Older Double Diamond Video Slot Machine Not Working

[Trooper11040]

So I am not a slot machine guy...but a pinball guy...today I saw a post on FB Marketplace for an older style Double Diamond Video Slot Machine from IGT.  The guy said it wasnt working, and had no keys, etc.  I gave him $75 bucks and brought it home...drilled out the key and all it needed was to be turned on. 


I got it up and running but can't play it.  I keep getting a "Call Attendant Coin in Timeout"  I did notice that there is no coin comparator in place.  The jackpot reset is basically two wires that need touched together inside the cabinet...there was no key for that either so someone unwired them I guess.  The screen isn't at full width for whatever reason and I think needs replaced.  I know nothing about these games and would love to have it up and running and either just keep it for nostalgic reasons or sell it and make my $$ back. I'm not sure if this machine is a IGT PE or PE+...Ive attached some photos...anyone can help. i would be very grateful!

[rokgpsman]

I've not seen one of these machines but I think you could be right, it is an IGT PE or PE+ model video slot. Most PE and PE+ machines are setup for video poker, but yours simulates a 3 reel slot game.

You will need to add a coin comparitor, they are low-cost and you can get a good working one from someone here on NLG if you want to.

The reset keyswitch looks like the example in this link:
http://www.spininc.com/02562-0

The reset switch wires are normally "open" (not connected), then when you turn the key the wires are connected. This switch is used for a variety of reasons so it will be best if you replace it.

The door locks can be purchased from a lot of different places. It isn't needed that you lock the door, just that it is latched by pushing down on the latch post. But if you want to keep people out of the machine a lock is needed. May not want youngsters getting in there and finding electricity, or getting your coins.

[Trooper11040]

Would I need a certain coin comparator in particular?  I see various ones for sale on ebay


Dan

[rokgpsman]

yes, there are specific models of coin comparitors made for this machine, someone here will know what the model number is once the machine model is positively identified. The coin comparitor in my PE+ is a "CC-16D"

I'm not sure your screen width is wrong, that could be the way a video slot appears. The writing at the top of the screen does not appear to be "scrunched" or distorted.

We have some experts here on older IGT machines including the PE and PE+ models, they will give their opinions when they login, may take overnight so stay tuned.

[Trooper11040]

Do you have a photo of the wires attached to the jackpot reset?

[rokgpsman]

Do you have a photo of the wires attached to the jackpot reset?

No photo needed, the reset switch only has 2 terminals/screws, you can connect either wire to either terminal. It is a simple on-off switch. I added a photo of the reset switch in my reply#1 above, take a look at it.

[Trooper11040]

ah ok...it appears as whoever owned this prior hooked the two wires to a pinball style switch to be able to reach in and just click the button...Id like to get this back to working 100% again...think it would be pretty awesome!

[rokgpsman]

ah ok...it appears as whoever owned this prior hooked the two wires to a pinball style switch to be able to reach in and just click the button...Id like to get this back to working 100% again...think it would be pretty awesome!

That reset switch is normally "off", so in a pinch you can connect it to any switch that is normally off. The voltage on the reset switch wires is low, no danger of getting shocked.

My guess is the coin-in timeout error is because the coin comparitor is missing.

It is an attractive machine, for $75 you can't get hurt if you decide to sell it. But they are a lot of fun to play and add a different type of fun to a game room or basement.

I brightened your photos a little so I could see some details and added a few notes to the photos in case something comes up later and you need the info. The door optic sensors are how the machine knows when the door is open or closed. The coin optic boards detect the coin falling past them and they send a signal to the main logic board (called the "mpu") and it adds a credit to the machine.

[Trooper11040]

Thank you very much for your help...ill try to get one of these coin comp. installed and go from there

[Trooper11040]

Also do you think $75 bucks was good or bad?  i have no idea what these things are worth

[rokgpsman]

Also do you think $75 bucks was good or bad?  i have no idea what these things are worth

If you lived within a couple of hours from me I'd give you $75 for it this afternoon.   

(but this is a slot machine hobby interest place, so most folks here are a little bonkers for machines like this)

I think you got a good deal, it looks clean, no broken glass, just needs a reset switch and a coin comparitor. There may be something else wrong but probably not. You will want to pull out the mpu board and make sure the battery isn't leaking and damaging it.

UPDATE- I think it may be a PE (not a PE+) because it does not have an internal bill validator, but that's just a guess. The real way to tell is what the mpu board looks like. So post a photo of it when you can.

[Amechanic]

It work the $75 all day. Your adjustment knobs for the monitor are located on top of the monitor. The far right one is the contrast, the other 4 control the screens width and height along with centering side to side and up and down.

[rokgpsman]

Thank you very much for your help...ill try to get one of these coin comp. installed and go from there

you might want to wait until someone confirms what model coin comparitor you need, I'm far from expert on these, don't want you to buy something and it be wrong.

[Trooper11040]

The screen adjustment knobs work except for the far left one which I believe to be the adjustment left to right. Wonder if it’s nust a dirty pot and needs a new knob

[Trooper11040]

Here is a photo of the CPU...


Also does anyone know where I could get a new one of these push button things since I want to clean this up a bit?

[Amechanic]

Since this is the first one of this style I’ve see, your best bet might be to take the button deck apart, then take that plate to a company that does powder coating and has it done in a silver or ceramic color. Your not going to find a replacement, and to have it chromed would cost more then what you paid for the game. You can fine the the monitor adjuster board on EBay. It should come up under 1492 Ceronix.

[63mini]

*** Amechanic beat me to it. However, it may still be worth it to pull it and have someone locally give you a quote. If you can not do it locally you could send it out.


 The button panel may be tough to find a new one. You may need to pop that out and take it to someone who does chrome plating.

[rokgpsman]

Here is your mpu board photo, I've circled the game software chips in yellow. I *believe* this is called a single game board, IGT also made a Superboard that we see in machines for Video Poker, it allowed for expanded game software that contained 5 different video poker games, you select the one you want to play from a menu on screen. Also, you may have already found out the round blue knob is the volume control for the game sounds. And inside the machine there should be a white TEST button you can press and enter the setup and diagnostic menu system. You press the TEST button repeatedly to step thru the screens.

If you wanted to change the game software to video poker you'd have to change the button panel and probably wiring harness, a video poker machine has several more pushbuttons.

I'm still not sure if this is a PE or a PE+ machine.

[Amechanic]

*** Amechanic beat me to it. However, it may still be worth it to pull it and have someone locally give you a quote. If you can not do it locally you could send it out.
 The button panel may be tough to find a new one. You may need to pop that out and take it to someone who does chrome plating.

I have a deck button panel re-chromed last year. It cost me $75 to have it done and it too 6-8 weeks to get back. Next time I’m doing powder coating. The ceramic coating it close to chrome, just not as shiny.

[63mini]

I have a deck button panel re-chromed last year. It cost me $75 to have it done and it too 6-8 weeks to get back. Next time I’m doing powder coating. The ceramic coating it close to chrome, just not as shiny.

 Well, it's been a couple of years. But, that piece should be a $30-40 piece max. We used to have a large piece that was sand cast (rough) then ground and chromed for $190. That piece weighed 60# too (It used to piss the polisher off holding that 60# piece up to the wheel). We even had California EPA regulations where it was done.


 As, for time. Yeah. They are a bit slow. It would take us 3-4 weeks to get product done. Powder coating is an option but, it's not chrome and for us it never wore well compared to chrome. For us powder coating was about the same price.


 I would suggest you send your photos and dimensions to a few online Plating Co. for quotes if you can not do it locally. You don't have anything to loose to get the quotes.


 ***One last option could be to look into a chrome wrap material. You would need to clean up the material before applying it. As for durability I don't know. But, it would be the cheapest.