Topic: 831 Reels Not Spinning (Read 1857 times)

rdaniel · « **on:** February 27, 2021, 02:09:13 PM »

Instead of interfering with PHAN000's thread I thought I should begin my own. The reels do not spin for the first two or three pulls of the handle. All three reels just go "klunk" and do not spin. It happens when the machine has sat over night and will also occasionally happens when the machine is warm but sitting for 30-40 minutes unplayed. After that, the reels spin normally and the machine plays as it should.

DavidLee · « **Reply #1 on:** February 27, 2021, 02:40:52 PM »

Try letting it warm up for 30 minutes or so.
If it plays normal after warming up.
Then it could be just cold lubricant slowing things down.

This would be the easiest way to narrow down the problem.

rdaniel · « **Reply #2 on:** February 27, 2021, 03:39:05 PM »

Thanks David. I will give it a try.

Amechanic · « **Reply #3 on:** February 27, 2021, 04:03:37 PM »

Sounds like something is starting to dry out. Some grease has hardened up..

rdaniel · « **Reply #4 on:** February 27, 2021, 07:39:44 PM »

Thanks, I will check for that also.

wolftalk · « **Reply #5 on:** February 27, 2021, 08:36:28 PM »

check the latch pawls under the reels (25 in below diagram). If they can't pivot easily on the shaft, the little ledge on the top of it may not grab the toggle lever (35) and hold the index lever arm (51) out of the reels until the timer link (23) kicks the pawl away and releases the index arm.

Herbie21 · « **Reply #6 on:** February 28, 2021, 12:10:04 AM »

check position of J in diagram, I think move a bit to the right, good luck

Herbie

RiseLikeRa · « **Reply #7 on:** February 28, 2021, 03:14:44 AM »

RD:

Logic would lead me to think that your problem may be more lubrication than mechanical. I just can not see how a mechanical misalignment would be abated by the passage of time, but what do I know. As a matter of fact, what I do know is

that in problems involving the reel mech a home made handle actuator has been invaluable.

Made from a piece of flat iron, a bolt and 2 nuts I can pull the reel mech out of the machine, place it on a bench and cycle it as many times and I want to without drawing blood from my thumbs while trying to fire the mech by hand. I hear from old timers that Bally made such a device back in the day. I think that I followed a "how to" thread on the old forum. If you are going to keep these games around, and I know that you are, them make yourself one. Mine is as crude and crude can get but it works. When you want to work on a 4 or 5 reel game like my Arrowline or Medallist this handle pully thingy becomes essential and priceless.

My advice is free and worth every penny

Stay well all
Your Pal Ra

Herbie21 · « **Reply #8 on:** February 28, 2021, 10:36:41 AM »

Ra send us a picture, i also have one but am at the wrong location, Herbie

rdaniel · « **Reply #9 on:** February 28, 2021, 12:38:32 PM »

Thank you Wolf and Herbie. I will check on those areas of the reel mech.

Hi T. I purchased one of those tools for manually spinning the reels. I got it on e-bay and had to out bid a very determined bidder. I have used it many times and it was well worth the money. I will check for old grease hidden in places.

RiseLikeRa · « **Reply #10 on:** February 28, 2021, 01:36:41 PM »

Herbie:

I took the pictures but the resize thing is another story. Perhaps RD can send you/us a picture of the real McCoy

Ra

RiseLikeRa · « **Reply #11 on:** February 28, 2021, 01:44:26 PM »

Here we go I think...

RiseLikeRa · « **Reply #12 on:** February 28, 2021, 02:19:47 PM »

Like I said all, this was used at the Flintstone casino but it works. I would like to see what the Bally one looks like.

Ra

Herbie21 · « **Reply #13 on:** February 28, 2021, 02:58:04 PM »

look similar to mine, great tool!

rdaniel · « **Reply #14 on:** February 28, 2021, 04:15:40 PM »

I will send a photo you you all to enjoy.

RiseLikeRa · « **Reply #15 on:** February 28, 2021, 05:07:48 PM »

Waiting with anticipation like Christmas Eve. This Covid isolation has set my bar for excitement and stimulation really really low!

Ra

rdaniel · « **Reply #16 on:** March 01, 2021, 03:19:58 PM »

Here is a photo of my handle. Works great and might have been used by a Bally tech.

RiseLikeRa · « **Reply #17 on:** March 01, 2021, 03:47:11 PM »

Looks a lot like my bootleg model. Thank you for sharing.

rdaniel · « **Reply #18 on:** March 01, 2021, 09:24:33 PM »

Any time.

OldReno · « **Reply #19 on:** March 02, 2021, 12:20:30 PM »

Ballyâ€™s always run hot. If your machine is cold, thatâ€™s probably the #1 reason it doesnâ€™t spin right.
When you pull handle make sure wiper arms fall all the way back. A drop of light oil rubbed on the boards can help.
Also you can kick the reels just by pushing back on the pump arm with just a little vigor.

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Author Topic: 831 Reels Not Spinning (Read 1857 times)