Author Topic: Question about powering up an S2000 (Read 2904 times)

Amechanic · « **on:** May 23, 2018, 02:22:49 PM »

I would like to hear other peopleâ€™s opinions on powering on the S2000. Does it hurt the game in any way if you have it hooked up to a power source like a power strip? Does the game need to be only turned off by the inside switch to help keep memory intact and reduce the chance of the power surge from the outside plug causing machine issues? Reason I ask is because I have one game I sold to a husband and wife, and they have called me 3-4 times with odd ball things like a reel tilt on start up, and today with something about the machines alarms going off with a message checking memory or something like that?? Can the MPU Battery be drained fasted if the games not plugged and turned off by a power strip. The battery was new in December of 2017

cowboygames · « **Reply #1 on:** May 23, 2018, 02:46:14 PM »

Simple answer? Power strip is fine and there's no difference between using that or the inside switch. The cmos battery drains anytime the machine is turned off. Power strip is only better because the machine is protected whether it's on or off

rokgpsman · « **Reply #2 on:** May 23, 2018, 02:47:47 PM »

Personally I don't think it makes any difference to the machine if it is switched on & off by using the main power switch in the machine, or by using the switch on a power strip. Either way the electricity is quickly applied to the machine's power supply. They are probably using the power strip so they don't have to open the door each time they want to turn the machine on or off.

To me there is an advantage to using a power strip that is the kind that offers spike protection just for what it does to help protect the equipment. But that's not what you are asking about.

Amechanic · « **Reply #3 on:** May 23, 2018, 02:59:02 PM »

I didnâ€™t think it mattered with these games, but I just wanted to hear from others. I understand the advantage if using a power strip or surge protector. I guess this game is one of machines that are trouble makers, the one in a 100 or my luck 1 of 1000 that are trouble.

qbert · « **Reply #4 on:** May 23, 2018, 03:11:08 PM »

3 or 5 reel machine sometimes the SG chips used will cause reel tilt on start up. What SGs are you using? Super sensitive on Reel Touch machines.
Other questions like what is the history of the machine did it come off a riverboat or from a casino etc. Etc..

Rich

Amechanic · « **Reply #5 on:** May 23, 2018, 07:41:11 PM »

Itâ€™s a 3 reel game running 363. I rebuilt this machine, it was clean inside. I got a call today on my voice mail saying they had not played the game for a while and when they turned it on today it said checking memory and the alarms going off. They said they tried turning the reset key? Who knows why? Will the game do this if a batteryâ€™s low? Iâ€™ve only seen the low battery message.

rokgpsman · « **Reply #6 on:** May 23, 2018, 07:48:42 PM »

Quote from: Amechanic on May 23, 2018, 02:59:02 PM

I didnâ€™t think it mattered with these games, but I just wanted to hear from others. I understand the advantage if using a power strip or surge protector. I guess this game is one of machines that are trouble makers, the one in a 100 or my luck 1 of 1000 that are trouble.

It could be that it was working fine when you had it but something happened during transport to their place. We've all heard about machines acting up after they are moved. Connectors, circuit boards, etc get jiggled, so maybe it's just something that got shaken around. If they aren't very far away you could check all that. But if they are too distant maybe they or someone near them could check the connectors, reseat boards, etc.

As you no doubt know, this is one of the things that goes with selling a machine, they will call when anything happens.

qbert · « **Reply #7 on:** May 23, 2018, 07:54:00 PM »

Could most likely be. Is it a replaceable one or is it soldered in.
I'm thinking about a long and heated debate with Buzz a long time ago on why you should use the soldered in type for maximum reliability.
If it's replaceable have them put a new one in and have them turn the jackpot key. I have seen 500 series boards with battery holders that make really poor contact with the battery doing things like you described.
Many times you will not get a battery low indication. Voltage check is the best way 2.98 and below means replace.
Rich

Amechanic · « **Reply #8 on:** May 23, 2018, 08:51:51 PM »

Battery was new just before the machine was sold in December. I use coin battery holders and I run the larger 2354 battery. I have machines out there that have the same battery for 2-3 years now, and have never heard of a single problem.. You have heard that some people shouldn't have kids.. I think some people shouldn't own slot machines too..

rokgpsman · « **Reply #9 on:** May 23, 2018, 09:20:54 PM »

Quote from: Amechanic on May 23, 2018, 08:51:51 PM

.....You have heard that some people shouldn't have kids.. I think some people shouldn't own slot machines too..

I was thinking the very same thing recently.

Amechanic · « **Reply #10 on:** May 23, 2018, 09:30:57 PM »

Out of all the games Iâ€™ve sold or serviced over the years, this is the only one with problems. I canâ€™t believe they are all from a faulty machine. Everythingâ€™s been different.

qbert · « **Reply #11 on:** May 24, 2018, 04:21:18 AM »

OK so what's the cost of a battery? They can change it and turn the key. Your out almost zero time and at best you never hear from them again. If stuff keeps going on then you can pretty much know they are playing around inside. I have had batteries that were "new" not last very long.

Amechanic · « **Reply #12 on:** May 25, 2018, 01:16:04 PM »

Ok I have an up date. I just heard from the slot owner. The machine is doing the need to have the reset key turned and push and hold the white MPU button every time it powered on now. Once this is done it plays fine? Iâ€™m thinking the battery levels dropped but not low enough to throw the low battery message? What does everyone else think? The battery is only 6 months old..

Gary

rokgpsman · « **Reply #13 on:** May 25, 2018, 01:19:12 PM »

If the owner is able to change the battery themself that would be an easy thing to try to find out if that's the problem.

Amechanic · « **Reply #14 on:** May 25, 2018, 02:12:11 PM »

Problem is they donâ€™t have a spare and the 2354 is not a common battery like the 2032. Iâ€™m going to be in that area in the next day or two.

qbert · « **Reply #15 on:** May 25, 2018, 03:03:35 PM »

If your going there I would reseat all of the chips including the RAM chips. Remember those ram chip pins are brittle.

Amechanic · « **Reply #16 on:** June 03, 2018, 12:16:24 PM »

Quick follow up.. I went out and serviced this machine yesterday.. The person called any stated now the machines doing nothing and only the lights work.. I took a power supply and a new MPU battery with me. The battery was at 3.00V, not really that low for the problem the machine was experiencing. I replaced the power supply and powered up the game.. After going thru the reset key turning, the game worked.. Played for about 5 minutes and powered it down. After a minute I powered back on and no more problems.. Not sure if the 3.0V battery was my first problem or combined with something going wrong with the PS?? Only time will tell..

rokgpsman · « **Reply #17 on:** June 03, 2018, 02:28:17 PM »

If the power supply was on its last legs when they got it that might be what was causing the odd symptoms they were telling you about. A flaky power supply could make the machine do some weird stuff. Hopefully it will play great now for a long time.

Did you put a sticker on the side of the machine with your phone number
saying "24 hour service, call anytime" ??

Amechanic · « **Reply #18 on:** June 03, 2018, 02:37:47 PM »

Quote from: rokgpsman on June 03, 2018, 02:28:17 PM

If the power supply was on its last legs when they got it that might be what was causing the odd symptoms they were telling you about. A flaky power supply could make the machine do some weird stuff. Hopefully it will play great now for a long time.

Did you put a sticker on the side of the machine with your phone number
saying "24 hour service, call anytime" ??

I built and sold them this machine.. I know it's history..

rokgpsman · « **Reply #19 on:** June 03, 2018, 02:52:23 PM »

I knew you built the machine, was thinking the power supply you put in it could have had something about it that started acting up after it got to their house. If the power supply you put in was new then it's got warranty. If it wasn't new then it's like anything electrical, they don't last forever and can fail at an unpredictable time. It doesn't mean you made a mistake or missed something.

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