S+ Double Diamond Shut Off at Cash Out

[Shaggy]

I had one (not an s+) that the screws with the springs were tightened down so much it pinched the shelf and wouldn't let it turn.

[Jim]

The hopper is the easiest thing to work on, don't make it complicated.  it only does three things, turns the motor, counts the coins and gives a signal to the divert the coins  when the bowl is filled.

The motor (or turning)  part can be checked out of the machine. Manually--hold motor brake arm so that the arm comes in contact with the motor armature, reach in and turn the rubber star agitator CCW, (it takes some force to do this---NOTE if this was a dollar hopper converted to a Quarter hopper you may not be able to move it by hand--- the gear box had a different ratio than that of a quarter)  Electrically---  make a cheater cord ( a power cord that has a plug on one end and two push on connectors on the other end ---the push on connectors should be the same size as the motor) remove the two wires attached to the motor, and  replace them with the cheater cord push on connectors, plug the other end into a fuse protected, power on/off switch type power strip, use the on/ off switch to apply 115vac to the hopper motor, it should turn the motor on and it should run as long as power is applied. If the motor runs then the motor and gear box are doing what they should be doing.
One reason the motor could be binding---- long screws holding the star agitator, they will protrude beyond the wheel and rub against the metal housing frame. you can observe this by removing the bowl and actually looking at the underside of the pinwheel, its would be quite obvious.
the bowl can be removed easily, remove the four screws two black and two silver, remove any weight springs, you may have to turn the bowl assembly CCW to get it to clear the coin knife washers. with the bowl off you can look at everything and inspect knife and all operating parts.
The bowl goes on just as it came off. you will need a LONG screwdriver to get the one screw off, the holes in the bowl are made for this purpose. the black screws are on the top, left and right, the silver screws are on the bottom, left and right.

Hope this helps

Jim


   

[mvco]

I know this is going to sound strange, but I had this same exact issue.  The fuse would blow anytime the hopper was plugged in.  After swapping hoppers, I was like WTF, the fuse blows on multiple hoppers.  I have no idea why this would make sense, but my problem ended up being one of the handle solenoid wires touching the cabinet.  All I can figure is maybe removing the hopper takes away the voltage path to that area?  Anyway, does not hurt to check that solenoid area for shorts.  I need to get a schematic to see if that could make some sense of things.

[Fordman7795]

I took the hopper motor apart and cleaned the armature. The hopper spun smooth with it out. Put it all back together and it works great. For the first few attempts it kept shorting me one coin. But now it seems to be spot on. Thanks for all the help. Next is to figure out the coin comparitor.

[72polara]

Great news!!! Glad you got it to work. One thing down, another to go.

Make sure the sample coin is in proper position, and maybe try another coin. Mine on occasion will act up and not take coins. I guess I need to do the calibration procedure on it.

By the time you get that machine 100%, you'll be a first rate slot mechanic!

Josh

[cowboygames]

If you have questions on your coin comparison go ahead and start a new topic for that, thank you