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Bally Questions and confusion
« on: October 01, 2020, 10:52:14 PM »
Hi all.  "D" here.  Just picked up my first Bally machine and I must admit I'm a bit confused.  First off, its nameplate lists it as either a 932'2 124 or a 932'2 224 made in Dublin Ireland.  This is my first confusing bit as the number 1 and 2 are stamped over each other in the "124"section of the ID number?


Going further,I have a few Questions that I hope some of you kind folks that know a lot more than me can help me with.


My only slot experience to date is on my Rotoslot and my Seeburg.  While the Seeburg is similar to the Bally, This Bally seems to be missing things, or they may well be hiding from my inexperienced view.


1.  On the upper right front section of the machine there is a metal plate running the length of the front glass.  It has pop rivets holding it in place and I can't understand its purpose?


2.  On the front of the main body of the machine where the word Bally is located, there is a fluorescent light tube.  When I place a ballast starter in the socket it wants to light up but won't stay lit.  When I place a second starter in the right socket nothing happens at all.  I believe I can get the tube to stay on if I replace it and the associated starter, but I can't figure out how to get to the tube?  My Seeburg has an internal door within the outer one to access bulbs and other items but I see none on the Bally??  Also I'm not sure what the right transformer and starter are even for??


3.  On my Seeburg there is a wiffleball looking pingpong ball sized ball attached to an arm that lets the machine know when the main hopper is full and triggers a switch that sends coins down a chute and into the stand that the machine sits on as to not overfill the main hopper.  On this Bally it looks like there is some kind of set up for coins to go through a hole in the bottom, but I can't for the life of me see a way for the coins to get there.  Also, there doesn't seem to be a way for the main hopper to signal that it is full?  I'm starting to think this machine is parted together from different models but I don't know enough about Bally machines to even guess.


 I"ll put a few pictures in to try to show the issues I'm facing.  Any help would be appreciated and of course,  Thank you all in advance!  I'm trying to learn as I go without losing what little mind I have!! lol  Thanks again!

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Re: Bally Questions and confusion
« Reply #1 on: October 02, 2020, 06:41:24 PM »
It appears that this machine has some major modifications.
The aluminum plate / panel is taking up space.
As there was most likely a piece of glass that fit the complete width of the opening.


 The 777 jackpots usually pay much higher than 40 coins.


There are post on this Bally EM site regarding replacing the belly lamp.

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Re: Bally Questions and confusion
« Reply #2 on: October 02, 2020, 09:37:52 PM »
Thank you!  Also I took more pictures of the strange side glass section.  It seems it was factory made as the finish it very clean and the metal strip at the bottom of the glass does not have any strange or uneven cut marks on it.  The previous owner says it used to have pushbuttons for calling a hostess for cocktails and the like.  Not sure if that is correct.  But, it seems to have been done for a specific reason.  Hopefully someone will know.  Still need to get starters and lamps, but it's coming together.  Also, I saw a few pics in the forums of the ping-wiffleball type assembly on the hopper and I'm assuming i'm also missing the device that moves quarters from the main hopper to the drop out hole.  Hopefully I'll find the assemblies and figure out how to install them!

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Re: Bally Questions and confusion
« Reply #3 on: October 02, 2020, 09:48:25 PM »
That machine is missing some of its original parts. It was a 932 and called an "Add A Line". The aluminum plate would have originally had a matching wood panel with a couple of coin slots. The top slot would have been 5p for one play. The second slot would have allowed the player to make change from larger 50p coins and would have returned 5 10p coins to the player. The main coin head accepted 10p coins good for 2 plays. The missing left reel would have been red and indicated bonus lines that would also pay if a winning combination appeared in that row.
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Re: Bally Questions and confusion
« Reply #4 on: October 02, 2020, 09:56:02 PM »
To remove the belly glass,  remove screws in the red circles and pull the top of the belly glass frame forward and then up to remove. One starter is for the belly glass and the other starter is for the small light tube above the reel windows.
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Re: Bally Questions and confusion
« Reply #5 on: October 02, 2020, 10:03:24 PM »
I did a quick image search and found this.
Bally 742A-240, 742A-107B, 785-ZP, 809-B, 831-R, 873-K, 1113, 1239-E, 1256-E, V2236-10, V2096-47, S5000+, V5000+, S5500, S6000, IGT PE, Flip-It, Jennings 400, WMS BB1 Goldfish

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Re: Bally Questions and confusion
« Reply #6 on: October 02, 2020, 10:08:22 PM »
I knew I had the flyer somewhere.
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Re: Bally Questions and confusion
« Reply #7 on: October 02, 2020, 10:23:02 PM »
Your hopper is missing the float switch that was attached to the wiffle ball. If you look at the hopper at about the 2 o'clock position,  you'll see 2 offset  threaded holes in the hopper surface. It mounts there and not a difficult part to find.  This switch would control a door mounted coin deflector that directed the coins to the missing coin box in your machine.  The coin deflector assembly with coin ramp are missing but also fairly easy to find.  The coin box itself won't be as easy to find. You'd be better off making one from galvanized sheet. In the end, you have a 932 that has basically been converted to a 742-A.
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Re: Bally Questions and confusion
« Reply #8 on: October 02, 2020, 11:48:07 PM »
thank you all so so much!!!  I'll get to work!! is there any glass I can replace the upper one with that would match the machine?  Thanks again!!!

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Re: Bally Questions and confusion
« Reply #9 on: October 03, 2020, 05:50:00 AM »
Mr. Jeep

Thanks for the photo.
Like the old saying goes, "one picture is worth a thousand words".

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Re: Bally Questions and confusion
« Reply #10 on: October 03, 2020, 07:13:20 AM »
is there any glass I can replace the upper one with that would match the machine?  Thanks again!!!
The best option I see for the glass is to use a piece of either plexiglass or glass in place of the metal blank and either use solid black window film or black paint on the backside. Of course you could always have an entire new sheet made, but that’s going to be pricey (at least a couple of hundred). You definitely can brighten things up a bit by having the payout backfills remade. The reel tapes can also be replaced. Carefully lift the end of the tapes and there will be some numbers you’ll need to reference to. Look for Scott Bennet on Facebook and let him know what they are. There’s a good chance he’ll have them. Just note that decals were added to your reel strips and will need to be replaced in order for the hopper payouts to match. I see at least 1 “lemon” and 1 “7”. I’m wondering if under that 7 is a blue star.


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