Need help wiring hold buttons

[Big D]

I am converting a PE+ from a keno machine into a poker machine, and I have all the hold buttons working except the middle hold button. I cant find where that wire should be in the connector.

[knagl]

From the archive site (link), here's what I posted for the button wiring for my PE+ bartop drop-in machine:

Originally posted December 4, 2010:
I took pictures, but I'm not too sure how helpful they'll be.  Let's start with this before I deal with offloading and uploading:

First, there isn't one common ground wire for these buttons, per se.  That is, there isn't one wire that directly connects to all five of them.

Here's the wiring on my machine.  If the first one matches yours, then the rest should as well.  These go in order on the blades of the cherry switch.  The blades are labeled on each cherry switch (look closely at the plastic housing on the switch itself).

You'll notice in my notes here that the wire from the previous NC blade goes to the C blade of the next switch, every time -- that makes the series.

Hold 1:
C = Yellow/Purple Stripe
NO = White-ish or yellow (the color is fading on mine -- tough to tell)
NC = Gray

Hold 2:
C= Gray
NO = White/Purple Stripe
NC = Gray/Purple Stripe

Hold 3:
C = Gray/Purple Stripe
NO = Yellow/Red Stripe
NC = Gray/Dark Blue Stripe

Hold 4:
C = Gray/Dark Blue Stripe
NO = White/Brown Stripe  (or this may just be a whiteish-brown wire - my notes are scrawled)
NC = Gray/Yellow Stripe

Hold 5:
C = Gray/Yellow Stripe
NO = White/Black Stripe
NC = [open] (nothing connected to this -- it's the end of the series)

Success?

If not, and hold 1 is the only button working, triple-check the wiring to (and from) the switch.  Because they're wired in series, if something is mis-wired, that'll be the last one (or the one before it) to work in the series.


Edited to add: Here's the rest of the button wiring for the PE+ bartop, in case someone needs it in the future.

Deal/Draw:
C = Yellow/Green Stripe
NO = Yellow/Black Stripe
NC = Gray/Orange Stripe

Bet 5 (Max):
C = Gray/Orange Stripe
NO = Yellow/Brown Stripe
NC = Gray/Red Stripe

Bet 1 (Play Credit):
C = Gray/Red Stripe
NO = Yellow/Red Stripe
NC = Gray/Brown Stripe

Cash Out:
C = Gray/Brown Stripe
NO = Yellow/Orange Stripe
NC = Gray/Black Stripe

Change Request (the red "Change" or "Service" button a player would use to call an attendant):
C = Gray/Black Stripe
NO = Yellow/Blue Stripe
NC = [open] (nothing connected to this -- it's the end of the series)

(For what it's worth, I had the wires for the change button reversed on my machine (Yellow/Blue going to C, and Gray/Black going to NO), and it works fine, but likely because it's at the end of the series.  I see now that they're reversed, and have what I believe to be the "correct" wiring listed above.)

[Big D]

Thanks for the wire info Knagl, but thats not quite what I need.


Since this machine was originally a keno machine the wiring harness dosn't have the wires for the hold button since they don't exist in keno.


I removed the "keyboard" device (not sure what else to call it) from the front of the machine and replaced it with belly glass from ebay.


Now I have added the hold buttons and ran wire from the buttons back to the molex connector and I have all but the one button working.


I have tried all the empty spots in the connector but make the button work.


I even swapped the mother board with a spare to eliminate that as the problem.


Not sure what to try next...

[knagl]

Understood.  I've always called the keno thing the "keno keyboard" myself, for lack of any other term.

I only know enough to be dangerous when it comes to reading the schematics, but it sure looks like the five hold buttons are in order in the motherboard connection.  For the four you have working (1, 2, 4, and 5), are they "in order" in the molex connector?  If so, that would confirm that hold 3 (the middle one) should indeed go right into the middle of the five hold switch wires.  If you've tried that without success, is it possible you have a bad pin or receptacle in the connector?

I've attached a troubleshooting page which might help, and I'll also send you an e-mail with a file that might be useful to you.

Best of luck -- let us know if you get it figured out.

[Big D]

Thanks for the pictures
I will try to wire the button to the molex connector pin that you ID'ed in the picture tonight when I get home.
My fingers are crossed.