Why is this game so hard to find? Triple Double Diamond Free Games

[Sunrise Side]

My local tribal casino took 8 of these games to the scrapyard along with a semi load of others. Now there is less available. Can't get the tribal members to sell them to me for more than scrap value.

[Stayouttadabunker]

They're bound by tribal compact agreement with the state's gambling commision.
Can't just sell machines to any Joe Blow.
They're either destroyed, or sent to auctions....easier to just scrap them.
My suggestion would be...go get a license & open up a local scrapyard? 

[AceStrategist]

My local tribal casino took 8 of these games to the scrapyard along with a semi load of others. Now there is less available. Can't get the tribal members to sell them to me for more than scrap value.

Wouldn't they be class 2 games (bingo etc.) if they were from a tribal casino?

[Stayouttadabunker]

No, not always.
It depends on the agreements in the compact between the native tribes, and the particular State.
They are not all written the same way by the State lawyers.

[Sunrise Side]

They're bound by tribal compact agreement with the state's gambling commision.
Can't just sell machines to any Joe Blow.
They're either destroyed, or sent to auctions....easier to just scrap them.
My suggestion would be...go get a license & open up a local scrapyard? 

There's no  State regulations in in tribal casinos in Michigan.  Maybe some Federal??

[Stayouttadabunker]

Maybe this link below, will help you with your question?....>>

https://www.michigan.gov/mgcb/tribal-casinos/tribal-state-compacts-in-michigan

[Sunrise Side]

Soaring Eagle Mt Pleasant Michigan

[Sunrise Side]

Maybe this link below, will help you with your question?....>>

https://www.michigan.gov/mgcb/tribal-casinos/tribal-state-compacts-in-michigan

Your right  , some are.

[Stayouttadabunker]

There are tribal Indians and there are traditional sovereign native nations.
The tribal Indians are dependent sovereign nations...which doesn't make sense...how can they be sovereign if they have to ask for permission to run a casino?  See what I mean?
It's really a scam by the States...remember, the States weren't allowed to own casinos...only Nevada and New Jersey had them for the longest time.

On the flip side, the aboriginal traditional independent native nations that reside here, have been on this continent before there ever was such a thing as United States.
They don't need permission from any federal government to own, or run a casino.

That's the major difference that the States really don't want people to know about.
They'd much rather promote tribally-run casinos to the public, because they're bound by compact agreements to give away a high percentage of casino profits both, to the States, and neighboring counties.
Not all tribal compacts in different States are written by the lawyers the same way either.

I've worked in both, and you can really see the differences inside.

[AceStrategist]

How difficult would a game-change be from a game that has the correct button arrangement?  I would like to keep both games working and easily swap-able if possible.  Are there specific features I should look for outside of buttons?  Like should I pick games that also have "free games" for better compatibility, backlit reels, does 3, 4 or 5 reels matter?  I'm fine with getting a second set of reels to avoid having to swap reel strips.

[Stayouttadabunker]

That's a great question!
I once had two button decks (single row & double row) to swap between, but it's so much work to change decks that I decided to get extra cabinets instead...haha
Joking around, the old saying that "slots multiply at night" rang true in my workroom 
It really matters what games you like to play...that will have weight in what cabinet configuration you'd prefer most.
To further add to the above, I also had to add a "Vision-ready" cabinet - to accommodate that platform.
I love fooling around with the different Vision games....IGT's first video-reel hybrid.

[AceStrategist]

Right now I have a Jennings Standard Chief nickel machine and want to get into the electronic games which have more bells and whistles you know.
What about the sound SIMM?  It was mentioned I could find the glass and chips for the game but this has a "free games" function which would need a SIMM, are those easier or harder to find than the game itself?

[Stayouttadabunker]

I just looked at the DSV Sound SIMM List in the NLG File System.
I don't see your game title in the DSV List.
You could probably get away with using a...>>> DSV00042   GENERIC S2000 SOUND SIMM

The MPU would need to have a MML (Multi Media Lite) piggyback board that has the socket for the SIMM card.

  Please disregard my Reply....I like Sixcardmark's answer better below.

[sixcardmark]

Once again I believe this game uses an enhanced board that does not use a MML2 board.  Sound simm is built into the R board.

[a69mopar]

Once again I believe this game uses an enhanced board that does not use a MML2 board.  Sound simm is built into the R board.

[AceStrategist]

Which R board should I be looking for to get the correct soundtrack?

[RB]

Which R board should I be looking for to get the correct soundtrack?

Reply#15 states: SB101453 with RG000054  previously RG000013, but replaced by RG000054 which is correct for 3 reel free spin type 165 games. The change notice number is cn4690.

Docs attached.

[AceStrategist]

If the machine I end up buying accepts quarters coin in/out what happens when a 1 cent game is played?  Will each quarter add 25 credits, valid for 25 1 line, 1 cent spins for example?  What happens if you have an 'improper' amount of credits remaining ex. 80 and press cash out?   Will it drop 3 quarters and leave 5 credits on the machine, or need a 'hand pay' for the remaining 5 cents? 
I want to avoid disabling/removing the coin mechanism since it works well with other "higher denomination" games like Haywire, Deluxe, Sizzling 7s etc.

[jay]

Coin handling on the S+ and S2000 are single denomination only.
If the machine is setup for coins then you get to use 1 coin type.

Lets assume you went with Pennies - you hit a top payout for 1199 coins - the hopper would spit out approximately 300 pennies then go into hand pay for the rest.
Note the term coins[/b] as the machine is oblivious to what denomination it is using.
When a bill validator is in play bills simply get translated to credits based on what denomination is set on the validator.

This is where the ticket printer became so popular. Subsequently bettor-tito (S2000 only)  was invented for the home users so you could feed back in the printed ticket.

[AceStrategist]

In a machine with both coin in/out and a bill validator is it possible for the coin denomination to be higher than the accounting/player denomination?  Say you're using quarters but want each quarter to be worth 25 credits?