Another new person to slots....igt s+ double diamond, stuck in idle door open

[falconross]

Badbaud, you mentioned a 6v fuse, where is that again?

[Jim]

did you measure the voltage at the optics?  did you try and touching the two wires that you unhooked from the jackpot reset key switch, this would simulate the key turning and completing the circuit.  while doing that observe the display and see if anything changes.

Jim

[Badbaud]

Is there a pin and latch arrangement to release the belly door?

[falconross]

I checked meter on both door optic sensors and got readings for both, so I think that part is working.  As far as belly release, there is a knurled know next to door release knob that you have to pull out to release the belly door.  I don't see any sort of wires or anything that tells the machine the belly door is open.

[falconross]

Thinking back to when machine somewhat worked.....I replaced battery, got rid of #12 error.  After new battery got the 61 error code, was able to reset with reset button and jackpot key.  Different error codes came up on LED display and reset button was working.  At one point reset button for whatever reason quit working and I pulled and reseated computer board and that fixed problem.  A bit later reset button quit working again and was unable to fix problem by reseating computer board.  This was about 2 weeks ago so i'm somewhat foggy about the exact sequence of events.  But I do know that that is when I noticed current 1_0 error that I have know. 

[rokgpsman]

This has been a fairly long discussion so I didn't read all the way back. When you replaced the battery on the mpu did you examine it closely to see if there was any battery leakage or other damage to the circuit board? If the mpu board has any suspicious coating or residue on it then post a photo of it so we can see what you have. It doesn't normally take this long or this many posts to resolve an issue like yours, so something may have been missed in the steps taken up till now.

friendly advice-
It is helpful to use the right terms or words so everyone clearly understands. Unless your machine has been modified by someone your machine does not have a "reset button". There is a white TEST button inside the machine near the power switch. There is a RESET SWITCH on the outside of the machine near the pull handle, it requires a key to operate. There is a COIN TEST (pseudo coin) switch on the coin optic board just below the coin comparitor. You mentioned earlier that this was all new to you, so it will help you to learn the right way to describe things. These machines have problems now and then and you'll save yourself a lot of time and possible frustration if you can get familiar with the parts of your machine. There are many, many IGT S+ repair discussions here on NLG, some of them relate to similar problems your machine has. Reading thru them will give you a better understanding of your machine, and before long you will be able to help others that just got their first machine.

[falconross]

I took a look at the board and it looked pretty clean, so does the battery.   I really think this is something I might have caused by either using the jackpot key too much or reseating the board.  I did take apart the coin comparitor as I thought that is where the problem was and then noticed the idle door closed error. 

[rokgpsman]

I'm pretty sure you can turn the jackpot reset key all you want and nothing bad happens. The machine will just ignore the switch unless it is waiting for it to be turned.

The battery leakage sometimes is faint, or someone may have cleaned it in the past and it doesn't look damaged but over time it fails. If you have another mpu board you can try it to see if that fixes your machine. Also check for bent pins on connectors on circuit boards and wiring cables. At some point if you don't discover what is causing the problem you may need to try swapping things like the mpu to find out what is working and what is not working. Do you have access to another working S+ machine?

Also, just to make-sure, this is an upright machine, not a slant top. right?

Don't hesitate to post photos of your machine, inside and out, it can really help the people here that want to help but aren't sure what has been done or what you've got. Over the years these machines sometimes get worked on by a lot of people, sometimes things are not in original configuration. Photos are great at showing us what you have.

[falconross]

As far as the jackpot key, I thought I read somewhere after the fact, not to turn it that much...oh well, too late now.  As far as slant top, the top is slanted, if that is what you mean...still kind of learning all the lingo, so forgive me.  Unfortunately, I do not have access to another board, or machine.  I did look at the board  and noticed some of the wires coming out of the large white plugs at the bottom of the board were slightly bent, but I managed to straighten them, but still nothing. 


As far as pictures, for some reason having a hard time....I will as soon as I get that squared away. 

[rokgpsman]

As far as the jackpot key, I thought I read somewhere after the fact, not to turn it that much...oh well, too late now.  As far as slant top, the top is slanted, if that is what you mean...still kind of learning all the lingo, so forgive me.  Unfortunately, I do not have access to another board, or machine.  I did look at the board  and noticed some of the wires coming out of the large white plugs at the bottom of the board were slightly bent, but I managed to straighten them, but still nothing. 

As far as pictures, for some reason having a hard time....I will as soon as I get that squared away. 

OK, knowing that the machine is a slant top style can be really helpful to know, they have some additional security switches that the upright machines don't have. Any of those security switches could be telling the machine that the machine is not properly closed. The top part of the machine lifts up so you can see inside. When it is closed there are switches on the base that should activate. Also the front panel of the base opens, there are security switches there. You will need to carefully look over your machine, find the wires and switches that have to do with sensing that the machine is completely closed.

The wires coming out of the board that were bent, do you mean the electrical contacts (pins) that are part of the large connectors on the edge of the board? If so, why were they bent? Is there damage to the mating connector on the motherboard? I think it best if we know more about this, and again photos would help us to see what you have there. Is this the same circuit board (mpu) that you replaced the battery, correct? We need you to post photos, will be hard to help without them.

When attaching photos it is better if they are not giant-sized image files. Nowadays digital cameras and phones take high res photos that create big files. If you have a setting on your camera to reduce the size of the photo that might make it easier for you to attach the photo files here on NLG. Or email the photos to me and I will post them for you. You can contact me by clicking on the "private message" icon on the left side of this message.

This is an example of what a slant top machine looks like. If this is what you have it is important to know that.

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[therockinelvis]

I have been working on S+ machines for a while and never have I came across a "idle door closed error". I have no idea what it is. I read that you have a 1 somewhere and a 0 somewhere and that sound's like stuck in a test mode to me. Pictures would help so much. What area do you live? Maybe a member is close by to help.

[therockinelvis]

I think he has a 16" top. Thus the slant. Maybe wrong, just my interpretation.

[rokgpsman]

Could be an upright, photos would really help. Lots of suggestions have been tried but no solution yet, so I thought we should make sure nothing odd was going on.

And a photo showing that error message would be very helpful. Not long ago we had someone with a problem on their IGT machine, turned out it was a Bally. Not saying that's the deal here, but we shouldn't make too many assumptions. Photos are so important on harder problems.

[therockinelvis]

 

[falconross]

Here is a picture of the machine....front what I gather, it is not a slant top, sorry for the confusion

[falconross]

Here is a picture of the error code, or at least that is what I am calling it.  There is a 1 in the winners paid display and a 0 in the credits display.  I agree, test mode sounds like a good explanation.  I've been thinking the whole time that I induced this problem as it was responsive to the reset button and not displaying this error, then all of a sudden after me messing with it, I wound up in this situation.

[falconross]

To everyone who has chimed in, thanks for your patience in helping me with this!  I think I got my camera settings adjusted allowing me to attach pictures.  Let me know what other pictures might help.


thanks!

[Badbaud]

Open the door, step back a bit,  and send a picture of the inside please.

[falconross]

inside of door

[falconross]

inside of machine