Game constantly tilting

[Brewchap]

This game keeps tilting with a 71 or 72 code, sometime it will might tilt on the 1st game or 50th. This game must have been setting for a long time. The reel assembly was frozen up with caked on grease.
I cleaned and washed until the parts started moving again.  I even when as far as cleaning the reel readers with a Q-tip and alcohol.
I lubricated all the pivot points with Lithium grease while I "break in" the rack with the thought the grease could break down the old cruddy grease and I would go back after a few days and wash out the Lithium grease and use a heavier grease in it's place.

I tell you all this in case it might help to locate the problem that I am having. The game will tilt, out of the blue. Using the reset button will clear it for just a second, then back to tilt. The only way that I have found to clear the error is to go into the "menu" and advance the hopper or even run a solenoid test. Once I do this, I can hit the reset, close door and play a game...until it tilts again. I'm not sure what other adjustments I can do.

I do question the "hack" on the cherry switch. Why are there capacitors here?

[Brewchap]

I am constantly get an error 72. I tried moving the reel reader to another position and it did not change. Still the same error.


Edit: Is there a way to calibrate the reels?

[pearson28]

Sorry you're having a tilt problem. Which machine do you have?

Do you have all the manuals that are available on this site? Have you run all the self-tests?  I had to replace the kicker switch on mine, and for sure don't have that capacitor hack. Not sure the use, perhaps to help filter or clean up power?

[Chris-socal]

On older pinball machines they use a similar capacitor trick. Because the computer can only monitor so many switches in a cycle it might occasionally miss a switch being hit by the ball. The capacitor retains line voltage long enough for the computer to make one full round and ensures the credit is applied. I have no idea if there is a similar issue going on here but its something to consider.

Chris

[pearson28]

Lift a leg of that cap, maybe, see what happens?

[Brewchap]

I have a Bally 3 reel E2000. 1985 7's.

I've downloaded the manual. I have ran a few tests. I think that I should take a closer look at the switch test to see if I can find my problem there.

I'll mess with the caps this evening to see what happens. Maybe the caps are there trying to fix the issue that I'm having.

[pearson28]

I would definitely run a continuity check on those switches. They may be getting harder to find, but badbaud had one posted on eBay I picked up.

[Brewchap]

I had to replace the kicker switch on mine

I reread your post. What/where is the kicker switch?

I did the switch test. The coin, hopper, and the 2 cam's test fine. The door switch does not work. I could not find anymore. Still getting the occasional 72 error. Tried again swapping the reel readers, but that didn't fix it. I did remove the green cap. I'll try removing the red one now.

Nope, clipping the red cap did not change anything.
Is it possible that I don't have enough grease or the right grease on the pivot points? 

I think that tomorrow I will pull the reel assy and check the measurements. Maybe there is something "off."

[pearson28]

Looking at the pic you posted, you can see on the ripped diagram the lower of the 2 switches labeled Kick sw. I think it's the one below the Cap your troubleshooting. I'm far from a pro, so I need to go check which one is which and will post back.

[pearson28]

Those are the kick and arm switches on the side of the reel mech. Test 3 will verify their proper operation.

[Brewchap]

I gotcha. Switch test worked as expected. So far my luck has gotten better. I greased the pivot points again and my errors seemed to have gone away. I'm going to run $100 through it and see what I get.

Hey pearson28, I wanted to thank you for your help. I still have a lot of learning to do but I really appreciate your help.

[Brewchap]

Well, it has been a couple of days now, and I still get an 71 error.  Anymore ideas? I welcome any and all ideas!

[Brewchap]

In the #3 switch test, I depress the coin switch wire and I get a 3. . .0.0.1., but when I release it, it goes to 3. . . 1.2.0.

Is this correct? I read somewhere in my search, that was a code to turn a coin light on and that maybe the I/O card might be bad.

[Brewchap]

Cleaned and removed more of the old grease from the reel assy. Now no more errors.