Author Topic: IGT Double Diamond Dead (Read 18115 times)

hornetgod13 · « **on:** September 17, 2015, 02:15:06 PM »

My 1988 Double Diamond IGT S2000 Model # 5136A is near death and I hope I can get some technical advice to see if its worth saving. I acquired it in its current condition for next to nothing.

When plugged in it hums but, no lights, or reel action occurs. The service light inside and can be turned on but, that's about it. The black and white wires going to the door switch have been cut and another set of black and white wires have also been cut in the same area but, I can't seem to find what they go to.

Could the cut wires affect the game powering up or could they have been bypassed by a previous owner? Not sure if I should start with a mother board, power supply or a trip to the dump.

Can it be saved or should I cut my losses?

rickhunter · « **Reply #1 on:** September 17, 2015, 02:23:13 PM »

It is not an S2000, it is an early model S+. When you power up, do the reels feel stiff when you try to spin them?

hornetgod13 · « **Reply #2 on:** September 17, 2015, 02:36:16 PM »

The model description says "Stepper Slot". I have another slot machine that is S+ and the inside looks different. I thought this was a S2000. I'm learning.

I powered it up just now and checked the reels. They are free spinning. The hum more like a pulsing whine every couple seconds.

Shaggy · « **Reply #3 on:** September 17, 2015, 02:53:12 PM »

With the machine off, pull the mpu up and out and check the battery. Got to start somewhere.

rokgpsman · « **Reply #4 on:** September 17, 2015, 03:00:52 PM »

Quote from: hornetgod13 on September 17, 2015, 02:36:16 PM

The model description says "Stepper Slot". I have another slot machine that is S+ and the inside looks different. I thought this was a S2000. I'm learning......

Do your machine fluorescent lights come on? If not that is pretty basic, check all fuses and lighting starters. There is a power supply that makes the other voltages needed. But usually at least the general fluorescent lighting works. Usually there are fluorescent bulbs behind the lower glass, the upper glass and a smaller one inside the door to light the reels.

Pushbutton bulbs are lit by lower voltage from power supply. Maybe you can narrow down where the hum is coming from. Might be a good idea to show us some photos of the inside of the machine, someone may have removed an important part that is causing your problem, such as power supply, mpu board, motherboard, lighting ballast box, etc.

The IGT S and S+ models are similar but they have their differences. The S+ was made for several years and the later ones look somewhat different than the earlier ones.

All reel type slot machines (vs video screen) for some time have been "stepper slots". That just refers to the stepper motor that rotates the spinning reel. It actually moves the reel in small steps, many steps quickly one after the other to give the appearance of continuous movement.

The easiest way for me to tell if it is an S2000 is they have speakers mounted very visibly on each side of the outer corners of the machine, see below.

buybestslots · « **Reply #5 on:** September 17, 2015, 04:03:50 PM »

also they didn't make s2000 in 1988

rickhunter · « **Reply #6 on:** September 17, 2015, 05:02:21 PM »

Not all S2000's have the ears. The easy way to tell for me is the VFD display on the bottom left side of the reel glass.

mvco · « **Reply #7 on:** September 17, 2015, 05:15:49 PM »

The OP mentions a 1988 model year. I am thinking this could possibly be a model S, not S-Plus. Another hint was when he mentions turning on a service light inside. The old S model had a switched service light in the cabinet, S-Plus did not.

Interior photo would tell the story. Easier to help when we can be certain as to what you have. the oldest S-Plus I have geard of was made in 1989, a year later than yours.

Shaggy · « **Reply #8 on:** September 17, 2015, 06:30:57 PM »

I have an old style S+ that doesn't have a manufacture date on the tag. How do you date them then?

Dave

rokgpsman · « **Reply #9 on:** September 17, 2015, 06:41:40 PM »

Quote from: rickhunter on September 17, 2015, 05:02:21 PM

Not all S2000's have the ears. The easy way to tell for me is the VFD display on the bottom left side of the reel glass.

Whoa, thanks for the clarification, I thought all S2000's had the "ear" speakers.

cowboygames · « **Reply #10 on:** September 17, 2015, 07:01:42 PM »

The vision ready cabinets had speakers in the same place, but they were flat and flush with the cabinet

buybestslots · « **Reply #11 on:** September 18, 2015, 05:23:47 AM »

look mom no ears

hornetgod13 · « **Reply #12 on:** September 18, 2015, 06:49:27 AM »

I took some detailed pictures of the inside of the slot machine and discover a few more disturbing things. More cut wires and what appears to be one or two missing parts. I'll post the pictures and you let me know what its missing.

hornetgod13 · « **Reply #13 on:** September 18, 2015, 06:55:33 AM »

Here are more pictures of with the hopper removed, cut wires, and the top end. Missing parts, cut wires and unused connectors.....

hornetgod13 · « **Reply #14 on:** September 18, 2015, 07:01:25 AM »

A few more pictures of the wires. I'm not sure where any of them go or even what parts are missing. Does anyone have a link to a wire diagram of this model?
Do you think the missing parts can be sourced and is it worth saving?

hornetgod13 · « **Reply #15 on:** September 18, 2015, 07:29:31 AM »

I should have done more homework before buying this one. I wanted to save some money and I like the challenge of fixing things. When I discovered the ad on craigslist, I thought this might be a good deal. It was listed as not working but, the seller had said it was just running last week. He had it listed for $175 but, I talked him down to $70. Below is a text response I received from him when I asked if it was available and the working condition.

"Yes it's available. We have keys, and it takes quarters. But we were playing it the other day and after we hit the jackpot the machine paid out the small amount of quarters we had in it and then we pushed the credit button, the machine shut off and hasn't powered back on. It may be a fuse or the back up battery. We know nothing about slot machines, but it did work well prior to this. Hopefully it's an easy fix if your still interested we can negotiate the price and possibly even deliver it to if needed. It is quite heavy."

Seeing the missing parts and cut wires makes me mad that he outright lied to me. Almost makes me want to drive to his house and chuck it out on his lawn. The better part of me hopes it can be saved. I just don't want to spend more than it would cost to buy another matching one that works.

I also have a working 1989 IGT S+ Double Diamond Deluxe to comfort me for now.

rokgpsman · « **Reply #16 on:** September 18, 2015, 07:40:54 AM »

It's possible that some of the wires and connectors go to things not needed for the machine to work. For example, there is usually a cable that goes from the machine down into the slot stand to sense the stand's door lock, that's where the casino keeps the overflow bucket for coins when the hopper gets full. For home use that cable is usually coiled up or cut off. And there is usually a player tracking panel above the spinning wheels in the top cabinet where you insert your player's slot card, the casino often removes that panel and the tracking equipment but leaves the disconnected wires that did connect to all that. And if the machine was originally part of a progressive jackpot there would be loose wires that connected to that removed equipment.

So I'd wait to see what the experts here that are familiar with your model of machine have to say, it might not be as bad as it looks right now.

With that said, it is always best to open the machine and look inside before handing over the money, especially since the seller said they had the keys. At worst, for $70 you got some parts that can be used on other similar IGT models. I'd think the glass, reels, strips and other assemblies would be worth that much.

I couldn't tell for sure from the photos, did you find the mpu board (main processor board) in the lower cabinet behind or on the wall near hopper area? It will be mounted to a large squarish metal plate, often has a black pull knob on top.

Shaggy · « **Reply #17 on:** September 18, 2015, 09:01:31 AM »

MVCO I think you are right. That looks like an S slot not an S+.

Dave

rickhunter · « **Reply #18 on:** September 18, 2015, 10:24:41 AM »

It is an S slot. Most of the time the cut wires and such are for player tracking and casino back end hardware that is removed before it is sold. I would check fuses to see if they are not blown.

hornetgod13 · « **Reply #19 on:** September 18, 2015, 10:27:30 AM »

I checked the fuses and they looked good. A lot of bulbs were removed but I have replacements. Should I just replace the fuses even though they look good?

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