Bluebird 3 Questions ?

[mr2bob]

Hello,
I see a lot of BB3 software selling but I have never seen a BB3 machine for sale. Are people just converting BB2s to BB3s? What am I missing? Also if they are, a lot of BB3s use 32inch top screens, what are they doing for that upper screen. Maybe someone can do a BB3 primer since that seems to be were we are at as far as the latest used (home) WMS machines are at. If this has been already addressed I am sorry I did a search and didn't find much.
Thanks in advance,
Bob

[rickhunter]

Most bb3 games are just dual screen 22 inch bb3 "blade" games.  The blade cabinets are very expensive at the moment, they are available if you are willing to pay, but they rarely show up for sale since it is a current platform.  Most of us have converted bb2 cabinets to play the bb3 games.  It is not all that difficult and it involves getting a cpunxt3.2 mpu, a power harness, and the emotive controller (for the blade games that require it).  There's even a person here who has done a bb1 to bb3 conversion.

As far as the 32 in tops, they are really only used on the licensed titles.  The games will play on a 22 inch top, it will just have the top screen "sideways", but the game will play.  Some people here have taken the task of mounting a 32" monitor on top.  You will even see see 32" dedicated bezels up for sale (there's currently a Willy Wonka Chocoloate factory one on e-bay right now). 

[mr2bob]

Thanks Rick.... I thought it might be something along those lines. One more question: Are most BB2 games compatible on the BB3 platform? So if I convert my BB2 to BB3, can I still play BB2 games?
Thanks again,
Bob

[johnnybgood1]

Rick, where is the Wonka topper you speak of?  I looked on ebay and didn't see it. 

In regards to titles playing on BB2/BB3.  BB2 titles only play on BB2 machines (NTX-2).  BB3 Titles only play on BB3 (NTX-3).  As far as replacing a NTX-3 CPU on a BB3 cabinet with a NXT-2, I couldn't tell you.  Rick or someone probably knows.

I happen to know where there are 2 BB3 cabinets for sale right now and they are 11K each.  Insanity if you ask me.

[777sizzler]

Just a question,  But Who in the Hell want's to twist their head side-ways just to play a game!  Not me,  That's why I use the REAL stuff.  Did not mean to rant-Just saying-

[johnnybgood1]

 

Exactly!  It really downgrades the experience.  Sorry everyone but, it costs money to do it right. 

[mr2bob]

"BB3 Titles only play on BB3 (NTX-3).  As far as replacing a NTX-3 CPU on a BB3 cabinet with a NXT-2"

The other way around...Playing BB2 on BB3, if I was to upgrade my BB2 to a BB3 CPU. Looks like I can live with my BB2 a while longer. Still having a great time playing BB2 games. [size=78%]$11k would buy 2 or 3 complete BB2 machines.[/size]

I was just curious about who was buying all that BB3 software.

Bob

[777sizzler]

Not to be rude,  But the same folk's that can use it and have the proper equipment to make it work the way it should.  There is all kinds of fooler sheet out there, Nothing beats the real thing-Just expensive. 

[johnnybgood1]

I don't think anyone or very few are buying BB3 titles.  I don't see the advantage in most cases.  Only a few games I am interested in playing on BB3 and those are Wonka titles which I will play on my BB2 machine with an NXT-3

Just picked  this up today.

[mr2bob]

To summarize :
BB2 Games on the BB2 platform (NTX-2)
BB3 Games on the BB3 platform (NTX-3)


A limited number of BB3 machines are available but are expensive ($11k)
Most people buying and playing BB3 games at this time are playing them on converted BB2 machines to BB3, which is not really difficult to convert.
You can use the 22" top monitor on these converted BB3 machines but it will display sideways. Some people have installed a vertical 32" monitor to replace the top 22".


Some people think using the 22" monitor to play BB3 games suck and some don't.
Thanks to everyone who replied .....
Bob

[Blueridgeslots]

I believe BB3 is being confused as a Blade Cabinet, the BB3 is just being used as slang for the CPU-NXT3 CPU as well as a Blade Cabinet, yes we all do it, however there are many different Cabinet Configurations from WMS that used the CPU-NXT3 CPU


BB2 Cabinet and BB2e Cabinet - Original one used (before Blades were released) and were lease themes, mostly with Top Boxes and the 32" vertical lcd, only a few themes were on the non emotive cabinets (Conversion to CPU-NXT3) Some newer Top Boxes use a 42" Curved Vertical lcd

XD- Slant - Was also with Meta Screen Top Monitors (Conversion to CPU-NXT3)
 
Blade Cabinet (Both Video and Stepper)

GamesfieldXD - Lease Themes and uses 2 Vertical 32" Monitors and No standard type Button Panel

Blade S-23 Hybrid Slant Top Dual 23" Monitors

Blade S-32 Slant Dual 32" Monitors and Tablet for button panel


There are many awesome BB-3 Themes, many lease but several are not. And believe me, many people already have the CPU-NXT3 Platform in home use


And a BB2 converted to CPU-NXT3 can easily be had for under half what the quoted price was for a Blade

[mr2bob]

Thanks Blueridgeslots,
That is what I was looking for..... I thought there might be several BB3 based platforms using the NTX-3 CPU, great list. Now I see why so much BB3 based software is being sold without seeing very few machines for sell. I was just curious.
Take care,
Bob

[iramack]

Just for more clarity..............

Will a properly converted BB2 cabinet (with nxt3 and emotive board) and the existing monitors run all the BB3 software (blade or otherwise) that is available on the secondary market??

Thanks.

SM

[Blueridgeslots]

Just for more clarity..............

Will a properly converted BB2 cabinet (with nxt3 and emotive board) and the existing monitors run all the BB3 software (blade or otherwise) that is available on the secondary market??

Thanks.

SM

If you mean core Blade Games, Yes (Usually) with correct type monitors (Like Ceronix or Wells) needs DVI on Top


If you mean some Boogie BS monitors from 2 different games, well crap shoot


If you are talking about regular core themes, Yes.. Games that need Vertical 32 or 42 Monitors but you want to play on a 22,  try it for yourself


I say usually because someone always trys' to put a square in a round hole


Some older Juris. chips do not support all newer OS, so if you are a guy who HAS to have the latest to think game plays different then update everything, there are newer versions of Juris always




If you mean EVERY theme you see for sale.... Not NO but HELL NO... Do your research or buy from someone who guarantees it to work, not the cheapest guy or dude you heard has some stuff