S2000 Coin comparitor problems.

[dutonP 1955]

Hi Jay  I looked at the coin comparator in my dad's slotmachine and it is a cc16 d 150 and the one in my igts2000 is a cc16 E what ever that means but anyway just thought I'd let you know the letter on the end of the numbers on both coin comparators.

[dutonP 1955]

Hi Jay I don't know if you got my other posts but I tried switching my sample coin to a quarter and it still isn't excepting coins they fall into the coin tray I pmed you the letter of both cc16 coin comparators you should be getting my PMes soon thanks.

[jay]

I was away for the weekend. Just got home.

Per my first post I do not have a s2000 so I can’t check my machine. I will need other members to jump in here. With that said I posted a table of coin comparitors. The E model appears to be for use with a Bally and not IGT. Once again some one else with a S2000 will need to validate which one is in their machine.

[Stayouttadabunker]

dutonP,
Maybe you just have a broken ground wire on the coin acceptor connector?...good chance it would be the black one.
It would be good to check it for continuity.
People tend to yank on the wires, instead of grasping the connector housing because that white tab that holds the connector to the CC is so tough to pull back with your fingertip.

Can you show us a good picture of your harness connectors that plugs into the coin-in optics board, and the coin comparitor?
The LED on your coin comparitor should be ON even when the door is opened, and the machine is powered ON.
It's different than an S+...on an S+ machine, that LED lite on the coin comparitor doesn't come on until the door is closed.

[Retro tech repair]

The letter has nothing to do with the voltage there are both 13v cc16d and cc16e coin comparators.

[dutonP 1955]

yea because the green is on to my cc16 E coin comparator it just isn't excepting nickels. if a slotmachine was coinles that a person bought could there be coin optics put in it and there done or would they have to key chip the coin optics into it? I'm wondering if that's were I went wrong if that's why its rejecting nickels I'm wondering?

[Stayouttadabunker]

Coinless Mode (Option: [7.2.5]
Use the Coinless option to enable or disable coinless mode.
When the machine is in coinless mode, the hopper and coin acceptor are disabled.

Use the following steps to enable or disable coinless mode:
1. Navigate through the list of values using the CHANGE and
CASH/CREDIT switches.
2. Press the PLAY MAX CREDITS switch to exit the screen and save
the changes, or press the SPIN REELS switch to reset the value to
the previous setting.

Without any credits on your machine, Use Keychip31 to get into the options settings to make changes.

[Retro tech repair]

Coinless Mode (Option: [7.2.5]
Use the Coinless option to enable or disable coinless mode.
When the machine is in coinless mode, the hopper and coin acceptor are disabled.

Use the following steps to enable or disable coinless mode:
1. Navigate through the list of values using the CHANGE and
CASH/CREDIT switches.
2. Press the PLAY MAX CREDITS switch to exit the screen and save
the changes, or press the SPIN REELS switch to reset the value to
the previous setting.

Without any credits on your machine, Use Keychip31 to get into the options settings to make changes.

100% agree except if you don’t already have key and clear chips get a key45 it is compatible with everything the 31 is and more. It is a big miss understanding in this hobby that they key and clear chips are board dependent they are not on the s2000 they are dependent on the sgchips but they are also backwards compatible with older software also. A key 45 should work for everything pre rboard. I think you said your games was a butterfly sevens if its the 4 reel version that may be an rboard game i can’t remember.

[Stayouttadabunker]

Good post Retro
I have a Keychip45 too.
I just never really needed it but yes I agree, if you're going to get one, get the Keychip45. 

[Sunrise Side]

S2000 13VDC comparitor will not work in Bally.  Bally comparitor will not work in S2000.  IGT S2000 uses 13VDC comparitor with GREEN coil wires. Bally uses comparitor with GRAY coil wires. If the capacitor is weak in the comparitor board , the comparitor will reject coins. Comparitor can be repaired.

[dutonP 1955]

Hi stayouttadabunker I was wondering if I could have that key45 chip and how much is it going to cost me? you had mentioned that you have it but never really needed it. that's a good thing I would like to be there also were I had something but never really needed it thanks dutonp1955.

[Stayouttadabunker]

Not for sale.
Contact member RB for chips....if not, there are other vendors on the NLG homepage or ebay.

What color are the wires on top of your coin comparitors?
They shouldn't even have the same type of header connectors either.
Take a picture of yours and post it please.

[millionaire2k]

Maybe the CC is just bad.  Maybe the rake in the CC is getting stuck or the censor in it is bad or dirty.  CC lens cleaning is part of reg maintenance.

If you follow the path for getting coins to the tray, you will see it happens ONLY at the CC.

The chute that sends coins to the tray is at the CC level and its rake rejects them by not engaging.

Nothing can send coins to the tray except from inside the CC.

The optics below the CC only counts coins that were approved already and not already rejected.  The optics is just a counter to give credits.  If the optics were bad, coins could make it to the hopper uncounted and would most likely give a coin count error.

The only thing that can divert a coin after is passes the CC is the coin divertor that sits below the optics.

The coin divertor does not send coins to the tray, it is used to send coins to the overflow storage below the slot machine.  Once the hopper is full, this will stay engaged until the hopper level goes down.  Again, this does not send coins to the tray.

If coins are falling to the tray, the CC IS the reason.

What could be the issue?  Considering you say it worked then didn't etc., my gut thinks it needs a good cleaning.

GL