Author Topic: Alice and the enchanted mirror - no topbox (Read 9871 times)

Rane420 · « **on:** April 07, 2016, 02:42:20 PM »

Hello all,

I've seen where several people have been running Alice without a topbox. Are there any special configurations needed for it to run properly?

A couple weeks ago I tried to load it up and after configuration, it would stall out when loading the game. My assumption was there was a glitch on the card and my vendor was willing to exchange the card.

I've since seen similar behavior on my BB1 when I tried to load Griffins Gate in a cabinet without an EBB.

So, before I go thru the whole configuration progress again, I thought I'd put the question out there and save myself some headache if there is a tweak required somewhere along the way.

iramack · « **Reply #1 on:** April 07, 2016, 03:21:22 PM »

Just needs BB2 with dual monitors. I had some trouble with it when using the last/latest H13.xxx family OS version (the super quick one) for some reason it would come up, let me spin once and then it would freeze and I had to reboot. Also, it didn't like multi-denom set ups as it would crash when I tried to change it on the game screen. Repeated this several times until I decided to try the OS that is closer to what is called for on the game card.
Works fine now. I have a feeling it has to do with my JUR chip which is Columbia and my Bettor TITO system as well.[/size][size=78%]............

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Steve

Rane420 · « **Reply #2 on:** April 07, 2016, 03:51:22 PM »

Thanks! I will make sure to use the OS closest to what the game calls for. I think I have a couple of the family 13 ones as well.

Rane420 · « **Reply #3 on:** April 08, 2016, 10:34:50 AM »

Hello again, I think Alice is just playing hard to get at this point. I have both the Mad Tea Party and the Enchanted Mirrors. Both exhibit the same behavior. I can perform the clear, complete config, the load screen says it's 100% complete then the screen goes black and the game is never to be seen. I've tried OS H13.34 and OS 13.30. I've set it for single denomination only. I have the latest and greatest BIOS and the Mississippi jurisdiction chip. I can load up Little Red, Princess Bride and Giants Gold without issue.

Does anybody have any thoughts? I don't have an OLED button panel, but Rick was kind enough to confirm that Alice did not require it for me in a much earlier thread. unless maybe we differing versions of the game that doesn't seem like a likely culprit.

rickhunter · « **Reply #4 on:** April 08, 2016, 10:54:25 AM »

Same version of the game I have. Have you tried just disconnecting the top monitor from your MPU. It is the only thing I can think of.

wmsbb2owner · « **Reply #5 on:** April 13, 2016, 09:13:47 AM »

I have both Alice versions and it will run without the topbox and without the OLED. I usually turn off the top monitor because it looks funny.

Rane420 · « **Reply #6 on:** April 14, 2016, 07:32:21 PM »

Thanks guys.

I tried unplugging the top box and had no success, but something did occur to me. I did put the latest and greatest bios in while I was getting my BB2 CABINET up and going, but that was using my NXT1 that I was borrowing from my BB1. I have no clue what the best bios for a NXT2 is. I've attached a photo of what I'm running. Maybe that will be what cures me. Something has to get Alice runnin'

rickhunter · « **Reply #7 on:** April 14, 2016, 08:28:46 PM »

If the sticker is not incorrect, that is the latest bios.

Rane420 · « **Reply #8 on:** April 15, 2016, 12:42:40 AM »

Well....dang it.... I was hoping I was onto something....

Thanks Rick.

rickhunter · « **Reply #9 on:** April 15, 2016, 07:03:41 AM »

Just for kicks, do you another SJUR you can try?

Rane420 · « **Reply #10 on:** April 15, 2016, 05:13:23 PM »

I had one that wouldn't let me print. I'll have to see if I can find it. Which one would you recommend? I'm not opposed to pick one up that is known to work with Alice :-)

rickhunter · « **Reply #11 on:** April 15, 2016, 08:57:38 PM »

I know for sure it works with California Tribal.

Rane420 · « **Reply #12 on:** April 16, 2016, 11:35:27 AM »

Well, I may have to see if I can round up a CA tribal chip. I found my NV juris chip, but that didn't work the magic I'd hoped it might.

In case anybody has some paint drying and would like marginally better viewing, I made a YouTube video of my machine not loading Alice. :-)

I stopped the video when the screen went black as nothing happens after that. I've left it that way for an hour or more with no change except it seems like eventually the top screen will go blank as well.

https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.youtube.com_watch-3Fv-3Di37EBUMuSrA&d=CwICAg&c=Iej4I5bEYPmgv5l2sS6i8A&r=VuerhJnm7Hts4ykwJZEtB9azq9ZG9_WoMGpdWAKggMU&m=J9pNUdF0bAXwS11YMfSfoDDU0DLq8JU-yIMcDKpgN2o&s=oDXZbwYkU4FFT0eUcBb_XV0xI-CuWwW5tRVV8D2bHsI&e=

idesign · « **Reply #13 on:** April 16, 2016, 12:34:28 PM »

When the bottom screen goes black, if you turn the key do you get a blue screen with error messages or does it stay black.

Rane420 · « **Reply #14 on:** April 16, 2016, 05:13:05 PM »

I'll have to confirm it, but I'm pretty sure the key and diagnostic button had no effect. I'll load it up again tomorrow to double check, but once it goes black I couldn't get any response from the machine with anything I tried.

wmsbb2owner · « **Reply #15 on:** April 16, 2016, 05:14:35 PM »

Has the game ever loaded? Maybe it's the game itself.

Rane420 · « **Reply #16 on:** April 16, 2016, 05:21:30 PM »

I have both the Alice games each from separate vendors and even sent the first one I got back thinking the same thing and was provided a replacement. It's really strange. I've loaded Lil' Red, The Princess Bride, Giants Gold, Goldfish 2 and Jungle Wild all without incident.

wmsbb2owner · « **Reply #17 on:** April 16, 2016, 05:24:49 PM »

I loaded mine up today while watching your video and mine zips right through the config yours hangs at the end which is odd. Hopefully you can figure it out

Rane420 · « **Reply #18 on:** April 16, 2016, 05:47:24 PM »

Thank you for checking it out. I certainly appreciate the comparison. I might try finding someone locally with a BB2 cabinet willing to let me see if my MPU will bring it up in their machine and if not confirm the games work for them. That would at least start to narrow down the possibilities. I thought about trying it in my BB1 but am not sure that would end up telling me anything or not. Might just tell me I did a bad job forcing me BB1 to meet the minimum NXT2 requirements :-)

Neonkiss · « **Reply #19 on:** April 17, 2016, 05:21:47 AM »

Silly question, but I have to ask.
Why did you select NO Printer when you clearly have one. and why did you not select and validation. ??

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