Author Topic: S2000 vision msverify comm error (Read 16539 times)

therockinelvis · « **on:** December 23, 2014, 12:50:26 PM »

Feel like I should know this but getting a blank. First off I have a Frankenstein. Went from D.D. Run to Slingo. I took a 5 reel vision and changed it to a 3 reel and changed the button deck for a 3 reel set up. Game was not complete when I got it. I had to do a clear to get the reset key switch to work. Turning the key did nothing until after the clear. Then got the usual messages close door yadda yadda. Starts booting gets to waiting for the video display and takes a while before the msverify comm error instead of msverify app start. So no maiden reel spin. Are I/O cards specific for 3 reel or 5 reel? I did not replace them. The vision monitor is not working but I think game will play without monitor. The only other thing is the wba run's unusually long with different noises than normal.

cowboygames · « **Reply #1 on:** December 23, 2014, 01:44:22 PM »

I could be wrong but I thought msverify was the "handshake" between the MPU and the top box software on vision and reel touch games. If that's true then the top box cpu would need to be working

therockinelvis · « **Reply #2 on:** December 23, 2014, 02:42:32 PM »

very possible. I'll have to pull a working monitor to try.

cowboygames · « **Reply #3 on:** December 23, 2014, 03:09:45 PM »

I thought of that because I've never seen that msverify pop up except on those type games

therockinelvis · « **Reply #4 on:** December 27, 2014, 06:18:49 AM »

Installed a working monitor and it showed initializing but did not go through any of the dots for rfa, ata, and bgm files. Then came the original msverify comm error, I noticed that the backplane is a 960 mother board. All my other Visions have a 960 stepper/video mother board. This machine was a 5 reel Vision to begin with and I changed it to 3 reel.

idesign · « **Reply #5 on:** December 27, 2014, 06:58:45 AM »

It's been awhile but I recall having the same problem some time ago and I had to change the door I/O card out to the standard 3 reel standard button deck type. The 5 reel button deck type didn't work in a 3 reel for me.

Stayouttadabunker · « **Reply #6 on:** December 27, 2014, 08:45:28 PM »

Usually I found the "msverify app start" displayed when BOTH the top box and machine had compatiable cards and software. In other words, you only get the "msverify comm error" when something's not right. Idesign may have pointed out correctly about using the 3-reel I/O cards rather than the 5-reel ones.

I'm not nearby my S2000 to swap different I/O's to verify that but it's certainly worth a try and won't hurt.

Cowboy is right about the "handshake" meaning everything needing to be working in order to get it working correctly - the machine may be "sensing" wrong I/O boards....or something else.

If you can post software that's presently installed, maybe we can try to verify if you're using the correct software for the game?

I'd like to add that there are some Vision videos I posted on youtube under Statouttadabunker showing some boot up errors for that platform that may help you? There is also a video of a Vision booting up correctly that may help help as well...that particular one showed how long each sequence took during the boot up of a popular Vision game.

I will try to post a link to it if you cant find it.

therockinelvis · « **Reply #7 on:** December 28, 2014, 06:05:35 AM »

Thanks Bunker. The chips, and data card work in another machine. I was able to figure out from my other machines to do away with the New Jersey version chip as it makes the machine take up to 9 minutes to boot. Most of my visions boot in 90 seconds to 120 seconds. It is supposed to come up msverify app start then reel spin and wait. Will try the I/O cards and check out your video's.

Stayouttadabunker · « **Reply #8 on:** December 29, 2014, 08:08:44 AM »

haha! Found an old video I did hooking up a keyboard to the Vision topbox computer a few Thanksgivings ago...>>>

<a href="http://youtu.be/f1v5ITvglHk" target="_blank" class="aeva_link bbc_link new_win">http://youtu.be/f1v5ITvglHk</a>

It was fun getting into the IGT Vision computer but I don't know how to use old dos commands...Lol

therockinelvis · « **Reply #9 on:** December 29, 2014, 05:29:50 PM »

Great video. Is that with the JP1 jumped? Listening to your accent, I could not put a place to it. Glad to meet you here.

Stayouttadabunker · « **Reply #10 on:** December 30, 2014, 11:58:56 AM »

Yes!

...also connected to the old keyboard jack on the circuit board!

therockinelvis · « **Reply #11 on:** January 06, 2015, 06:46:17 PM »

Having trouble finding JP1. See several others. Can you point it out for me?

Haywired · « **Reply #12 on:** January 06, 2015, 08:47:03 PM »

Elvis
Is this the JP1 you are asking about ?
http://newlifegames.net/nlg/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=15979.0;attach=42870

therockinelvis · « **Reply #13 on:** January 07, 2015, 02:39:03 AM »

Yes that is it. Next to the memory sticks and invertor. Thanks

Stayouttadabunker · « **Reply #14 on:** January 08, 2015, 09:57:57 AM »

Quote from: therockinelvis on December 29, 2014, 05:29:50 PM

Great video. Is that with the JP1 jumped? Listening to your accent, I could not put a place to it. Glad to meet you here.

Yeah...it's called the hard-of-hearing accent...Lol
Had bad ears since I was a kid...I kept hearing words differently from others I guess.

therockinelvis · « **Reply #15 on:** January 08, 2015, 11:06:20 AM »

Now that you tell me, I have a friend with the same hearing loss. I was guessing a German accent.

therockinelvis · « **Reply #16 on:** January 13, 2015, 05:51:45 PM »

OK, Guy's and Gal's. I'm waiting on a monitor, so I decided to get it up and running to get through the codes. Installed a regular triple cash SB with 363 mains. Everything was working great except I had no sound. Went into menu, checked all the wiring, changed the amp. Nothing! Then I decide to put a dead monitor in it and plugged in all cables. Bang sound. So in order to make a vision a regular S2000 you have to change the top cabinet wiring or at least have it plugged in.

idesign · « **Reply #17 on:** January 13, 2015, 06:16:32 PM »

Well, that's because the vision gets its sound from the top box monitor and the standard S2000 does not. So for S2000 conversion from vision you disconnect the top box cables since the monitor is literally dumb at that point and plug the sound system directly in the machine.

brianfink · « **Reply #18 on:** January 21, 2015, 07:58:33 PM »

I would check to make shore the wire harness with gray wires is connected to the lower power supply. I think the ribbon cable has to be plugged in to.

therockinelvis · « **Reply #19 on:** January 30, 2015, 01:51:51 PM »

OK, I checked all the harnesses and found the 3 grey wire harness not connected to the WAP. I plugged it in and still MSVERIFY COMM ERROR. Since it came from the casino unplugged maybe something is wrong with wap/ez pay. How do you check it? I see a red light on it but none of my machines has is lit.

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