IGT S+ Balloon Bars - trouble setting up options

[JOHN0813]

 
Just found an old IGT S+ Balloon Bars 3 coin machine in a friend's attic.....I have worked on it all day but ran into the following problems...I read this forum first but could not find the answers....Any help is appreciated...
 
Problem #1 - When I put coins into the machine it will only accept 3 at a time....the rest fall through and do not add as credits...I replaced the coin comparitor...How do I get the coins to add...??..Is it a settings issue?
 
Problem #2 - When the payline hits a winning combination...the sounds will not stop and the credits do not add. Now, I am turning the reset key to turn the sound off..but the credits are still not added...
 
Problem #3 - When I hit the white test button and close the door and turn the reset key...Numbers like 01, 02 etc appear in the Winners Paid Box and in the Credit Box...other numbers appear...I think this is how to set up the options but I am not sure....I could not find any listing of the codes and how to set-up these options....?....I do not think they are error codes?
 
Problem #4 - I removed and cleaned the Bill Acceptor...it lights internally and when the machine is turned on, it goes through the sounds of moving its gears..however...it does not light up like in the S2000 machines and it will not accept any bills??.....
 
I would appreciate any help....Also, it is a round top and the glass is missing...Does anyone have a lead on where I can purchase one...?? Thanks again...
 

[therockinelvis]

When you push the test button you need to keep the door open. Each push of the button changes the test page. When you find an option you want to change use the spin reels to change. When you push the test button twice I think you will have a 2 or 5 in the far left window. Turn the key until you get to 9 in that window. It should show 9-0 or 9-1 if it shows 9-1 the bill acceptor is turned on. If not you will need a set chip. I am not aware of S+ being able to stack credits by feeding extra coins. Usually accept max bet then all others fall thru. Snap a picture of your bill acceptor, cash can, etc.

[rickhunter]

Problem #1 - That is normal, an S+ will not accept anymore coins than allowed in a single spin.  There's a way to change that behavior, but it requires a specific SP eprom and a special set chip.  IGT calls it Euro or Montana styled credits.  Most people don't bother and just use the bill validator to add a bunch of credits.

Problem #2 - I'm not sure I understand your explanation.  If you are able to post a video of that symptom it would be easier to troubleshoot.  The reset key does not turn off the sounds, it is mainly used to clear a handpay situation (whenever the win exceeds the credit limit on the machine).  Also used during option changes, and to look at accounting and last spins information by the slot attendant.

Problem #3 If you have the door closed when you turn the reset key, the machine will go into attendant accounting mode, not able to setup any options.  All option setup must be done with the door open, and NO credits on the machine.

Problem #4 Your bill validator may not be enabled.

Which glass piece are you missing the roundtop glass or the belly glass?

[CVslots]

WTF happened??!?! I posted a almost identical response and it didnt post! Ip here I thought it was being really helpful, then POOF!, all gone! Oh well, looks like Rick addressed your issues


The machines not malfunctioning, just needs settings changed. Bottom line, we need to know your SP chip number. At that point we can provide you with the options sheet for it and guide you if needed.

[JOHN0813]

 
 
Here are some of the answers to your questions.....
 
My internal chips are SS3999 and SP1160...
 
I turned the reset key as was recommended and I got a 9 -- 0 reading in the Winners Paid Box..
 
My bill acceptor is a DBV-200-SS...
 
I need the top round glass for the balloon bars machine....
 
I hope these help...
 
Thanks for all your great advice....
 
John0813

[therockinelvis]

You will need to get a BV set chip and following the instruction turn the BV on and set denom. to 5, 10, 25, 50 or $1. Most use 25 so 4 credits for a dollar. Or you can choose five cents and get 20 credits for the same dollar inserted. With your DBV 200 you will need OLD money. So go to your bank and find a clean small head 50, 100 or whatever. Hopefully you know how to remove and insert a chip. You will take the SP chip out and insert the set chip go thru instructions then replace SP chip. Be careful not to bend the legs on the chip. In the classified section you can place a WTB for a set chip. You should get a set and clear set. But NEVER, NEVER, NEVER use the clear unless someone on here say's to.

[CVslots]

John, I will look and see about the glass you need. I know we have some Balloons and Bars, just not sure if they are round top, 16", or 9" if I find something, I will let you know. 

[JOHN0813]

 
Thanks...What about the options Sheet?.......Do I use it after the Clear Chip?
 
 

[therockinelvis]

When you do a clear, you have to set up ALL option again. Like when you win the win goes to credit not hopper pay and when you insert bill it goes to credits not hopper pay. Will have to set max. hopper pay, max. DBV limits, max. accumulated credits. A clear is usually the LAST thing you want to do as it put's machine into factory settings which are not so good for home use.

[therockinelvis]

Do you have the machine up and running now?

[rickhunter]

Here's a link to my old FAQ on how to enable DBV and various other basic S+ procedures.

http://www.newlifegames.net/spset/

[JOHN0813]

 
 
Is there a sheet or list that I can follow for the SP1160 set-up options? What do the numbers mean?
 
Thanks

[Ron (r273)]

This may help a little.

[rickhunter]

Ron beat me to it... 

[JOHN0813]

 
I am still reading the PSR and trying to understand the settings options....Is there an easier way to do it like in the S2000 machines?....It is a little confusing....I will let you know...
 
Also, does anyone have any leads on the Top Round glass for the Balloon Bars??
 
Thanks...

[therockinelvis]

Ros was looking. You can try Frank at casinoglass@aol.com 702-207-2440  there is a 16" at http://www.spininc.com/search?q=balloon+bars

[knagl]

I am still reading the PSR and trying to understand the settings options....Is there an easier way to do it like in the S2000 machines?

No.  The S+ isn't terribly user-friendly, but once you figure out how the menus work it becomes pretty easy.

Do you have the "for rookies" guide created by r273 (available here)?  If not, download that -- it will help make navigating the S+ menus a lot easier.

If you're unable to access that file due to your membership status, drop me a PM and I'll work something out for you.

[JOHN0813]

 
 
Thanks for your help....after taking several days to read through these sheets...I was able to make some changes on the machine. new fuses, new lights,....however..I still cannot enable the Bill Acceptor...I think I need to do a RAM Clear and I have a SET90 chip...Is that correct....?? I think I read that, that was the only way to get the Bill acceptor to be enabled... is that right?
 
Thanks again,
 
 

[therockinelvis]

If you do a clear you will have to reset all that you just did. Clear means clear. You need to use the set 90 chip turn machine back on push test button and 9--0 will be in window, use spin button to change to 9--1 DBV on. Next press test button again you will see 0 push spin button to get 5, 10, 25, 50 ect. push test button again. turn off machine and replace SP chip. DBV should now be enabled.

[JOHN0813]

 
I took your advice and only used the Set Chip....I have most options/things working but I have run into a problem with the Bill Validator.....The lights work....money is accepted...but instead of going into credits..the hopper turns on and the quaters are sent to the coin tray...it pays out immediately.....Does anyone know how to fix this problem/option?...I know it can be done but after reading the sheets...I can not find a solution.....Thanks in advance....