Back lit reels stay dim. Amber lights.

[Stayouttadabunker]

Okay...I just tried it with the VS011GX1 and the backlights work as well...so the problem isn't with your version chips I think.

We need to find the power (13Vdc) ground wire going to your reel back lights...either you don't have power going to the lamps or they're all burned out.
But you did say that they're dim? I don't remember. 
If so, the lamp control board isn't working due to one of two things...a broken wire or bad lamp control board.
It's supposed to send more juice to certain lamps to brighten them up.

okay below is my reel harness pulled out...easy to do...
Pull out the 3 reels from the tray and place aside.
Pull out hopper....just makes more room.

Undo white twister circle clips from behind reel tray on harness.
Pull out connector from back light board. (Top one on the right and clip is in the middle).

Squeeze clips on sides of the White Molex reel connectors to remove from the tray rearward.
You have 3 Molexes to get out.
Pull out black reel harness connector from backplane board.
Squeeze middle of long black connector....the clip is on the left side of it as you squeeze and pull at the same time.
Place harness on bench in front of you with good lighting and set multi-meter to continuity.

Shoot me a picture of your multimeter and I'll show you where to turn your dial to.
Lemmie know when you're ready...it's midnight here in New York...haha

There's a common wire between the whole thing ...we gotta find it the broken one.

1st one I wanna check is the solid red wire...that's common 13 volts power running from the backplane board to the 3 reels and back light board.
The ground wire is.....I'm looking
I'll look for some schematics in my library.
Found them...it's below the link to the photo.
Click on any photo to enlarge...>>>


 

[RB]

I've never had a DD in any configuration that would not work with backlit reels. Have you verified that the controller board & cabinet I/O are good? I've used the same setup as yours, SS chips even a ST chip in one. Version 9GX0, 11GX1. They all worked as should.

[Stayouttadabunker]

I'll betcha bent pin on the I/O board....lol

[FORDF150]

Okay...I just tried it with the VS011GX1 and the backlights work as well...so the problem isn't with your version chips I think.

We need to find the power (13Vdc) ground wire going to your reel back lights...either you don't have power going to the lamps or they're all burned out.
But you did say that they're dim? I don't remember. 
If so, the lamp control board isn't working due to one of two things...a broken wire or bad lamp control board.
It's supposed to send more juice to certain lamps to brighten them up.

okay below is my reel harness pulled out...easy to do...
Pull out the 3 reels from the tray and place aside.
Pull out hopper....just makes more room.

Undo white twister circle clips from behind reel tray on harness.
Pull out connector from back light board. (Top one on the right and clip is in the middle).

Squeeze clips on sides of the White Molex reel connectors to remove from the tray rearward.
You have 3 Molexes to get out.
Pull out black reel harness connector from backplane board.
Squeeze middle of long black connector....the clip is on the left side of it as you squeeze and pull at the same time.
Place harness on bench in front of you with good lighting and set multi-meter to continuity.

Shoot me a picture of your multimeter and I'll show you where to turn your dial to.
Lemmie know when you're ready...it's midnight here in New York...haha

There's a common wire between the whole thing ...we gotta find it the broken one.

1st one I wanna check is the solid red wire...that's common 13 volts power running from the backplane board to the 3 reels and back light board.
The ground wire is.....I'm looking
I'll look for some schematics in my library.
Found them...it's below the link to the photo.
Click on any photo to enlarge...>>>

so far to me I think the controller boards working I'm going to send you a picture of the reels lit but they're dim like I mentioned before so there must be something else going on I checked the plug going to the reals all three wheels have 13 volts to solid red wire I also noticed when I pulled the big plug from the backplane board the lights are still lit I wonder if that means anything

[Stayouttadabunker]

It sounds like you're getting power (because the lamps are in dim mode) but the lamp control board isn't sending out the extra power when called for.
When I say "Called for", I mean that's when the lamps are supposed to get brighter when a winning symbol lands on the payline during a game played or when you perform the reel lamp test in the menu.

To me, that points out to a logic signal not reaching the lamp control board to push out power to the reel lamps.
Three things can cause that I think...a faulty reel harness, a bad lamp controller, or maybe even a bad I/O with a possible bent pin or burned out IC component.

Did you carefully inspect the pins on the I/O board that is on the right side wall of the MPU box?

[FORDF150]

Because I'm getting 13 volts power going to the backlight controller board to three solid red wires going to the reals I'm looking at the cabinet IO card I'm going to show you pictures of the board that I took apart it doesn't seem like to me that ain't no burnt out I see chips  look like they're straight not Bent
Now what about the harness that goes to the cabinet card going to the controller board does that also control your lights because I tested them and they get
Continuity

[FORDF150]

Here is the the mpu io card or cabinet card

[FORDF150]

It sounds like you're getting power (because the lamps are in dim mode) but the lamp control board isn't sending out the extra power when called for.
When I say "Called for", I mean that's when the lamps are supposed to get brighter when a winning symbol lands on the payline during a game played or when you perform the reel lamp test in the menu.

To me, that points out to a logic signal not reaching the lamp control board to push out power to the reel lamps.
Three things can cause that I think...a faulty reel harness, a bad lamp controller, or maybe even a bad I/O with a possible bent pin or burned out IC component.

Did you carefully inspect the pins on the I/O board that is on the right side wall of the MPU box?

here's a picture of the cabinet card it's getting 13 volts from the controller board to the three reels

[FORDF150]

It sounds like you're getting power (because the lamps are in dim mode) but the lamp control board isn't sending out the extra power when called for.
When I say "Called for", I mean that's when the lamps are supposed to get brighter when a winning symbol lands on the payline during a game played or when you perform the reel lamp test in the menu.

To me, that points out to a logic signal not reaching the lamp control board to push out power to the reel lamps.
Three things can cause that I think...a faulty reel harness, a bad lamp controller, or maybe even a bad I/O with a possible bent pin or burned out IC component.

Did you carefully inspect the pins on the I/O board that is on the right side wall of the MPU box?

. Here's a picture of the lamp test

[FORDF150]

It sounds like you're getting power (because the lamps are in dim mode) but the lamp control board isn't sending out the extra power when called for.
When I say "Called for", I mean that's when the lamps are supposed to get brighter when a winning symbol lands on the payline during a game played or when you perform the reel lamp test in the menu.

To me, that points out to a logic signal not reaching the lamp control board to push out power to the reel lamps.
Three things can cause that I think...a faulty reel harness, a bad lamp controller, or maybe even a bad I/O with a possible bent pin or burned out IC component.

Did you carefully inspect the pins on the I/O board that is on the right side wall of the MPU box?

[Jim]

If you want to know what type of version chip you are using, go into the test menus,  select #1 Accounting, then go 1.6 version , then go through that menu, it will tell you every chip in that machine and its number. 

sounds like you have a bad controller board, not much else could be wrong!!!  IMHO.    power is hooked up, I/O is hooked up,  reels harness is hooked up. 

Jim

[FORDF150]

It sounds like you're getting power (because the lamps are in dim mode) but the lamp control board isn't sending out the extra power when called for.
When I say "Called for", I mean that's when the lamps are supposed to get brighter when a winning symbol lands on the payline during a game played or when you perform the reel lamp test in the menu.

To me, that points out to a logic signal not reaching the lamp control board to push out power to the reel lamps.
Three things can cause that I think...a faulty reel harness, a bad lamp controller, or maybe even a bad I/O with a possible bent pin or burned out IC component.

Did you carefully inspect the pins on the I/O board that is on the right side wall of the MPU box?

do you have the pinout schematics for the plug that connects into the backplane board the mpu there's two green wires and one came out I do not know where that one wire goes but I don't think it has nothing to do with the problem that I'm having

[Stayouttadabunker]

Bingo....probably a Netplex wire on that harness.

That explains why the reel control board isn't getting logic signals from the MPU to brighten the lamps.

I posted the schematics in Reply #16.

Let me inspect the photo more and I'll give you an answer shortly.

Is it solid green or does it have a colored stripe on it?

Your picture isn't the clearest...If it's green w/ gray stripe, it goes on the back row opposite the Molex clip in the 3rd hole from the 40 at Pin-38.
there's no wires occupying Pins-40, 39 or 37.
Pin-36 is a Black wire w/purple stripe.

If it's a solid light green wire, then it goes on the front next to the black wire w/orange stripe.

[FORDF150]

Bingo....probably a Netplex wire on that harness.

That explains why the reel control board isn't getting logic signals from the MPU to brighten the lamps.

I posted the schematics in Reply #16.

Let me inspect the photo more and I'll give you an answer shortly.

Is it solid green or does it have a colored stripe on it?

I don't think it's a bingo I don't think it's a bingo I found the wire I was pulling on it and it came out but I don't think that's the real issue it doesn't explain why the lights don't brighten up I was wondering if I can change the version chip the chip that is faded can I see the numbers I was wondering if I can change it to another version would that fix my problem

[Stayouttadabunker]

Put in another Version chip if you want but I tried two Version chips last night and they both worked fine.

Use something flat and tiny to push up on the retaining metal on the pin that catches the pin retainer hole in the black 40-Pin Molex when you put the loose wire back in.

What color was the stripe on that loose wire...you never answered.

[FORDF150]

Put in another Version chip if you want but I tried two Version chips last night and they both worked fine.

Use something flat and tiny to push up on the retaining metal on the pin that catches the hole in the black 40-Pin Molex when you put the loose wire back in.

What color was the stripe on that loose wire...you never answered.

I need the wiring display of the plug that goes into the backplane board of the mpu

[Stayouttadabunker]

I need the color of the loose wire to help you. 

There's only TWO green wires and I told you where they go in Reply #28.

[FORDF150]

Put in another Version chip if you want but I tried two Version chips last night and they both worked fine.

Use something flat and tiny to push up on the retaining metal on the pin that catches the pin retainer hole in the black 40-Pin Molex when you put the loose wire back in.

What color was the stripe on that loose wire...you never answered.

plug is not numbered what does two green wires on the very end

[Stayouttadabunker]

Slightly better photo. There is a number 40 on the back if you look carefully.

Anyway, your loose wire goes in on the front in the 2nd hole next to the black w/orange stripe that's in the 1st hole.

[FORDF150]

Slightly better photo. There is a number 40 on the back if you look carefully.

Anyway, your loose wire goes in on the front in the 2nd hole next to the black w/orange stripe that's in the 1st hole.