Author Topic: Powering up a Bally S5500 thatâ€™s been in storage (Read 2858 times)

Stangman · « **on:** October 19, 2019, 04:09:58 AM »

I Got a Bally S5500 that has been in storage. Powered it up and got the low battery error code 81. Replaced battery and now get a safe ram error code 83F. Tried clearing the sram using the j10 jumper and holding the buttons on the mpu board but got no other messages on the display other then the 83f code. Took a look at the chip set series and they are the 95000 series that I believe need the clear set chips to clear the sram. I found a set of leave in clear chips on EBay and am waiting on them to arrive. I am new to this and have a couple of questions.
After I install the clear chips, what level of clear should I try first?
Do I have to setup the machine in anyway after the reset?
It is a California Dreaming themed machine, does it retain the correct game settings after a reset?
Thanks for the help in advance.

Badbaud · « **Reply #1 on:** October 19, 2019, 08:52:14 AM »

Leave in clears only work with the S6000, newer (4X) supervisory chips would work U3, U4, etc.
BUT try removing the RAM chips and swapping them top to bottom, bottom to top and try clearing with the jumper again.
See attached.

Stangman · « **Reply #2 on:** October 19, 2019, 10:23:13 AM »

Thanks, the chip I have coming are U-3, U-4, U-12, U-15 leave in chips. I am hoping they will work. Here is a picture of the cpu board that I have. I believe that the machine is a S5500 ProSlot. The Model number says s63m3ct-10. I have read that the jumper j10 does not work with the se95000 chip set? Could you please be more specific on what chips to move around and swap? U3 with U4 and U12 with U15...
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Stangman · « **Reply #3 on:** October 19, 2019, 10:29:39 AM »

Another picture of the cpu board I have. What chips are the ram chips?

Badbaud · « **Reply #4 on:** October 19, 2019, 04:23:16 PM »

The RAM's are U67 and U68.

Stangman · « **Reply #5 on:** October 20, 2019, 12:46:11 PM »

Thanks, I did not swap the ram chips, but did re- seat the ram chips in the sockets. Still have the 83f error and not able to do a safe ram clear. Will wait on the clear chips and give that a try.

DirtinLa · « **Reply #6 on:** October 22, 2019, 07:58:45 AM »

Greetings,

First things first. The 83F code is a dead battery code. I am attaching a pic of the battery location. Its a simple fix. Hope you have an amazon or eBay account LOL

Replace Battery on board with a battery holder. Very simple solder in place holder:

Amazon [size=78%]https://www.amazon.com/uxcell-Plastic-Button-Battery-Sockets/dp/B00TX2Y3J0/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=3.6V+Battery+Holder&qid=1571752466&s=electronics&sr=1-3[/size]

or eBay [size=78%]https://www.ebay.com/itm/1-2AA-14250-Battery-Storage-Clip-Box-Case-Holder-3-6V-With-PCB-Pin-Solder-L6Z2/223478028877?hash=item3408541a4d:g:biQAAOSwwb1brqD~[/size]

Get the battery at the same time

https://www.amazon.com/SAFT-LS-14250-Lithium-Battery-ORIGINAL/dp/B01N5ORNBS/ref=sr_1_8?keywords=3.6V+Battery+14250&qid=1571754488&refinements=p_85%3A2470955011&rnid=2470954011&rps=1&s=electronics&sr=1-8

3.6V 14250 Lithium Battery

You can also accomplish this with standard AA or AAA but they do not last

Once battery is replaced you need to do a reset/clear . Your 95000 chips do NOT require additional reset/clear chips.

Turn off the machine. Pull the main board. See the attached pic of Jumper

simply move the jumper onto both pins put the board back in and be certain it seats all the way.

Hold the test and pseudo coin buttons in while you turn on the machine.

In the pay window you will see a Ch C followed by a CL C turn off the machine

Pull the board and put the jumper back on one pin

Fire the machine up and you should be good to go!

Good luck and let everyone know if you are up and running please.

-=Fred=-

Stangman · « **Reply #7 on:** October 22, 2019, 08:58:15 AM »

Thanks Fred, but if you read my post, I have already replaced the dead battery and tried the MPU board jumper and full clear. I am never seeing anything but the 83f error code even when trying the safe ram reset holding the buttons in during power up. I have read in multiple thread that the 95000 series will require the clear chip reset to clear the dead battery error. I have these on order and will try it out and let you know if it resolves the issue.
Thanks again,
Mark

DirtinLa · « **Reply #8 on:** October 22, 2019, 09:26:31 AM »

Ok, I just did my 95000 chips without a chip change... once again the 83f = 83F = SafeRAMâ„¢ Format Error SafeRAMâ„¢ formatting has been lost due to bad RAM IC, a dead battery, or if ROM has changed. (A complete SafeRAMâ„¢ Clear is required.)

#1 did you check the battery voltage once installed?

#2 is the battery installed in the correct direction + -
#3 what is the payout reading once you hold the reset pseudo coin in .... those buttons aren't used very often, press hard OR ohm them to make cerain they're working

These are just suggestions

Stangman · « **Reply #9 on:** October 22, 2019, 10:05:11 AM »

Hey Fred, so I do have the battery in the right polarity. I was a electronics technician in the Navy doing circuit board repairs so I do have a bit of knowledge base. It did read 3.58 volts. I had another battery I had also bought and it was reading 3.62 volts so I installed it. I had not tested the continuity of the test and pseudo buttons so I used my ohm meter and they both tested fine. I have never gotten anything other than the 83f in the message field other that the 81 low battery error which disappeared after the battery replacement. I never see a CH C displayed while holding down the buttons during power up. If the clear chips wonâ€™t work I may have to get the board sent out for repair.
Thanks again,
Mark

DirtinLa · « **Reply #10 on:** October 22, 2019, 10:29:32 AM »

Awesome, sounds like you did and are doing everything correctly.

Please be kind and post your final outcome and what it took to fix it.

Have you checked your power supply voltages... a whole lot cheaper than a new board?

Those power supplies can disable any number of things.

http://newlifegames.com/nlg/index.php?topic=25856.0

http://newlifegames.com/nlg/index.php?topic=14397.0

BTW I apprreciate your service and not just spewing words as me and my family have all served too

Stangman · « **Reply #11 on:** October 22, 2019, 01:43:01 PM »

Thanks again for the additional information. I am going to order the $15 power supply off Amazon - Mean Well part number is PT-65B. I will probably need it at some point. I am getting power to the MPU board because it responds to pressing the reset button. Turns on the red led momentarily and hear a change in the speaker hum. What does the reset suppose to do anyways? I also found a tag inside that says â€œWarning sector lock chip installed. Notify TSM upon all repairs. Do not remove chipâ€. Any ideas on what this may mean. Thanks again. BTW: It was a pleasure and honor to serve in the the US Military, some of the best people in the world. Thanks for your familyâ€™s service also.
Mark

Badbaud · « **Reply #12 on:** October 22, 2019, 01:59:07 PM »

Air Force here, did you check to make sure the battery voltage is reaching both RAM chips?
Lower left of chip is (-), upper right is (+) of your DC meter.
Is JW12 jumper in place?

Stangman · « **Reply #13 on:** October 22, 2019, 02:04:39 PM »

Removed the power supply and it appears that it had been replaced sometime after 2003 as it has a date code on it. What is the best way to test the supply out for proper voltages? I get the new one tomorrow, I may just swap it out anyways.
Mark

Stangman · « **Reply #14 on:** October 22, 2019, 02:13:18 PM »

Ram chips U67 and U68 both have 3.44 volts on the pins mentioned and jumper was in place. Worked with a lot of Air Force guys during my 30 years with a defense company. Dedicated bunch of people.
Mark

Stangman · « **Reply #15 on:** October 22, 2019, 02:44:35 PM »

Sorry, I was not logged in so did not see the power supply testing procedures bad baud had provided. Will check voltages soon.
Mark

DirtinLa · « **Reply #16 on:** October 22, 2019, 03:04:19 PM »

p/s testing

http://newlifegames.com/nlg/index.php?topic=14397.0

http://newlifegames.com/nlg/index.php?topic=3653.0

Sunrise Side · « **Reply #17 on:** October 22, 2019, 08:03:27 PM »

On the PS, I highly recommend installing the new unit. You will most likely find the 5 volts needs bumped up on the new unit.

Badbaud · « **Reply #18 on:** October 22, 2019, 08:06:40 PM »

Bally recommends 5.16V

Stangman · « **Reply #19 on:** October 23, 2019, 04:44:17 AM »

Any ideas on what this tag means?

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