Author Topic: IGT AVP observations from a noob. (Read 20785 times)

morspeed · « **Reply #20 on:** August 27, 2017, 08:12:15 AM »

Rick you can get to that denom available to player screen again without starting over. Let me check where it is real quick.

morspeed · « **Reply #21 on:** August 27, 2017, 08:35:36 AM »

Listen up Fellas, school is in session.
Go to setup/cash handling/devices/denom available to players
And default denom.
Now if you are trying to change the Coin 1 denom, yes you are screwed. Start over. But really not necessary.

morspeed · « **Reply #22 on:** August 27, 2017, 08:44:24 AM »

Quote from: rickhunter on August 27, 2017, 12:54:19 AM

I will say, that in general, the quality of the games in Bally alpha 2/ bb2/bb3 is superior in almost all regards to the AVP games. Games like CSI and Dolly Parton are VERY cool games, and beats most bally/wms games for sure. But nothing will ever compete with Willy Wonka, LOTR, Michael Jackson, Cher, Titanic, and the other "top tier" games in my opinion, but it's getting very close.

As far as games go, BTTF is pretty cool too. Most of the really good games are IPC though.

JDKMunch · « **Reply #23 on:** August 27, 2017, 10:08:47 AM »

I really love the platform -

I would equate the premium on par with the Alpha 2 premium titles

I much prefer the IGT standard games to Alpha 2 standard titles
Miss Red/Miss White are awesome

also being able to load so many games is priceless

rickhunter · « **Reply #24 on:** August 28, 2017, 11:24:23 AM »

As per morspeed instructions, sure enough, you can add denoms on the fly. However I ran into an interesting issue. I added the nickel denom (I only have penny enabled before). So I had both nickel and penny. I enabled a couple of games to try the nickel denom. It worked, but when i switched back to penny denom, on a game I tried "Takes the Cake" I got a button panel failure, firmware file too small, fix issue. The only way I could get out was to disable the game, so I could pick another game. I played golden goddess just fine. Then I re-enabled "takes the cake" selected it, and the same problem. I went back and disabled all nickel games and the nickel denom. Still the same issue. I removed and re-installed "Takes the Cake" same issue. So then I just rebooted the system and things were back to normal. I have not tried enabling nickel denom, enabling the games, and rebooting, to see if that fixes the issue. It got too late last night to try it, I'm wondering if anybody else has run accross this problem with the OLED button panel.

Another observation:

Can't load or remove games with TITO enabled from the e-key menu. I get an error regarding authorization from host. If I disable the COM1 SAS, then I can add and remove games.

The eKey is SUPER important, can't do anything without it.

Did I mention the Ekey and how important it is?

Went to a local casino to see what other AVP games are out that would be fun to buy. I saw a golden goddess (same one I have), but it had a promo screen with "Hot New Game" running while in attract mode on the top screen. Is there a setting for that? I've seen the area where you can change from Gameking to Multi-game, but nothing about "Hot New Game" or similar.

Did I mention the Ekey and now important it is? Don't lose it and handle with care.

Has anybody ever loaded a gameking set on their machine along with some of the other avp video slots? I notice the game setup screen has an area to enable multiple tabs.

Have I mentioned how nothing can be done without the ekey? (ok, you get the idea)

morspeed · « **Reply #25 on:** August 28, 2017, 12:33:29 PM »

It is weird that you can't load games with the tito enabled because I have no problems with it. There may be a setting somewhere that need to be changed. Try this:
Machine Setup Requirements to allow theme installation and removal using Package Management:
1. Navigate to Setup>Communication>Protocol> G2S>G2S must be Disabled (Protocol Enabled - NO) Package Management option will not be shown on the menus if G2S is Enabled.
2. Navigate to Setup>Communication>Protocol> G2S and set Protocol that controls Legacy Meter Change setting to NOT REQUIRED

I have experienced issues with dynamic button tilts on certain games with that kind of error or similar. What kind of dynamic buttons do you have?
Also, which ekey do you have?

You should be able to mess around with attractions in the same area you were in for the multitheme menu selection. I think it is more games/attract button or something like that.

rickhunter · « **Reply #26 on:** August 28, 2017, 01:47:55 PM »

I have an ekey 7. The button panel I have has 10 OLED buttons in the middle and a pair of standard buttons to either side (14 total buttons)

morspeed · « **Reply #27 on:** August 28, 2017, 02:37:59 PM »

Edge lit or standard?

rickhunter · « **Reply #28 on:** August 28, 2017, 05:51:32 PM »

standard. I want to upgrade to edge lit, but I was told I needed a newer version of the little square chip on the adapter.

morspeed · « **Reply #29 on:** August 28, 2017, 06:09:17 PM »

Those can be upgraded with the cvv program and proper file. what number is on the chip you have now?

rickhunter · « **Reply #30 on:** August 28, 2017, 09:27:30 PM »

This is what I have.

morspeed · « **Reply #31 on:** August 30, 2017, 08:32:16 AM »

Yeah, that is pretty old. That could be part of the problem. I think you should probably be at 006 or better. But then again I am not sure if that will work with the standard dynamics.

rickhunter · « **Reply #32 on:** October 03, 2017, 12:20:14 PM »

A couple more things to add to my ongoing observations. So I removed the mainboard from a 620 box to compare to a 621 and 625 box. They are exactly the same. The 621 and 625 only differ in the metal cage in that the power supply in the 625 (which is the exact same one found in the 621 and 620) goes inside the lid as opposed to outside the lid. They all have socketed CPU's under the active heatsink. The 620 has a single core 2 Ghz AMD Sempron processor, the 621 and 625 both have an AMD Turion 64 X2 dual core processor running at 2.1Ghz. I moved the processor from a 621 to a 620 box and it operates the same as it does on the 621 box. Of course now, the next question begs to see if you put a faster processor on the MPU, if the games would run any better? I'm about to find out as I'm now actively looking for a higher end Turion 64 cpu, I will update this thread when and if I ever come across something that works.

atc250rfoxusa · « **Reply #33 on:** December 18, 2022, 10:45:02 PM »

Rickhunter-

Did you ever determine an adapter part for the 5 flat to 5 molex? Looking to go from a 3.0m to a 625 on my g22 slant. Need the adapter cable and also the extension cable for the 10 pin molex.....

rickhunter · « **Reply #34 on:** December 19, 2022, 02:12:33 AM »

Never found the 5 pin plug for the power supply. I did find the main power plug. It is this one from TE connectivity,

https://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/571-770580-1

Hertz14 · « **Reply #35 on:** December 19, 2022, 07:54:32 AM »

Rick- from what I can ascertain on my g20 with a 621, the 5 pin flat that goes into the top of the small ps box goes to j25 labeled “usb power”. I’m gathering this best I can without pulling the zip ties apart on the harness and trying to follow the wires thru the harness.

On my g23 with a 660, there is no j25 on the backplane that I can see... obviously all of the USB ports are on the fin board- whole different animal there. I also noticed that the main power harness from j11 goes into the front of the 660 box. That’s the connector you specified, same as what goes into the back of the small ps on the 621. The 5 pin connector next to it on 660 box is not filled.

So the question would be- on a g20 or g22, is this 5 pin connector utilized when upgrading or installing a 625 or 660 box? That 5 pin either feeds 5v power to the backplane or gets 5v from the backplane- just looking at it I would assume that the ps is feeding 5v for the USB ports on the backplane. If this is the case, would the USB ports become essentially dead? That doesn’t make much sense as there is more to those ports than just providing power.

firehawk618 · « **Reply #36 on:** October 02, 2023, 09:26:01 AM »

This thread answered a LOT of my questions about 620 vs 625. Thanks.

rickhunter · « **Reply #37 on:** October 07, 2023, 01:34:00 PM »

Regarding the little 5 pin plug for power to USB. I experimented with it when trying to connect a 625 on a v1 cabinet. Without the 5 pin power, all usb connected devices were inoperable, so you do need it for the v1 cabinet, you would have to get a harness from the mpu to the backplane to wire in the 5 volts. I believe that powers the USB controller chip on the backplane.

firehawk618 · « **Reply #38 on:** October 07, 2023, 03:02:38 PM »

Good to know. I was wondering what that was for and why one of my machines had it and the other didn't.

Retro tech repair · « **Reply #39 on:** October 09, 2023, 11:54:34 PM »

Quote from: rickhunter on October 07, 2023, 01:34:00 PM

Regarding the little 5 pin plug for power to USB. I experimented with it when trying to connect a 625 on a v1 cabinet. Without the 5 pin power, all usb connected devices were inoperable, so you do need it for the v1 cabinet, you would have to get a harness from the mpu to the backplane to wire in the 5 volts. I believe that powers the USB controller chip on the backplane.

If you only have 2 usb devices you can just run them directly to the brain box. If you have more you. An use a cheap usb hub. Much easier to source than that cable is.

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