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IGT repair help
« on: February 21, 2020, 03:20:38 PM »
Have not been on here in a few years...site is a little confusing :) What is the forum for IGT slot repair help? Will not boot.
ThxMIke
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Re: IGT repair help
« Reply #1 on: February 21, 2020, 05:02:20 PM »
What kinda machine do you have?

Give us some history about it before you powered it up Mike.

The more you tell us, the better we can help you.
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Re: IGT repair help
« Reply #2 on: February 21, 2020, 05:11:47 PM »
Thanks. I work on pinball machines so I know very little about slots. But I can follow directions and troubleshoot.
Ill post a pic but basically the bulbs come on and I think I hear the dollar bill acceptor making noise but game does not start. Ill post a video or pic if I can
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Re: IGT repair help
« Reply #3 on: February 21, 2020, 05:21:35 PM »
Pictures have to be under 1MB to post.  If you try to post one over the limit it will reject it and eat your message too.  You can use Youtube to post videos and post the link to it here.  Once we see what type of machine you have a mod can move this to the appropriate sections.
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Re: IGT repair help
« Reply #4 on: February 21, 2020, 05:24:43 PM »
Yep to large....made it smaller....Here is the pic...thx

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Re: IGT repair help
« Reply #5 on: February 21, 2020, 05:25:44 PM »
Just the lights come on....no led numbers that indicate its ready. Reels do not spin either.

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Re: IGT repair help
« Reply #6 on: February 21, 2020, 05:50:41 PM »
You know pinballs right?
Check the power harness from the power supply to the board on the floor.
Bad ground in one of the green wires....oxidized pins.
You'll see a white 6-pin Molex, pull it straight up and flip it around.
You'll see the overheated pin that turned the Molex brown.

Check the 3 quick-blow fuses on the PS too (6A,8A,6A top to bottom).


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Re: IGT repair help
« Reply #7 on: February 21, 2020, 05:54:50 PM »
Your machine is an IGT S+. 

Like bunker said there's a harness on the power supply that overheats and eventually oxidizes so much it doesn't make a good connection (similar to some pins).  It's a 5 or 6 pin molex connector that connects to the motherboard and usually the dark spot is on the backside where you don't see it.  Pull that connector off and take a look at it.  You can usually get it working again by cleaning it up, but replacing it will last longer.
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Re: IGT repair help
« Reply #8 on: February 21, 2020, 05:56:37 PM »
Thx!  Sorry. Newb.  I’ve replaced lots of molex on pins. Where is it located ?
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Re: IGT repair help
« Reply #9 on: February 21, 2020, 05:59:13 PM »
6-pin Molex from power supply box to board on the floor....we call it the "motherboard" but really it's a backplane board while the main cicuit board in the tray is the MPU.

Has 6 wires.
Only Molex on motherboard that has 6 pins and is white...18ga. wires I think...green and orange.

Only two Molexes on power supply coming out if the side near the floor.
Follow it to motherboard on the floor.


Give me a photo of your wires down in there and I'll draw a arrow on it if you want?
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Re: IGT repair help
« Reply #10 on: February 21, 2020, 08:07:04 PM »
Thanks. I’ll send pic Saturday
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Re: IGT repair help
« Reply #11 on: February 22, 2020, 12:28:50 PM »
Quote from: Stayouttadabunker on February 21, 2020, 05:59:13 PM
6-pin Molex from power supply box to board on the floor....we call it the "motherboard" but really it's a backplane board while the main cicuit board in the tray is the MPU.

Has 6 wires.
Only Molex on motherboard that has 6 pins and is white...18ga. wires I think...green and orange.

Only two Molexes on power supply coming out if the side near the floor.
Follow it to motherboard on the floor.


Give me a photo of your wires down in there and I'll draw a arrow on it if you want?

here it is...I reseated the 6 pin and still nothing...
read you can reseat mpu. how? I am pretty good at following directions. Checked all 3 fuses with my DMM too.
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Re: IGT repair help
« Reply #12 on: February 22, 2020, 12:56:58 PM »
looks as if you do have damage to that plug, see if the reels are snug and you can't turn them easily,  if they free wheel then the plug is more than likely the problem,  wiggle the plug and slowly move it up toward the top and see if the reels become stiff, when they do , stop and see what happens when you close the door and latch it.

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Re: IGT repair help
« Reply #13 on: February 22, 2020, 01:30:38 PM »
Thanks Jim. Wheels spin free...when I lift the plug slowly nothing from the wheels but I did hear something on the door energize so I know power is there.
MY board looks bad at the battery.
I do have a working slot...looks pretty easy to lift out this board and swap my working one?
I brushed the pins lightly.  I do have a molex crimper. If you guys think thats it I can recrimp that connector. Tight fit but I have done worse :)mike
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Re: IGT repair help
« Reply #14 on: February 22, 2020, 03:01:18 PM »
Felt daring so I swapped board in games


In my working game I noticed that 6 pin molex was rebuilt which is why it works.  When I swap Mpu from bad game I get the number 12 in left screen and the candle is blinking


In my non working game. The good Mpu does not boot.  So my guess is: recrimp connector Abdul the Mpu is bad.  Battery looks toast.  Anything else ?
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Re: IGT repair help
« Reply #15 on: February 22, 2020, 03:09:11 PM »
Bad MPU needs new battery.
Error code [12] shows that.

Bad cabinet power harness needs New Molex pins.
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Re: IGT repair help
« Reply #16 on: February 22, 2020, 06:55:56 PM »
Can someone tell me which battery to get and where?  Does it come with solder lugs   


Should I clean with white vinegar ?


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Re: IGT repair help
« Reply #17 on: February 22, 2020, 07:44:34 PM »
Here's a couple of links.

You could go this route....>>>>

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1-2-AA-1-2AA-14250-Battery-Storage-Box-Case-Holder-3-6V-With-PCB-Pin-Solder-Lead/111303130850?hash=item19ea2efee2&_trkparms=ispr%3D1&enc=AQAEAAADYBqaN5PCMK7vYZ4IULbBnkpiPzGjdWdy24bNBlJvdr2J6z674nhXrXRHEffTnPGc%2BKCtf8FqesCsGGZG%2FCtnhsMPK3YvI2Mg63WMP20BICe6DxG6pw2vm4f647FK9IN4KU%2BKVETiJfrr7cI%2BML06zobqNhCaLO5wyTgdkG%2B6GMm5lC1OJEMuDjNy4S1rzLxTSb49II05zrvfycou%2FxNZipzG2JutHAIEASwPRcu8kf7K7D1on4kLs2GnV%2Ba1OQB62%2B5TlocA9irwez3uADovVxZlwO0F2tbuwL3UdOXpO8YuwefUZXWb3150Yb5ijRHWrKCO0yVRnyhy4ZqYoqjUTa8s1Qi3IkhfCYbrUTvHveqtgJBt%2BJ9Og%2BuPwyZq3C5OF0ghUDUsypXnAQtSdyeOkcZ3AHgNL987cVFTl31a%2BjEcEyqZB4vgSEB5S6Pt9jiMJBNSOk4AE8H7v5S90uJDHRbC8jMt1VysYWAkdHoeGDJkxrAqqknA493v6mXGNA93ZPRaqOC3diBOSe7lAfDcvASOMGBsnvDoPwgUz7JhKebu9rTygwW9NcB5XR7xI1GMYmvRWKphMHwiRUzKSR6cWAgaCyed50noI0Q6HaAuxJ8gAOuUYlAxlRu9aTSqCSRo59E6otEenwrLaoiWaJv1efpAER4OYVM0O2X%2B2xK8FSMt5qJiHauBTxPmnohIFznB%2BNpZ4iwj%2Fc6x8yGxi0CF6c5q4pz8NeC55bSUShrX0MXB2ohdJGwi8s3zvV%2FcWwRRoLPRyClfBSUZfqHmYckyeuHlFSS6%2FAb%2FyRaPOupgq0cISQaNz9bi1kPWpLMKFRc6KLVeM%2BLJmCA7PmeqbH3s3LSAj0zvcSACrxlMgo4RpVgjjTOFH9eKH6ml9e75ifiGdXEl29P3tnzpI5%2FOoUzg%2F%2BaLhVALp5tsuMJY0bsJEExnz3HSduOAnqknvorNHW51fiqhoFpflsUDUqyWIW%2BjUNumQQy4k0t77ZmVT4Qmpr%2BWb%2BZG0TdwtCt632LbJaMafnj3u5gXWr5kHRETkv8oOu86Pp6ySlTqUC1jn3snDSOs10dMdTqsDyyl8iCkBTn0jV1m8lz8JO0%2BeNgo43fOBxu9Zcw7OD1m9aIhuLJpVrggDwVPD83NLy4PULrqAgYjuQ%3D%3D&checksum=1113031308506e7e75421d064a6ba391da55001d2ddb


https://www.ebay.com/itm/2-Pack-3-6V-1-2AA-Lithium-Battery-for-Varta-Tadiran-Saft-PKCell-ER14250/183845273859?hash=item2ace084103:g:~q0AAOSwQXdcx7OF

But you need to know how to use a soldering gun and watch which way is the positive side.
This guy has the same problem as you...>>>

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Re: IGT repair help
« Reply #18 on: February 22, 2020, 09:17:38 PM »
Thx. I have fixed lots of battery holders on pins. The acid on mine looks bad. Best way to clean?  White vinegar?  Can I use one of those button cell holders /batteries?  Otherwise I’ll buy the holder and battery in your link
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Re: IGT repair help
« Reply #19 on: February 22, 2020, 11:07:54 PM »
U can use button cell if U can find 3.6v cell?
I think it's 2032?
Cleaning with vinegar is okay....but they do sell Deoxit spray at automotive stores.
It's for cleaning battery posts.

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