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Bally Electromechanical / Re: Bally 809-N
« Last post by wolftalk on Today at 12:37:53 PM »
Do you know when the bell is suppose to sound? on all pays or just jackpot?

that was one of the differences between the various 809 models.  Different customers wanted more or less noise.

you have a common problem ... your model/serial number plate says 809-N, but you have a service button on the door.  The 809-N did not have a service button (according to the schematic).   You could have anything from a replacement door bezel to it being a different machine with the serial number plate swapped on.

the service button would just turn on a lamp on the light tower poking up from the top of the machine.   If your door button is wired, look at the wire colors and look for a terminal block in the top compartment where the wires from the tower attach.  See if you can figure out the wiring based on the colors, or if necessary use a meter to verify.

an 809-N rang the bell on a 777 or whenever the bar jackpot relay powers.  The bar jackpot relay powers when you have three matching bar symbols.

the bell actually would stay ringing as long as the reels stayed on matching symbols, so if the player walked away, eventually I assume someone had to come by and shoot the machine to shut it up ... or at least drop in a coin to disconnect the pay circuit.   

most machines would only ring the bell for the duration of the payout for non-jackpot wins - it would be easy to change the behavior of the 809-N to that mode by changing a wire on a bar jackpot relay switch.
 
you can test the circuits with jumper wires or a voltmeter.  Have a preference?  You usually need a couple jumper wires (alligator clip test leads) when using the meter since you often want to check voltages with the units inside the machine, so clipping the lead onto something and hanging the other end out the front to attach to the meter is the easiest way to check voltages.
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Ask for the top glass picture.  At least we will know how many coins it is.
It looks to be a custom theme for that casino

Thanks,
Wayne
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here is other information , tnx ALI
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Bally Electromechanical / Re: bally 1090
« Last post by wolftalk on Today at 12:16:11 PM »
a single point of failure for all the low pays is the "open at 50" carriage switch on the payout counter.

that switch is on the wiper side of the unit and has a grey/yellow wire on one of the blades.  It's vertical and in the lower-left corner of the unit.  The mating blade connects to the F trace.  That switch should open after 50 or so steps of the unit.  Since it's the carriage pushing the blades, the exact step the switch opens will be +/- a few steps due to slop in the carriage movement.

the schem for the 1090-37 is on https://bingo.cdyn.com/slots/

if you can post pictures of the payout counter, that's be great.  Most 1090's do not have the carriage switch.  If size is an issue, email highest possible resolution pics of whatever you like to slotpics@cdyn.com and I'll add them to the above.  Pics of entire game front and the internals are always helpful.
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You know Lookes can repair them for you. Then have 5 good boards for the future
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WMS Williams Video / Re: BB3 Games
« Last post by sccarlso on Today at 09:29:39 AM »
I've been trying to get the regular Ironman game to work on my BB3.  Driving me nuts for days!  Willy Wonka plays perfectly so video and other components are fine.

Since it's a Gamefield title, the original machine of course needs the 32" lower touchpanel.   Have one on order (well, backordered), but the guy I bought the game from was able to get it to load and play on his upgraded BB2 without the gamefield touch panel just fine.  Which is REALLY confusing...

It's jumpered, and I confirmed my cabinet is being detected as a gamefield xD.  Wondering if the cabinet type is the issue, and it needs to be set to a different cabinet type for Ironman to run on it without the 32” gamefield touchscreen present & only the OEM BB2 touchscreen being detected & initialized.

I connected two 32” 1920x1080 displays and I can load the game fine, no tilts, goes to the initial setup screen.  I have to leave the BB2's 22" OEM touchscreen connected, no video, just the touchscreen connected. Otherwise it halts for no touchscreen detected.  And the touchscreen is only needed to complete initial setup of the machine.

But once I reach the initial setup screen after loading.  If I just tap the blank touchscreen, it immediately core dumps with “couldn’t compile keymap” and “cannot find mode 1920x1080”.

My guess is the game itself doesn’t like the BB2s OEM touchscreen for not having a 1920x1080 keymap as it’s a different resolution.  I don’t think the OEM BB2 touchscreen has a 1920x1080 keymap, so I think once the Ironman game is loaded, when it gets feedback from the touchscreen…and it doesn't see a keymapping for 1920x1080 size, that makes it crash. 

But since his works fine like this, with two 32" displays and just the BB2's 22" OEM touch controller connected, there must be something else set on his machine so it works on his.  Perhaps a different cabinet jumper configuration in place?  Or an EDID detective box on the display cable?  Once initial setup is done, while he can't make the proper touches on one of the bonuses without a 32" touch screen so it's hung, he can use the OLED panel to bet and spin, as well as get past any of the other bonuses without the 32" touchscreen and just two 32" 1080 displays.

Thanks in advance!  Any suggestions or ideas are totally welcome!  I'll try anything!  My bet is on a different cabinet type but I've tried all sorts of combinations.  Maybe just not the correct combination!  Some of them just make the primary display garbled.  But with any cabinet setting I've tried, just touching the BB2 touchscreen always crashes it with the same error after the game is loaded.   Don't know of anything else I can set with the BB2's OEM touchscreen still connected so it doesn't halt for no touch panel found, yet won't crash the game when it is connected!  lol

I'd be happy even if it displays sideways just to see it functional until I get the actual 32" touch screen.

Hi, have you made progress on this? I have a new NXT3.2 conversion with the Gorilla Chief II game, and it has the exact same behavior, touch the touch screen at setup and it crashes. I have not made any changes to the cabinet ID (I expected a proper error if this is the issue) nor do I have any scaler attached.

TIA, Steve

None at all unfortunately.   Various cabinet IDs.  But if I load only a 19.x OS with no game, it doesn’t crash when the touchscreen is touched.  The cabinet type shows Gamefield xD.   Yet both displays remain horizontal when they should both format vertical.

So the touchscreen crash is limited to something specific to OS 18.X

I have been able to get at least the top screen to display vertical with trial and error on grounding J10 pins.  So there must be a “correct” combination of jumpers on both J10 & J14 to get both to display vertical.   I’ve just not found it yet. 

Hoping someone might know exactly which jumpers will result in both displays being sideways…

If I can get them to do that.  I think it’ll be good on the displays.

The touch reboot is a mystery.  Plus It displaying “AMD Unsupported Hardware” on the corner of the screens.  I have an E6760 video card and only the less powerful E4690 had recalls on it.  Would like to know what causes that unsupported on the screen.  Doesn’t seem logical that it needs the slower E4690 card.  But I’m told it shouldn’t cause problems.

I’d try an E4690 if I could get my hands on one.   Would rule things in or out as issues!

But I don’t think the video & touchscreen crash are related.

My true, brand new OEM 32” Gamefield screen from Ceronix should arrive tomorrow.

So I’ll be able to see if it has to do with the actual EDID sent by the screen.  And also see how having the USB touchscreen instead of the BB2 serial touchscreen connected takes care of the touchscreen crash issue.   The Gamefield also only has two small oled buttons on each side.  Would like to get them if I had a part number or what they’re called on a Gamefield machine. But others that got it working had no problems with the regular oled button deck. 

If anyone has insight on a Gamefield setup that would be so helpful! 

Will post what happens with the real GF display/touchscreen hooked up!

Just hoping that in itself clears the issues.  Fingers crossed!


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Bally Reel Games / Re: Bally 6000 sound board question
« Last post by shortrackskater on Today at 08:57:01 AM »
I sent a PM to all THREE board moderators yesterday... hoping one or more will reply here for you.  :yes:
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I called Jim yesterday and he doesn't have any of this type of head to offer. He thinks it will be hard to find any but I am continuing to look around. if anyone in the forum has any to offer I am definitely interested.

Thanks for your assistance with this!  :thank_you:
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Bally Electromechanical / Re: Bally 809-N
« Last post by caneer on Today at 07:46:07 AM »
Yes it is the solenoid.  Do you know when the bell is suppose to sound? on all pays or just jackpot?
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