Author Topic: Red, White, Blue S+ machine (Read 1637 times)

Busser0554 · « **Reply #40 on:** January 05, 2024, 05:55:45 AM »

Okay thanks I'll grab some photos after work..

twinfire · « **Reply #41 on:** January 05, 2024, 01:44:52 PM »

His plug does look different though, has a weird flange on it?

I have two S-Plus machines, both coin comparator plugs look exactly the same.

Just thought I’d throw this pic of mine in the mix for reference.

Busser0554 · « **Reply #42 on:** January 05, 2024, 01:53:21 PM »

Black wire is there just buried.

Stayouttadabunker · « **Reply #43 on:** January 05, 2024, 01:57:20 PM »

Hmm...okay.
I have no idea what's going on with that harness.
It looks like a housing/wiring tab of some sort.
I'd pull that black harness out of there from behin the CC and re-route it behind the metal CC bracket instead....it could be blocking the rake from opening up to direct coins to the hopper.

Try pressing the little white Service Coin button on the coin-in optics board a couple of times.
Does it ring up a couple of credits to play with the door opened?
I'm assuming your speaker is working and the volume is turned up a little?

Twinfire...your CC photo is ten times larger and clearer than Busser's....that's awesome!
Busser's photo is only 86kb while yours is 866kb....photos CAN be up to 1000kb in size.

Busser0554 · « **Reply #44 on:** January 05, 2024, 03:22:45 PM »

I'll reroute the wires.. speaker works in the output tests but that's the only time I hear it. Mostly... It dinged once when I was cleaning the optic for the hopper coin out.. doesn't make noise on start up. Also the white service coin button on the ABC does not give credits with the door open. Happy Friday all!!

Busser0554 · « **Reply #45 on:** January 05, 2024, 03:43:01 PM »

Clipped Q4 and it's working!!!! You guys are great I will definitely donate to the cause.. as I'm kind of addicted now. My guess to fixing it the right way would be a new abc?

jay · « **Reply #46 on:** January 05, 2024, 03:47:57 PM »

Yes - replacing the ABC is the right way to go, when you get around to it......

Three-ish questions:
1. Does your test credit button work now that Q4 is gone.
2. If you release the strap on your rake does it work correctly. If not you might want to get the solenoid replaced while your at it.
3. Does the header on your Bill Validator light up, and if so does it take $1.00's

Busser0554 · « **Reply #47 on:** January 05, 2024, 04:10:08 PM »

Test credit still doesn't work. The rake doesn't work without the shim under it and the machine doesnt have a bill validator in it. But I'd like one

Stayouttadabunker · « **Reply #48 on:** January 05, 2024, 05:08:47 PM »

A slot machine without a bill validator in it would explain why the yellow $1-$100 yellow light does't come on.
Jim of Midwest slots has a phone number listed on the NLG homepage.
He would have all the parts you need.....tell him I sent ya! lol

Busser0554 · « **Reply #49 on:** January 05, 2024, 05:24:28 PM »

I'll definitely look him up.

Jim · « **Reply #50 on:** January 05, 2024, 05:35:09 PM »

don't waist your money buying a used ABC optic board. yours will work as is for a long time, doesn't interfere with any machine functions.

have had machines working like that for 10 years .

take a picture of what you have for a bill unit, also the inner door around the door bezel, want to see if the lamp board is there.

Jim

twinfire · « **Reply #51 on:** January 05, 2024, 05:41:29 PM »

Congratulations on getting your machine up & running again!

Being the curious type, I now have a couple questions regarding the “Q4 transistor”:

1. Why is everyone cutting it out & not replacing it?

2. Is it because nobody really knows what it is, or where to buy it?

If anyone has the answers please share.

jay · « **Reply #52 on:** January 05, 2024, 05:54:34 PM »

Q4 is not necessarily bad.
In the absence of it, it bypasses the inhibit function.
What is wrong with the optics board differs from one to the next.
They are cheap enough to replace entirely, but you’re stuck in the mud until you have one.
So castration is the easiest interim (or as suggested long term) solution.

Stayouttadabunker · « **Reply #53 on:** January 05, 2024, 06:02:50 PM »

The switching transistor is a dime-a-dozen at places like Mouser, Futurelec, Jameco, Digi-Key, TTL, and other electronic stores.
Personally, I don't completely understand schematic drawings that well enough to know what the Q2,Q4 switches on/off.
Like Jay said, it has something to do with the inhibit line of the circuitry as you see in the Reply#24 drawings I posted up.
I DO however, like just slicing them off, and playing the machine - that's the ultimate goal.

twinfire · « **Reply #54 on:** January 05, 2024, 07:27:04 PM »

Thanks guys, appreciate the explanations.

Jay, nicely put, thank you, especially the castration part

Stayouttadabunker, I went back & checked out the diagram you posted, nice, includes part numbers too! I didn’t notice it before, thanks for posting that.

I am trying to keep track of all the workarounds I learn here for future use on my machines if needed.

Thanks again all!

Busser0554 · « **Reply #55 on:** January 08, 2024, 11:12:23 AM »

Bill validator location photos

Busser0554 · « **Reply #56 on:** January 08, 2024, 11:15:36 AM »

Stayouttadabunker · « **Reply #57 on:** January 08, 2024, 01:06:23 PM »

Show Jim of Midwest Slots the top picture in Reply #55, and he'll send you a JCM DBV-200 with the updated bill firmware chip.
Do you have the metal cashbox?

Busser0554 · « **Reply #58 on:** January 08, 2024, 01:32:26 PM »

I don't. I will send him a message thanks

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