WTB Information Typically Found in Par Sheets

[jek187]

First off, apologies if I've placed this topic in the wrong place. I browsed all the sub-forums on this site, and to me, this seemed like the best spot. If I'm wrong, please be gentle.


I'm a hobbyist advantage player, and have lately had to spend a lot of time idle in casinos for various promotions. I have started working on various progressive slots, to figure out how high the jackpots have to be to become +EV. However, the time and cost associated with reverse engineering each game is adding up, plus I know my numbers are never exactly right (and my god, the OCD fits that gives me...). So, I'm hoping someone here has access to a number of par sheets from various progressive slot machines, and would either be willing to sell me copies of them, or sell me a few key numbers (jackpot cycle information is clearly #1, but seed values, meter rates, and payback % settings would also be very nice).


I realize that there's a reason these things aren't in the public domain, and you may be hesitant to part with this information to a new poster on this site. I totally get that, but I can do a few things to assuage potential doubts. For starters, I'd sign an NDA if you'd like. Also, I very much value my reputation in the gaming industry as an extremely honest individual, and I certainly wouldn't want this to negatively impact my rep. I have a minor claim to fame for those acquainted with the world of online poker in the 2003-2007 range as the founder of BonusWhores.com. Also, if you happen to be an AP and you're worried about me encroaching on your territory, please don't. I live in South Dakota, and have no plans to move to Vegas or any other slot Mecca.


I'll be watching this thread for any questions, and of course, my PMs/email as well. Thanks a lot!

[jek187]

If it helps at all, here are the specific games I'm looking for:

Aristocrat:
7-Up
Buffalo Stampede
Dragon Link
Fast Cash Multi-game
Gold Bonanza
Gold Class - Buffalo, Pompeii, Wicked Winnings
Gold Plays - Golden Princess
Gold Stacks - Golden Prosperity, Golden Zodiac
"Grand" games - 5 Dragons Grand, Buffalo Grand, Game of Thrones, Timber Wolf Grand
Jackpot Catcher
Jackpot Reel Power - White Tiger
Jackpot Streak - Sparkling Royal
Spin It Grand
Sugar Hit Jackpots
Super Wheel Blast
Weird Wicked & Wild

Aruze:
Gold Wheel
Towerstack: Bison, Lion, Wolf
Ultimate Eruption
Xtreme: Explosion, Tornado

Bally:
Better Off Ed
Fu Dao Le, Monty Python and the Holy Grail, Zhen Chan
Fu Yang
Ultimate Fire Link - China Street, Olvera Street

IGT:
Big 5 Safari
Candy Bars
Fast Hit Progressives
Fishing Bob
Fort Knox
Goddess of Gold
Money Storm Link
Whale Song
Wheel of Fortune - Hawaiian Getaway, New Orleans, Winning Wedges

Konami:
Quick Strike Quad - Celestial Celebration, Gypsy Fire
China Shores Jackpot
Lacky O' Leary
Monster Sweep
Quick Strike
Rich Drop Plop Plop Peach
Star Watch Fire

SC Gaming:
Lock It Link

SHFL:
88 Fortunes
Dancing Drums (this one also had a WMS logo on the machine)

WMS:
A "standard" slot with one jackpot all appear to be skins of the same base game, but not sure what to call the base game - 2X Wild & Crazy, 3-Alarm Fire, Gold, Gold, Gold, Wild Zone, Triple Golden Cherries
Bier Haus, Bier Haus 200, Colossal Bier Haus
Dancing in Rio
Double Buffalo Spirit
Far East Fortunes
Kronos Father of Zeus, Zeus Son of Kronos
Ruler of Luck

[knagl]

As someone who can't quite call himself an APer, I do consider myself to be more knowledgeable about slots than the average casino patron.  I applaud your attempt here to research this stuff.  Unfortunately, PAR sheets for the newer stuff you're looking for is hard to find for us average, non-professional slot tech folks.  I wish you luck in your endeavor, but as you know it's nearly impossible to get your hands on the info you're looking for unless you work in the industry.

[jek187]

Ain't that the truth!


I'm pretty much hoping for someone who does work in the industry to come along and help me (and themselves) out. For my list, we're definitely talking a 4-figure payment or even some sort of profit-sharing deal. Happy to pay a referral too if someone here knows someone who'll be helpful.